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RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 03, 2013

I did, there isn't one NIB or in fact, mint Takara Uncertain


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - LMAO - Jun. 03, 2013

Is this it?

http://www.google.ca/search?um=1&client=safari&hl=en&biw=768&bih=928&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=9_6rUeXWK8HyyAGOvYCgBA&q=ultimate+dragoon+nib&oq=ultimate+dragoon+nib&gs_l=img.3...7747.8777.0.8915.4.4.0.0.0.0.216.448.3j0j1.4.0...0.0...1c.1.15.img.LfWJrHVpElo#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7CEB6ZSJ0x6dn8vM%3A

Sorry, I'm not very familiar with plastics, but all you needed to do was go on Google Images and search "Ultimate Dragoon NIB"


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 03, 2013

I particularly thought originally it was in a bag, but thanks!


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - umbrulla - Jun. 03, 2013

About 3 years ago i was doing some landscaping, pulling out truckloads of old dead roots. And behold, this old Plastic was buried 2 feet underground, caked in dirt.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/Umbrulla/DSCF2793.jpg

So being retired plastic blader i am, i had to take it apart and give it some TLC.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/Umbrulla/DSCF2790.jpg

So at first i thought this might be a Galzzly, however Ive never seen one in this color, and it has an extra red plastic ring, making it 6 layers? so I'm content to think it might be a custom or something I'm not quite sure?

But what I'm actually wondering about is the spin gear i found inside, its quite strange, on the top i can almost see what looks like an LED inside.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/Umbrulla/DSCF2791.jpg

And on the bottom, what looks like a computer chip of some sort?
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/Umbrulla/DSCF2792.jpg

It doesn't have the star shaped bottom that I'm familiar with, and its not a regular spin gear because its quite tall, i cant take it apart, and lacks a R or L on the side, so i cant tell if its a right or left spin so i don't know what launcher machine to buy for it?

i was wondering if someone more knowledgeable than i could please identify my spin gear, or Beyblade?


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Ultra - Jun. 03, 2013

It's fake. Plain and simple.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 03, 2013

I wanna find out what a Saizo NIB looks like, also, does anybody on here know the seller of the NIB Ultimate Dragoon? jh1026?


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - umbrulla - Jun. 03, 2013

Is is AR and weight and bottom a galzzly, or is the whole blade fake?
or is just the extra red plastic weight and spin gear fake?


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Ultra - Jun. 03, 2013

The whole thing is fake. Why would anyone mix fake parts with real ones?

(Jun. 03, 2013  11:04 PM)Shining God MS Wrote: I wanna find out what a Saizo NIB looks like, also, does anybody on here know the seller of the NIB Ultimate Dragoon? jh1026?

Here you go:

http://www.japtou.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=beyblade&category_id=0&product_id=1289

Why exactly? He won't lower his price. Sellers with high prices never do. If you really need to buy one right now then buy this one:

http://www.japtou.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=beyblade&category_id=0&product_id=7847

For a NIB Ultimate Dragoon you should only pay between $20 - $30 excluding shipping. However since that one is takara and rarer due to being older (that beyblade was released 13 years ago whereas the hasbro is around 11 - 12) I think that price isn't is decentish. A good price would be between $20 - $25 though.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - LMAO - Jun. 04, 2013

(Jun. 03, 2013  11:04 PM)Shining God MS Wrote: I wanna find out what a Saizo NIB looks like, also, does anybody on here know the seller of the NIB Ultimate Dragoon? jh1026?

Yeah, I've bought plenty of things from him. I can vouch for him, he's a very good seller, with quick shipping.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 04, 2013

(Jun. 03, 2013  11:29 PM)Ultra Wrote: The whole thing is fake. Why would anyone mix fake parts with real ones?

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I wanna find out what a Saizo NIB looks like, also, does anybody on here know the seller of the NIB Ultimate Dragoon? jh1026?

Here you go:

http://www.japtou.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=beyblade&category_id=0&product_id=1289

Why does it say #52? Shouldn't it be #02? The price is awesome compared to the Ultimate Dragoon on ebay -.-

Oops Tongue_out Quote fail Tongue_out Anyway... I might get the Ultimate Dragoon, also, I want too see a Frostic Dranzer NIB, por favor.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Ultra - Jun. 04, 2013

Those are from the H-series which was done specifically in Hong Kong, Macao, & China. These were released by a company that Takara licensed beyblade to for release in other countries and they so they did releases differently than Takara's. (This is still done today btw. That's what sonokong is). Those two will be most likely be rereleases. The original releases of them would have 1 and 2 on the boxes just like the takara ones. It makes no difference whatsoever so i'd buy them this they are cheaper than JH1026's insane price.

As for UFD sorry but it's one of the rarest things in plastics. NIB takara ones only come around several times in whole year and when they do it's usually part of NIB lots of YJA. So i'd buy with the Ultimate Dragoon for now.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - umbrulla - Jun. 04, 2013

Maybe they were just a kid messin around in the backyard with their friends? it looks very used and abused up close.
i mean why would a Beyblade be buried 2 feet in the ground? other than a kid?
Also the colors of the different parts clash with the (possible) galzzly parts?


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Ultra - Jun. 04, 2013

Every part of it is clearly fake. Sorry man. Also the spin gear isn't even close to the real thing. The outer casing is but the inner bit is completely different from the real thing.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 04, 2013

Hey, may I see a NIB Kids Draciel? Also, how much would it be worth and what Top Tier uses would it have?


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - umbrulla - Jun. 04, 2013

Aight, thanks man c: it doesn't really matter to me weather its real or fake i just wanted to have fun with it. I was just wondering because i wanted to know if i could use a real launcher for it? or if it was left or right SG
i'm going to hazard a guess and say i need the regular right launcher? if it would even fit the model....
worth a shot i guess.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Ultra - Jun. 04, 2013

I hope you're searching for these on google and before you ask me. Um I can't find one since the japanese release is very rare for some reason. The packaging was a plastic bag rather than a box as I explain below. It's not worth anything really. Master draciel is exactly the same except for the colour and is very common. It's only use is that it's top tier for weight based defence customs on bases such as Draciel S and Driger V2's when customised right.

For the number series takara released starters and some beys which needed more packaging like hidden spirits beys in boxes and then for the boosters they were packaged in plastic bags. This was obviously to reduce costs since if a bey is in a box you need to pay money to design the illustrations for each it and print the design on it. Takara later abandoned this policy in the main series. Hasbro did something similar where each box was the same except for the picture of the bey. However to keep it interesting they changed designs several times over the series. Anyway below is listed which were boxed and which were in plastic bags.

1 - 3 Boxed
4 - 9 plastic bags
13, 15 - 16 plastic bags
17 - 18 Boxed
22 - 26 Plastic bags
27, 30 Boxed
31 Plastic bag
32 - 35 Boxed
36, 39 Plastic Bag
40, 43 - 47 Boxed
48 Plastic bag


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - th!nk - Jun. 04, 2013

(Jun. 04, 2013  2:33 AM)umbrulla Wrote: Aight, thanks man c: it doesn't really matter to me weather its real or fake i just wanted to have fun with it. I was just wondering because i wanted to know if i could use a real launcher for it? or if it was left or right SG
i'm going to hazard a guess and say i need the regular right launcher? if it would even fit the model....
worth a shot i guess.

I replied to this in the regular Q&A thread before checking here (so you may want to check there), but it's definitely fake, although that's not a gimmick I've seen used before haha I'd assume it was a motion-sensor/light up thing. Yes, the spin gear should be a right spin one, but it looks pretty poorly molded, so it mightn't work well.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 06, 2013

Are any parts of Gaia Dragoon useful whatsoever? If so, please reply. I would also, like to see a NIB Triple Step Type Stadium.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - th!nk - Jun. 06, 2013

I'm 99.999999% sure I've discussed the usage of its parts plenty of times before, search for it, the part names, etc, and you should find plenty of information (limiting it to posts by me might make it easier perhaps).

If you want to find a picture of something old, then the main way is to lurk Y!JA every single day or so and keep an eye out for anything that you don't recognise - Ultra does this, I used to do it regularly but now I only do it sometimes because I have other, arguably more important things to do both beyblade-related and otherwise. Not sure if Triple Step has been found using that or not, and even if it has it would take me a while to figure out which of the many randomly-named images in my "old/rare stuff that we don't have pictures of" folder it is. However IIRC it was a pretty plain tornado-ridge less stadium as all of the legal plastics and MFB stadiums have three differently-angled sections (i.e. 3 'steps'). Similarly, the double step has two differently angled slopes, and stadia before them would likely all be just a simple, consistent bowl.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Ultra - Jun. 06, 2013

I'm sure that we discussed it before either here or via PM but it's likely that it's second tier for attack types and basically a lesser version of Gaia Dragoon V's base. It would very likely have been top tier and as such used in tourneys in japan back in the days before Gaia Dragoon V appeared.

I have a site but I was busy and posting a link is pretty boring compared to explaining something to someone so it forgot I needed to go back to it. Here:

http://bladerkids.waruagaki.at-ninja.jp/bey-data/a05_bstye.htm

Despite the cool sounding name it's just a normal boring old stadium. All the name means it that has three distinct sections.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 07, 2013

Ultra, you know how you said a Kids Draciel is impossible to find, yeah... I found one on Y!JA. It's NIP XD


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Ultra - Jun. 07, 2013

Show me a link please? It is compared to the other 4 layer stuff which isn't hard to find at all on YJA. Everything pops up every once in a while. I exaggerated a bit too much (which I should clearly stop doing).


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 07, 2013

Okay! Here you go http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h177536126 Found this rare Tournament Limited Set of Dragoon S too http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m109707952


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Ultra - Jun. 07, 2013

That's not from a tournament. Where did you hear that? It's the prize from random booster 4. They barely ever appear NIP (new in packaging) like that but the price for used ones which appear a few times a year in used lots are is so little (because they're in used lots so like $10 or so if you go through a middleman and buy the lot) it still means that price is ridiculously high.

Also to make it clear since you're not used to the market or the way I talk when I said impossible I meant it's impossible to find the japanese version for a good price. A good price would be like $20 new since the hasbro version isn't rare at all. When someone who has the japanese one they sells it they do so for that ridiculous price like that one. The price is ridiculous because Master Draciel is exactly the same beyblade but in green and a pretty low price of around 450 - 700 yen.

Death Driger also has the same situation but even worse. Both the hasbro and Takara versions are really rare with both only appearing used or boxed infrequently. As such the price is high. But it has no useful parts whatsoever. So when someone finds one and sells it the price is so high it will not sell or take a while since only someone who really wants want and has a large amount of money to throw around will buy it (see any rare dranzer/dragoon beyblades/Shining God for more proof of thory which is really just a simple application of supply and demand).

EDIT:

Actually looking at it now all of his old series beyblade stuff is overpriced (clearly showing he has no understanding of what people will pay) with the exception of his Gigars (the other one on ebay is unusually low) and Bearing Stinger and even those are only not high rather than good.


RE: Plastics Q&A Thread (All Plastics Questions Go Here! Plastics Only.) - Snoop Dog MS - Jun. 07, 2013

But why is there a silver one that comes with it?