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Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 04, 2011
This combo doesn't sound very good, but it's versatile. I used Cancer since I don't have an extral Kerbecs, and I didn't test against 230 since I currently don't have it. I would appreciate it if you guys could test with Kerbecs and against 230. I only did 10 rounds for each test, but I will do more eventually.
Basalt Cancer D:D (S Mode) VS Hell Kerbecs BD145 WD (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 90% (8KO, 1OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 10% (1KO)
Bluezee's method does work (at least for me).
Basalt Cancer D:D (S Mode) VS MF-H Libra BD145CS (Normal Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 80% (1KO, 7OS)
Libra Win Rate - 20% (2KO)
I used Libra since I didn't have an extra Basalt. I hope it's OK. Like wih Hell Kerbecs BD145WD, the wobbling S destablizes Libra.
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode) VS Meteo L-Drago D125 XF (Barrage Mode)
Standard Procedures (Both Stall)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 80% (8KO)
Meteo L-Drago Win Rate - 20% (2KO)
I have not mastered Meteo L-Drago CH120XF, so the results might be off. I don't know what launch technique to use, so I would appreciate someone experienced with that combo test it.
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS Lightning L-Drago D125RF (Upper Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Weakly Launched)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 90%
Lightning L-Drago Win Rate - 10%
I'm not good at using MF Lightning L-Drago BD145LRF, so I used this instead.
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS VariAres AD145R²F (Right Spin)
Stadard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 0%
VariAres Win Rate - 100% (10KO)
Basalt Cancer had no chance of winning against VariAres.
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode) VS MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Stall)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (1KO, 9OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 0%
After coming into the center where Hell Kerbecs is, Basalt Cancer still has enough Stamina to outspin Hell Kerbecs.
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode, Stall) VS Hell Kerbecs BD145RF (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 80% (8OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 20% (2KO)
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode, Stall) VS MF Gravity Perseus (ATK) D125RF (Right Spin, Counter Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate – 80% (4KO, 4OS)
Gravity Perseus Win Rate – 20% (2KO)
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode, Weak Launch) VS MF Gravity Perseus D125RF (Left Spin, Counter Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate – 90% (9OS)
Gravity Perseus Win Rate- 10% (1KO)
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode, Stall) VS MF Gravity Perseus (ATK) D125RF (Right Spin, Counter Mode, Stall)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate – 40% (4OS)
Gravity Perseus Win Rate – 60% (6KO)
Right-spin Attack is Basalt Cancer D:D's weakness.
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode) VS Scythe Kronos 85RF (Attack Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Stall)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 90% (9OS)
Scythe Kronos Win Rate - 10% (1KO)
Requested by Shadow Scythe.
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS MF Scythe Kronos GB145CS (Stamina Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (5KO, 5OS)
Scythe Kronos Win Rate - 0%
Basalt Cancer would either destablize or KO Scythe Kronos with its recoil. The last battle was a double KO but Scythe Kronos exited the stadium first by a split second.
Requested by BeyBladestation
MF-H Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS Lightning L-Drago D125RF (Upper Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Weak Launched)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (1KO, 9OS)
Lightning L-Drago Win Rate - 0%
MF-H Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode) VS MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Stalled)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 20% (2OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 80% (1KO, 7OS)
MF-H improves the win rate against Attack types but it severely decreases the win rate against MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS
Requested by NightVirgo8787
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS Gravity Perseus (Stamina) AD145WD (Left Spin, Defense Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (2KO, 2OS)
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS MF-L Gravity Perseus (Stamina) GB145WD (Left Spin, Defense Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (3KO, 1OS)
I only did 4 rounds for each since I didn't want to watch Gravity Perseus get defeated 20 times. Gravity is a light wheel compared to Basalt and its recoil and the fact that it's on WD...
Requested by stevebak
Basalt Cancer D:D (S Mode) VS Hell Kerbecs BD145D (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 80% (7KO, 1OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 20% (1KO, 1OS)
It's pretty much the same thing as WD. Only easier to KO.
Requested by NightVirgo8787
Deikailo's Results
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RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Deikailo - Aug. 04, 2011
Variares should be in left. A combo that generally tends to work is Variares 105-145 gimmick tracks (such as R145, W105, H145, or BD145) RF (since you want the versatility to spin both ways). If Variares is in right, I would simply switch Basalt Cancer to F and tornado stall. If Variares is in left, light launch on WB.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 04, 2011
Hmm... I'll try that later. I did Right Spin since I was defeating VariAres quite easily by weak launching. Thanks for the suggestion!
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - BeybladeStation - Aug. 04, 2011
Left spin is always better.
I tried my D:D on this with Earth (Yes, I know they're two different things) and the balance is horrible.
I can think right now that something like: MF Scythe Kronos GB145CS
Try it, tell me the results once done.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Dan - Aug. 04, 2011
CH120 or don't test meteo XF bro.
MF lightning LDrago 135rf isnt MF lightning LDrago bd145rf which is the equivalent of what you're doing there with meteo. Pm me or tornado stall or weak launch meteo. It should be able to OS F.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Deikailo - Aug. 04, 2011
(Aug. 04, 2011 7:12 PM)Dan Wrote: CH120 or don't test meteo XF bro.You know, you'll be able to test this since you won Variares
MF lightning LDrago 135rf isnt MF lightning LDrago bd145rf which is the equivalent of what you're doing there with meteo. Pm me or tornado stall or weak launch meteo. It should be able to OS F.
I'll be testing this as well as soon as I become not lazy and clean my room because everything spilled on my floor.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Dan - Aug. 04, 2011
Haha very true, thanks.
So yeah, I might as well whenever I get it. IIRC it has ridiculous width, put it in WB mode and weak shoot it for best results against attackersl.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - BeybladeStation - Aug. 04, 2011
THANK YOU DAN.
I was actually going to say that as well, for when I was using this as Earth and against LLD H145, I felt too much recoil. So, I decided to apply a weaker, left-spin launch. It worked quite, quite well.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Deikailo - Aug. 05, 2011
Against a low height right spin attacker...
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS Beat Eagle 85RF
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 40% (1KO, 7OS)
Beat Eagle Win Rate - 60% (12KO)
hmm....
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode) VS Beat Eagle 85RF
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 40% (1KO, 7OS)
Beat Eagle Win Rate - 60% (12KO)
Well then....That's interesting. I swear I did not just copy and past these results. Let's try something else!
Basalt Cancer D:D (S Mode) VS Beat Eagle 85RF
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 45% (9OS)
Beat Eagle Win Rate - 55% (11KO)
F is only a little bit faster than WB. The use of each mode is going to widely depend on whether your opponent chooses to bank or not. If they are banking, use F. If they are not, use S. Obviously, you're not going to know until it's too late, but it's always possible to conceal your mode change each battle (I.E. use F first, turn around, and switch modes) that way your opponent doesn't know whether to bank or not.
Even if beat eagle has a 60% win rate the majority of the time, that is because I knew when to bank and when not to bank because I knew the mode. Had I not known the mode, I can only guess the results would go into Basalt's favour. Bearing that in mind, I think this blade can be very competitive if you are good with mind games (coughKeicough)
By the way, a moth died for this results.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - BeybladeStation - Aug. 05, 2011
(Aug. 05, 2011 12:03 AM)Deikailo Wrote: F is only a little bit faster than WB. The use of each mode is going to widely depend on whether your opponent chooses to bank or not. If they are banking, use F. If they are not, use S. Obviously, you're not going to know until it's too late, but it's always possible to conceal your mode change each battle (I.E. use F first, turn around, and switch modes) that way your opponent doesn't know whether to bank or not.Agreed, this thing has happened to me as well. Basically, I was using MF Vari Ares 100RF, very great combination that is. Anyways, it was launched second, second to Earth _____ D
. Basically, if I were to go to a mode like WB, there would be no chance of Earth D winnings hall if I not had banked/sliding shoot. Then, my VariAres would take it down like scissors does to paper. It might be Earth, but it's not terrible.Anyways, bottom line, this combination will really take strategy to properly use. Honestly, I find nothing big from my, Mr. N's, or Deikailo's finds.
This combo is so-so.
Deikailo Wrote:By the way, a moth died for this results.My condolences, sorry for your loss.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 05, 2011
More tests:
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode) VS MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Stall)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (1KO, 9OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 0%
After coming into the center where Hell Kerbecs is, Basalt Cancer still has enough Stamina to outspin Hell Kerbecs.
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode) VS Scythe Kronos 85RF (Attack Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Stall)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 90% (9OS)
Scythe Kronos Win Rate - 10% (1KO)
Requested by Shadow Scythe.
Edit - My results and Deikailo's results added to the OP.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Bleik - Aug. 05, 2011
Thanks for the tests Mr. N
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Dan - Aug. 05, 2011
BeyBladestation Wrote:Anyways, bottom line, this combination will really take strategy to properly use. Honestly, I find nothing big from my, Mr. N's, or Deikailo's finds.careful, 'round these parts locals don't take kindly ta yer mumba-jumba 'bout "strategy" an' "practice".
Hear me well, sonny!
lol I still say this could be pretty good. As soon as I get this I will test MLD on it. It will be ridiculous.
/dibs >:V
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 05, 2011
(Aug. 05, 2011 5:42 PM)Dan Wrote: lol I still say this could be pretty good. As soon as I get this I will test MLD on it. It will be ridiculous.
/dibs >:V
I tried MLD on D:D and it didn't do so well. I think it was too light, even with an MF-H.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - BeybladeStation - Aug. 05, 2011
(Aug. 05, 2011 5:42 PM)Dan Wrote:That is like the first time I've ever done this 'mumbla-jumbla' you speak of...BeyBladestation Wrote:Anyways, bottom line, this combination will really take strategy to properly use. Honestly, I find nothing big from my, Mr. N's, or Deikailo's finds.careful, 'round these parts locals don't take kindly ta yer mumba-jumba 'bout "strategy" an' "practice".
Hear me well, sonny!
lol I still say this could be pretty good. As soon as I get this I will test MLD on it. It will be ridiculous.
/dibs >:V
Anyways, I was just agreeing with Deikailo, don't see a reason to hate on me.
(Aug. 05, 2011 5:42 PM)Dan Wrote:That is like the first time I've ever done this 'mumbla-jumbla' you speak of...BeyBladestation Wrote:Anyways, bottom line, this combination will really take strategy to properly use. Honestly, I find nothing big from my, Mr. N's, or Deikailo's finds.careful, 'round these parts locals don't take kindly ta yer mumba-jumba 'bout "strategy" an' "practice".
Hear me well, sonny!
lol I still say this could be pretty good. As soon as I get this I will test MLD on it. It will be ridiculous.
/dibs >:V
Anyways, I was just agreeing with Deikailo, don't see a reason to hate on me.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - pepsikola - Aug. 06, 2011
I think I lol'd 5 times reading through these posts, with an honest lol, so thats good. I also like how D : D (looks weird typed that way, but better than D
) can still be viable just through paranoia. This is making variares a more and more tempting buy to me! Good results!Also I also wish to give my condolences to the moth who made the ultimate sacrifice.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Dan - Aug. 06, 2011
You clearly didn't get the joke I was imposing.
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RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 06, 2011
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS MF Scythe Kronos GB145CS (Stamina Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (5KO, 5OS)
Scythe Kronos Win Rate - 0%
Basalt Cancer would either destablize or KO Scythe Kronos with its recoil. The last battle was a double KO but Scythe Kronos exited the stadium first by a split second.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - BeybladeStation - Aug. 06, 2011
On WB? Well, I guess that is good then.
Tell me, is Scythe getting caught underneath Basalt?
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 06, 2011
(Aug. 06, 2011 6:42 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote: On WB? Well, I guess that is good then.
Tell me, is Scythe getting caught underneath Basalt?
TBH, I don't really remember. I'll do a couple more battles later to see if it is.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 06, 2011
Results added to the OP and @BBS, no.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - ©oke - Aug. 06, 2011
(Aug. 06, 2011 9:06 PM)Mr. N Wrote: @BBS, no.Hmmm. you would think that considering the height of D:D, and Scythe's PC frame. Also nice tests Mr. N. Also would you try MF-H on Basalt Cancer(in WB mode). I think it will do well, considering the success of MF-H Basalt combos.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 06, 2011
Yeah I will later. It might lower the win rate when Basalt Cancer is battling Stamina types though.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - ©oke - Aug. 06, 2011
(Aug. 06, 2011 9:27 PM)Mr. N Wrote: Yeah I will later. It might lower the win rate when Basalt Cancer is battling Stamina types though.Very true. I was thinking more against attack. But Id like to see it against stamina and defense.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 07, 2011
MF-H Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS Lightning L-Drago D125RF (Upper Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Weak Launched)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (1KO, 9OS)
Lightning L-Drago Win Rate - 0%
MF-H Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode) VS MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures (Basalt Cancer Stalled)
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 20% (2OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 80% (1KO, 7OS)
MF-H improves the win rate against Attack types but it severely decreases the win rate against MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS