(Aug. 01, 2014  12:14 AM)Thumbnail Wrote: I see that they released metal versions, I only have tsunami and fire blaze. Do you think we could make their be a comeback and have a couple stations at tourneys for people who have them. Because as you said they are fun

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:23 AM)The Mystery Man Wrote: I've been absent for the scene for years. A quick question: the prongs on Zero-G launchers look the exact same as the old MFB ones, judging by the pictures. Does this mean Zero-G beys can be launched with MFB launchers and vice versa?

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:24 AM)Thumbnail Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:23 AM)The Mystery Man Wrote: I've been absent for the scene for years. A quick question: the prongs on Zero-G launchers look the exact same as the old MFB ones, judging by the pictures. Does this mean Zero-G beys can be launched with MFB launchers and vice versa?

Yes, and all parts except the face and metal wheel are interchangeable as well. Consider it an extension to the series, rather than a separate entity

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:33 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote: I seriously wonder how people can critisize Battle Strikers for being like beyblade but praise Top Plate for being a filler to Beyblade, since they look more like the HWS, I know that Top Plate and Beyblade(Sono Kong) were made by Sono Kong but isn't that a little "unoriginal" considering it's by the same company, it's like Call Of Duty where it's all copy and paste from Activision(Well it might not be but you get the idea), if anyone could answer or correct me that would be great.

I'm not favouring Battle Strikers(Though I actually like them a lot) over Top Plate but I need to know why it's like this.

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:40 PM)Leone19 Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:33 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote: I seriously wonder how people can critisize Battle Strikers for being like beyblade but praise Top Plate for being a filler to Beyblade, since they look more like the HWS, I know that Top Plate and Beyblade(Sono Kong) were made by Sono Kong but isn't that a little "unoriginal" considering it's by the same company, it's like Call Of Duty where it's all copy and paste from Activision(Well it might not be but you get the idea), if anyone could answer or correct me that would be great.

I'm not favouring Battle Strikers(Though I actually like them a lot) over Top Plate but I need to know why it's like this.

Well, the reason Top Plate is being more praised/appreciated/noticed because for one thing, it's made by an official distributor of Beyblade- it'd be like Hasbro making their own Beyblade (tops) system, in a sense. It's a filler/series that's made by a licensed distributor of Beyblades, so it doesn't come off as much as a knockoff as something like Dracco Spin or Battle Strikers would, since they're completely different and unrelated companies.

Like Echizen also said, something resembling Beyblade in Asia with tournaments and prizes, etc., means that Beyblade may have still been fairly popular up until the plug was pulled.

(Aug. 02, 2014  2:14 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:40 PM)Leone19 Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:33 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote: I seriously wonder how people can critisize Battle Strikers for being like beyblade but praise Top Plate for being a filler to Beyblade, since they look more like the HWS, I know that Top Plate and Beyblade(Sono Kong) were made by Sono Kong but isn't that a little "unoriginal" considering it's by the same company, it's like Call Of Duty where it's all copy and paste from Activision(Well it might not be but you get the idea), if anyone could answer or correct me that would be great.

I'm not favouring Battle Strikers(Though I actually like them a lot) over Top Plate but I need to know why it's like this.

Well, the reason Top Plate is being more praised/appreciated/noticed because for one thing, it's made by an official distributor of Beyblade- it'd be like Hasbro making their own Beyblade (tops) system, in a sense. It's a filler/series that's made by a licensed distributor of Beyblades, so it doesn't come off as much as a knockoff as something like Dracco Spin or Battle Strikers would, since they're completely different and unrelated companies.

Like Echizen also said, something resembling Beyblade in Asia with tournaments and prizes, etc., means that Beyblade may have still been fairly popular up until the plug was pulled.

Thanks, but here's the thing, why are people viewing Battle Strikers as Beyblades? I know I did the same with Top Plate but as you said it's a filler, so if Battle Strikers is unrelated to Beyblade then people shouldn't view them as Beyblade and as it's own "original" idea, after all it's main gimmick was control, it would be like if a show was compared to another for having a similar trait, it should just count as a single series as a whole as long as it's good with quality, and to me Battle Strikers can do that.

As for Swirl Fighters, they have little original ideas but are also unrelated to Beyblade, just similar, just because it's a top with beast motifs etc shouldn't automatically be justified as Beyblade Rip Offs.

(Aug. 02, 2014  2:32 PM)Leone19 Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  2:14 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:40 PM)Leone19 Wrote: Well, the reason Top Plate is being more praised/appreciated/noticed because for one thing, it's made by an official distributor of Beyblade- it'd be like Hasbro making their own Beyblade (tops) system, in a sense. It's a filler/series that's made by a licensed distributor of Beyblades, so it doesn't come off as much as a knockoff as something like Dracco Spin or Battle Strikers would, since they're completely different and unrelated companies.

Like Echizen also said, something resembling Beyblade in Asia with tournaments and prizes, etc., means that Beyblade may have still been fairly popular up until the plug was pulled.

Thanks, but here's the thing, why are people viewing Battle Strikers as Beyblades? I know I did the same with Top Plate but as you said it's a filler, so if Battle Strikers is unrelated to Beyblade then people shouldn't view them as Beyblade and as it's own "original" idea, after all it's main gimmick was control, it would be like if a show was compared to another for having a similar trait, it should just count as a single series as a whole as long as it's good with quality, and to me Battle Strikers can do that.

As for Swirl Fighters, they have little original ideas but are also unrelated to Beyblade, just similar, just because it's a top with beast motifs etc shouldn't automatically be justified as Beyblade Rip Offs.

I never mentioned Swirl Fighter.

As for Dracco Spin, it's obviously a Beyblade copy when the parts/designs are similar and they even use a Plastics launcher. Swirl Fighters did seem to use an HMS launcher, though.

People most likely said they we're copies of Beyblade because at the time the only (widely) known battling top game was Beyblade, which everyone had/has nostalgia for. They referred to it as a copy because it was a different companies take on a battling-top game. It's an illogical reason, but kind of the same reason that X card game copied Y cardgame, even if they're completely unrelated (like Yugioh or Pokemon).

(Aug. 02, 2014  2:40 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  2:32 PM)Leone19 Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  2:14 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote: Thanks, but here's the thing, why are people viewing Battle Strikers as Beyblades? I know I did the same with Top Plate but as you said it's a filler, so if Battle Strikers is unrelated to Beyblade then people shouldn't view them as Beyblade and as it's own "original" idea, after all it's main gimmick was control, it would be like if a show was compared to another for having a similar trait, it should just count as a single series as a whole as long as it's good with quality, and to me Battle Strikers can do that.

As for Swirl Fighters, they have little original ideas but are also unrelated to Beyblade, just similar, just because it's a top with beast motifs etc shouldn't automatically be justified as Beyblade Rip Offs.

I never mentioned Swirl Fighter.

As for Dracco Spin, it's obviously a Beyblade copy when the parts/designs are similar and they even use a Plastics launcher. Swirl Fighters did seem to use an HMS launcher, though.

People most likely said they we're copies of Beyblade because at the time the only (widely) known battling top game was Beyblade, which everyone had/has nostalgia for. They referred to it as a copy because it was a different companies take on a battling-top game. It's an illogical reason, but kind of the same reason that X card game copied Y cardgame, even if they're completely unrelated (like Yugioh or Pokemon).

Oh sorry I didn't mean to structure the sentence to make it like you mentioned Swirl Fighters and out of all those "rip offs" I'd say Battle Striker is the most original since it's battery powered launchers(also winder ones), magnetic controller, new layout, and different way to put a top on launcher, not to say it's 100% original but it does try and that's also why I prefer these over Top Plate, they are also more available.

(Aug. 03, 2014  11:51 AM)LeonTempest Wrote: Ive been offline for a LONG time 0_o According to my history, over a year it seems.

I am currently in Japan, scouring the toy stores for various things. One thing I have noticed is that there is no Beyblade to be found anywhere (there is an absurd amount of Super Sonico though 0_o)

I have been out of touch with the game for a long time. But before I continue to search for Japanese Beyblades, I have to know what happened to it? Is beyblade "over" for lack of a better word???

(Aug. 03, 2014  5:00 AM)iVtechboyinpa Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  2:40 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  2:32 PM)Leone19 Wrote: I never mentioned Swirl Fighter.

As for Dracco Spin, it's obviously a Beyblade copy when the parts/designs are similar and they even use a Plastics launcher. Swirl Fighters did seem to use an HMS launcher, though.

People most likely said they we're copies of Beyblade because at the time the only (widely) known battling top game was Beyblade, which everyone had/has nostalgia for. They referred to it as a copy because it was a different companies take on a battling-top game. It's an illogical reason, but kind of the same reason that X card game copied Y cardgame, even if they're completely unrelated (like Yugioh or Pokemon).

Oh sorry I didn't mean to structure the sentence to make it like you mentioned Swirl Fighters and out of all those "rip offs" I'd say Battle Striker is the most original since it's battery powered launchers(also winder ones), magnetic controller, new layout, and different way to put a top on launcher, not to say it's 100% original but it does try and that's also why I prefer these over Top Plate, they are also more available.

Just to add in really quick, nothing can ever really be "original", because comparisons will always be drawn to what came before. For example, Yu-Gi-Oh! and Magic, although two totally different and separate card games, I have seen compared. And for me personally, for those of you who know Temporal, I can imagine many would draw similarities between my TCG and Yu-Gi-Oh! or Magic. It's simply because one came out before the other, really. Battle Strikers is a radically different thing from Beyblade, but because they're both spinning tops and Beyblade came first, Battle Strikers are seen as "copies." I thought this way at once...

(Aug. 03, 2014  12:04 PM)Leone19 Wrote:

(Aug. 03, 2014  11:51 AM)LeonTempest Wrote: Ive been offline for a LONG time 0_o According to my history, over a year it seems.

I am currently in Japan, scouring the toy stores for various things. One thing I have noticed is that there is no Beyblade to be found anywhere (there is an absurd amount of Super Sonico though 0_o)

I have been out of touch with the game for a long time. But before I continue to search for Japanese Beyblades, I have to know what happened to it? Is beyblade "over" for lack of a better word???

Basically, it's on a hiatus, it seems. However, there are still tournaments (from TT) going on there, with various Beyblade prizes.

(Aug. 04, 2014  12:38 PM)fire7777777 Wrote: hi, i would to know how ara made the beyblade, which material? which metal? allimunum or what? and for the plastic? abs ore like some that?

(Aug. 04, 2014  12:49 PM)Leone19 Wrote:

(Aug. 04, 2014  12:38 PM)fire7777777 Wrote: hi, i would to know how ara made the beyblade, which material? which metal? allimunum or what? and for the plastic? abs ore like some that?

You mean how Beyblades are made?

Not sure what specific plastics are used, but the metal is zinc-alloy.

(Aug. 04, 2014  12:59 PM)Shido-kun Wrote:

(Aug. 04, 2014  12:49 PM)Leone19 Wrote:

(Aug. 04, 2014  12:38 PM)fire7777777 Wrote: hi, i would to know how ara made the beyblade, which material? which metal? allimunum or what? and for the plastic? abs ore like some that?

You mean how Beyblades are made?

Not sure what specific plastics are used, but the metal is zinc-alloy.

it's Zinc-alloy? I always thought it was stainless steel.

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:10 PM)|BeyBouncer| Wrote: Is the long winder from plastic generation is legal if used with a MFB light launcher ?
Regular short winder = 45 teeths
Long winder (with a dragon head) = 68 teeths
The power with the long winder is very similar to the Beylauncher.

(Aug. 04, 2014  1:51 PM)|BeyBouncer| Wrote:

(Aug. 02, 2014  1:10 PM)|BeyBouncer| Wrote: Is the long winder from plastic generation is legal if used with a MFB light launcher ?
Regular short winder = 45 teeths
Long winder (with a dragon head) = 68 teeths
The power with the long winder is very similar to the Beylauncher.

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