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RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - ShinobuXD - Aug. 12, 2013

Hey, could anyone tell me what sniping is?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - SaintBlader - Aug. 12, 2013

(Aug. 12, 2013  11:14 PM)ShinobuXD Wrote: Hey, could anyone tell me what sniping is?
Sniping is when you aim your launcher so that when you and your opponent launch, the beys make contact as soon as they enter the stadium in hopes of KO-ing your opponent or severely slowing down their spin.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Buu - Aug. 13, 2013

(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Each Defense-series Bottom is good for Stamina, ironically. Each one has a different angle, as you can see on Beywiki (http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/List_of_Bottoms ), so they are better in different circumstances due to their ability to remain balanced and due to their amount of precession. For instance, D is prefered with tall Tracks like 230, while WD is more global but not that good for tall combinations. SD is also great for general Tracks.

Is that the angle between the tip of the tip and the flat stadium floor? What's the angle for D? It doesn't specify. What's precession?

How do the different angles affect balance in different circumstances?

(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: No, it would be horrible in any decent metagame. Weighing several grams less than the average Beyblade will necessarily be a disadvantage. What is actually important is for there to be enough weight, not too much, but for it to be distributed on the circumference of the Wheel. As such, if you add a Metal Face, you are not really walking toward that goal.

How much weight is enough weight and not too much? Where on the circumference of the wheel does the weight have to be distributed? Does it need to be lightest in the center, and heavier around the outside? Would a metal wheel with a longer circumference be better for stamina?
I just got two Revizers, and Revizer Revizer is soo heavy, it falls over like a rock and barely has any stamina… too much weight?


(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: That really depends on how you use it, with what heavy or light combination, what the customization faces, how many times it got knocked out and landed on the Bottom, if you clean the rubber once in a while to remove the dust accumulated, etc. As such, we cannot give any accurate number. It could be anywhere between twenty and fifty, in my opinion.

Would cleaning the dust off the rubber cause it to wear out faster or slower? I'm thinking maybe the dust could act as a protective layer to the rubber tip...


(Aug. 09, 2013  3:35 AM)Buu Wrote: Is a Rev up launcher better than a beylauncher?
(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: From a technical point of view, yes, but it is way too inconsistent to be used in a competitive environment like in a tournament, and it breaks quite easily.

Even easier than the beylauncher, or about the same?


(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Those accessories are useful, but not obligatory. You would have to get a first Beylauncher and use it until it breaks, to see if you need to correct anything in your launch or if you absolutely need an accessory to smoothen the impact of the handle whipping back.

I got my first beylauncher recently and the launch is pretty weak because I'm scared I'm gonna break it. I feel like if I pull it the way I do a ripcord, the string would snap out of the launcher. After I pull it, I slowly retract the string so it won't whip back. I know this isn't an effective way of launching, but I don't think I can afford to get another one if it breaks, so... how do I figure out the correct way of launching it without breaking it first to find out?

(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: There is no real way. Make sure to always attach your Beyblade to the prongs softly, but this is an inevitable issue due to how heavy combinations are now. Even back at the beginning of Metal Fight Beyblade, when Beyblades used to weigh less than fifty grams, this was a problem that could not really be avoided.

Do the prongs break from putting the beyblades on too hard, or is it the process of launching that causes the breakage?

(Aug. 10, 2013  8:04 AM)Draciel516 Wrote: About the prongs breaking, simply changing the prongs from any ripcord launcher should be alright. Even if the beylauncher is a tt and the ripcord launcher prongs are hasbro, they should be interchangeable. I've gone through 3 sets of prongs with my beylauncher l/r and currently have lime green and black prongs. As long as you don't modify internals and simply replace prongs it should be legal. As for the hollowed out duo, it's meh. Phantom hyperblades version is a great alternative. I highly reccomend it. D is probably a better choice if you're playing zero-g. It really just depends. WD is by far the best stamina tip in most situations ImO. Hope this helped

How do you change the prongs? You mean the Phantom wheel from Phantom Orion? Why that wheel? Why is D better for Zero-g?... why is WD the best stamina tip in most situations?

(Aug. 10, 2013  1:07 PM)Cake Wrote: For WD/PD/D/SD:

On 200-230: D > SD > PD > WD
On 160-170: PD > D > SD > WD
On 145 and lower: WD > SD > D (not sure how PD fits in)
Generally, the higher the Track, the smaller diameter tip you need. SD is a decent choice no matter what the height, though.

Why a smaller diameter tip for taller tracks and larger diameter for shorter tracks?
Is it safe to assume D has the smallest diameter, and then SD, then PD, then WD has the biggest diameter?

Why PD for 160-170 tracks?


(Aug. 10, 2013  1:07 PM)Cake Wrote: BTW what's important for Stamina is outward weight distribution. If you look at a Hyperblade Phantom, the Core is plastic, and weighs next to nothing. Then, there's a big heavy metal ring on the outside. This makes it have a very strong flywheel effect which keeps it spinning for a long time. It's also why AD145 and Cancer are good for stamina; they are distributed outwards more than other Tracks or CWs.

That's very cool. Then is the reason the WD tip is best for stamina because it has a wider diameter so more weight is distributed on the outside?

What's the Cancer CW like and how is it more distributed outwards? Are the Cygnus and Hades clear wheels also more distributed outwards? What would be differences between Cancer, Cygnus, and Hades for uses in stamina?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - U wot m8 - Aug. 13, 2013

First question, how do I clean an F230?

And, which chrome wheel other than Girago, or Balro works well with Wyvang? Gryph?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - SwitchBlayder - Aug. 13, 2013

(Aug. 13, 2013  3:23 AM)HeavenKerbecs Wrote: First question, how do I clean an F230?

And, which chrome wheel other than Girago, or Balro works well with Wyvang? Gryph?
Wyvang goes well with itself for attack, other than that Gryph is a good second choice.
Not sure about cleaning your F230 though...


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Cannon - Aug. 13, 2013

(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Each Defense-series Bottom is good for Stamina, ironically. Each one has a different angle, as you can see on Beywiki (http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/List_of_Bottoms ), so they are better in different circumstances due to their ability to remain balanced and due to their amount of precession. For instance, D is prefered with tall Tracks like 230, while WD is more global but not that good for tall combinations. SD is also great for general Tracks.

SWD? XD

(Aug. 13, 2013  3:23 AM)HeavenKerbecs Wrote: First question, how do I clean an F230?

Take it apart and wash it with water, that temporarily fixes the brown one.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - Aug. 13, 2013

(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote: Is that the angle between the tip of the tip and the flat stadium floor? What's the angle for D? It doesn't specify. What's precession?

How do the different angles affect balance in different circumstances?

Of course it is the angle that separates the tip from being flat out on the stadium floor.

Ah, I had measured D previously for someone and thought I had added it on Beywiki already, but it is 35°.

Precession is when a Beyblade starts wobbling, at the end of its spin. It is the amount and the time it can wobble.

Hm, have you never tried using an S Bottom on a Beyblade and comparing it to a D-based Bottom ? Even F-based tips do not get out of balance as easily as S.


(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote: How much weight is enough weight and not too much? Where on the circumference of the wheel does the weight have to be distributed? Does it need to be lightest in the center, and heavier around the outside? Would a metal wheel with a longer circumference be better for stamina?
I just got two Revizers, and Revizer Revizer is soo heavy, it falls over like a rock and barely has any stamina… too much weight?

Even if I told you a number for the weight, it would mean nothing ... It also entirely depends on the shape of the Metal Wheel, because you could have a spiky plastic Attack Ring weighing a lot on the edges, but that would not be decent for Stamina ...

Anywhere on the circumference ... And yes, that is what circumference means.

Not really, because a huge Metal Wheel would be disproportionate when compared to Tracks and Bottoms it can have, and it would easily scrape. If the Metal Wheel is too huge, that would make it fall way off balance if it got knocked.

Yes, too much weight, notably.


(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote: Would cleaning the dust off the rubber cause it to wear out faster or slower? I'm thinking maybe the dust could act as a protective layer to the rubber tip...

But you would get horrible performances, which I think would make you try launching it more often to see if it improves ...


(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote: Even easier than the beylauncher, or about the same?

Yes, it breaks easier than the BeyLauncher.


(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote: I got my first beylauncher recently and the launch is pretty weak because I'm scared I'm gonna break it. I feel like if I pull it the way I do a ripcord, the string would snap out of the launcher. After I pull it, I slowly retract the string so it won't whip back. I know this isn't an effective way of launching, but I don't think I can afford to get another one if it breaks, so... how do I figure out the correct way of launching it without breaking it first to find out?

Just hold the handle loosely with two fingers, and then rip it out, and once the string is completely out, simply let go without holding the handle all the way back inside the BeyLauncher.

I have this restrain problem as well, which is why I use my left hand to launch. The psychological restriction is on my right hand since I am right-handed, but reasonably I have never had to place this sort of "protection" onto my other hand.


(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote: Do the prongs break from putting the beyblades on too hard, or is it the process of launching that causes the breakage?

Everything.


(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote: Why a smaller diameter tip for taller tracks and larger diameter for shorter tracks?
Is it safe to assume D has the smallest diameter, and then SD, then PD, then WD has the biggest diameter?

It is not safe at all to assume that, thanks to Beywiki ...
http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Bottom_List#D:_Defense (And look at SD below.)


(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote: What's the Cancer CW like and how is it more distributed outwards? Are the Cygnus and Hades clear wheels also more distributed outwards? What would be differences between Cancer, Cygnus, and Hades for uses in stamina?

http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Dark_Cancer_CH120SF#Gallery

You can often see if the weight is well distributed all on the circumference just by looking at the Clear Wheel.

Cygnus is not too bad either, and Hades also seems to have potential, but I do not think people have tried it a lot.

Usually you can simply alternate between Stamina Clear Wheels without there being too many differences.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - H3LLO - Aug. 13, 2013

What is the best way to control GF? Or is it just practice?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Cannon - Aug. 14, 2013

(Aug. 13, 2013  8:05 PM)H3LLO Wrote: What is the best way to control GF? Or is it just practice?

In what stadium; Zero-G or MFB ?

You just deep bank it in the MFB, from experience. It will generally smash into the wall really hard and force itself to form the flower pattern. But if you want a different launch: ie. tornado stall, launch it straight if it's well balanced, otherwise don't launch at full capacity.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - nupmuk - Aug. 14, 2013

Does GF wobble at the end of battle or is it too wide to wobble?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Cannon - Aug. 14, 2013

(Aug. 14, 2013  7:38 AM)nupmuk Wrote: Does GF wobble at the end of battle or is it too wide to wobble?

It creates a tornado-like effect due to its width, if that's what you mean.

GF generally stands up till the very end.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - nupmuk - Aug. 14, 2013

I have seen GCF do that and I can't imagine how drastic a difference it would be.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - METALCLAW13 - Aug. 14, 2013

Hi guys ! Just asking for any suggestions for hasbro beystadium for attack types


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - DrPepsidew - Aug. 14, 2013

(Aug. 14, 2013  12:03 PM)METALCLAW13 Wrote: Hi guys ! Just asking for any suggestions for hasbro beystadium for attack types

This question should go in the "Purchase Consultation" thread next time Smile
But in all honesty, Hasbro stadiums are biased against attack types Uncertain You'd definitely be better off using Stamina.
Try to invest in a Takara Tomy/Sonokong BB-10, or for Hasbro the best would be the Thunder Whip stadium or Max Stampede (without craters)
Hope I helped Smile
EDIT: Would ya look at that. My 1000th post


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Leone19 - Aug. 14, 2013

Edit: beaten By Dr. pepsidew Tongue_out

But yeah, the Max Stampede without craters if probably the best Hasbro stadium.

If you mean attack combos in Hasbro stadiums, look in this thread
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Hasbro-Metagame-Stadium-Combo-Testing-2-Updates?page=93


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - DrPepsidew - Aug. 14, 2013

We answered two possible questions that could be derived from that question...
#teamwork *Highfive


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - AsianBlader555 - Aug. 14, 2013

I dont know if this question is for this certain page but i will finally get my 1st takara tomy beyblades. All of my beys and gear are hasbro. So this is going to be new for me. So what beyblade/pack should i get? I was think of getting the ultimate dx set that comes with duo Uranus, wing Pegasus, and l-drago guardian. So is it worth buying/investing my money on?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - Aug. 14, 2013

(Aug. 14, 2013  3:17 PM)AsianBlader555 Wrote: I dont know if this question is for this certain page but i will finally get my 1st takara tomy beyblades. All of my beys and gear are hasbro. So this is going to be new for me. So what beyblade/pack should i get? I was think of getting the ultimate dx set that comes with duo Uranus, wing Pegasus, and l-drago guardian. So is it worth buying/investing my money on?

Absolutely, Duo is a crucial 4D Metal Wheel to own at this point. However, that question belongs in our Purchase Consultation topic, which is in the Bey Marketplace forum.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kei - Aug. 14, 2013

(Aug. 12, 2013  11:33 PM)SaintBlader Wrote:
(Aug. 12, 2013  11:14 PM)ShinobuXD Wrote: Hey, could anyone tell me what sniping is?
Sniping is when you aim your launcher so that when you and your opponent launch, the beys make contact as soon as they enter the stadium in hopes of KO-ing your opponent or severely slowing down their spin.

This is basically correct, but "Sniping" is more commonly known as "Gattyaki": http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Gattyaki


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - ShinobuXD - Aug. 14, 2013

Yeah, I know gattyaki, I was just wondering what sniping was, since I read a post from 2011 I believe where Deikailo said no one in the US could snipe.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - Aug. 14, 2013

(Aug. 14, 2013  7:12 PM)ShinobuXD Wrote: Yeah, I know gattyaki, I was just wondering what sniping was, since I read a post from 2011 I believe where Deikailo said no one in the US could snipe.

She also claimed to be the queen of Gattyaki ...


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - BloodLacerta - Aug. 14, 2013

Is it illegal to superglue my rubber tips? I find even with the bar in the middle they still wobble, and it's affected my RF and RDF's performance. Will post pics if anyone wants


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - Aug. 14, 2013

Yes, applying any foreign substance is illegal.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Draciel516 - Aug. 14, 2013

(Aug. 13, 2013  1:54 AM)Buu Wrote:
(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Each Defense-series Bottom is good for Stamina, ironically. Each one has a different angle, as you can see on Beywiki (http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/List_of_Bottoms ), so they are better in different circumstances due to their ability to remain balanced and due to their amount of precession. For instance, D is prefered with tall Tracks like 230, while WD is more global but not that good for tall combinations. SD is also great for general Tracks.

Is that the angle between the tip of the tip and the flat stadium floor? What's the angle for D? It doesn't specify. What's precession?

How do the different angles affect balance in different circumstances?

(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: No, it would be horrible in any decent metagame. Weighing several grams less than the average Beyblade will necessarily be a disadvantage. What is actually important is for there to be enough weight, not too much, but for it to be distributed on the circumference of the Wheel. As such, if you add a Metal Face, you are not really walking toward that goal.

How much weight is enough weight and not too much? Where on the circumference of the wheel does the weight have to be distributed? Does it need to be lightest in the center, and heavier around the outside? Would a metal wheel with a longer circumference be better for stamina?
I just got two Revizers, and Revizer Revizer is soo heavy, it falls over like a rock and barely has any stamina… too much weight?


(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: That really depends on how you use it, with what heavy or light combination, what the customization faces, how many times it got knocked out and landed on the Bottom, if you clean the rubber once in a while to remove the dust accumulated, etc. As such, we cannot give any accurate number. It could be anywhere between twenty and fifty, in my opinion.

Would cleaning the dust off the rubber cause it to wear out faster or slower? I'm thinking maybe the dust could act as a protective layer to the rubber tip...


(Aug. 09, 2013  3:35 AM)Buu Wrote: Is a Rev up launcher better than a beylauncher?
(Aug. 09, 2013  5:23 AM)Kai-V Wrote: From a technical point of view, yes, but it is way too inconsistent to be used in a competitive environment like in a tournament, and it breaks quite easily.

Even easier than the beylauncher, or about the same?


(Jun. 09, 1970  7:17 AM)Kai-V
[quote='Draciel516 Wrote:
About the prongs breaking, simply changing the prongs from any ripcord launcher should be alright. Even if the beylauncher is a tt and the ripcord launcher prongs are hasbro, they should be interchangeable. I've gone through 3 sets of prongs with my beylauncher l/r and currently have lime green and black prongs. As long as you don't modify internals and simply replace prongs it should be legal. As for the hollowed out duo, it's meh. Phantom hyperblades version is a great alternative. I highly reccomend it. D is probably a better choice if you're playing zero-g. It really just depends. WD is by far the best stamina tip in most situations ImO. Hope this helped

How do you change the prongs? You mean the Phantom wheel from Phantom Orion? Why that wheel? Why is D better for Zero-g?... why is WD the best stamina tip in most situations?

(Aug. 10, 2013  1:07 PM)Cake Wrote: For WD/PD/D/SD:

On 200-230: D > SD > PD > WD
On 160-170: PD > D > SD > WD
On 145 and lower: WD > SD > D (not sure how PD fits in)
Generally, the higher the Track, the smaller diameter tip you need. SD is a decent choice no matter what the height, though.

Why a smaller diameter tip for taller tracks and larger diameter for shorter tracks?
Is it safe to assume D has the smallest diameter, and then SD, then PD, then WD has the biggest diameter?

Why PD for 160-170 tracks?


(Aug. 10, 2013  1:07 PM)Cake Wrote: BTW what's important for Stamina is outward weight distribution. If you look at a Hyperblade Phantom, the Core is plastic, and weighs next to nothing. Then, there's a big heavy metal ring on the outside. This makes it have a very strong flywheel effect which keeps it spinning for a long time. It's also why AD145 and Cancer are good for stamina; they are distributed outwards more than other Tracks or CWs.

That's very cool. Then is the reason the WD tip is best for stamina because it has a wider diameter so more weight is distributed on the outside?

What's the Cancer CW like and how is it more distributed outwards? Are the Cygnus and Hades clear wheels also more distributed outwards? What would be differences between Cancer, Cygnus, and Hades for uses in stamina?

Alright, duo hasbro version is way too light to be competitive, yes I mean the phantom from phantom orion. It's much more solid and circular, lending to more LAD. To replace the prongs on a beylauncher, take one of your hasbro launchers and unscrew the screw in the middle. Take the prongs and the piece under it and do the same for your beylauncher. Now take the hasbro prongs and align the plastic piece and prongs on the slot for them. Screw in. Ta da! Prongs replaced!


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - H3LLO - Aug. 15, 2013

Has Hasbro released a Shogun Steel version of Bandid Genbull?