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RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - angelusbichi - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  5:22 AM)Hazel Wrote:
(Oct. 10, 2012  5:14 AM)angelusbichi Wrote:
(Oct. 10, 2012  5:02 AM)wpardin Wrote: No, WBO only approves the use of Takara Tomy Stadium. So, if you use a Hasbro stadium, then WBO will not approve the tournament you proposed.

So unless I get a Takara-Tomy stadium or some how magically find a tournament that is by me that has Takara-Tomy stadiums or I some how get the money to buy a Takara-Tomy stadium worth around 30 bucks, I am screwed? and will never go to a tournament?

That is correct. Hasbro stadia are not conducive to true competitive play, and you will make no arguments, to anyone, that will hold any water to the contrary. Either order a TT Stadium online, or go to tournaments that are hosted by/attended by others who have TT Stadia, like the rest of our participants.

Crud -.- Unhappy You and the WBO or WBBA or what ever do know that is not fair right? Not everyone can get there hands on a Takara-Tomy stadium and might not know someone much less more then one person that happens to have a Takara-Tomy stadium. I would love to go to a tournament but there are NONE by me and from the map thing on here NO bladers close to me. I am not arguing just stating a fact or atleast what I believe to be a fact, based on what I have seen on this site and online. How are my posts now Hazel? I am spelling all my words out and not using text form typing even though other people are using text form typing and not getting any flack for it that I can see of.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Hazel - Oct. 10, 2012

Actually, it's you that doesn't understand the necessity of the restriction; Hasbro stadia do not provide "fair" gameplay, or anything resembling it, at all. Our Metagame is based on the most balanced Stadia available, and that is for the best of our userbase, our Beyrankings, the competitive spirit of the game, and the overall usefulness of parts. The map is currently not functioning properly, last I recall, and the best way to find out if there are Bladers near you is to look in the WBO General forums.

I can't be a professional snowboarder, because I do not live in areas where snow is prolific. Unlike your issue, which could be resolved by spending 40 USD, I cannot buy a mountain covered in snow and the climate to maintain it. Everyone's got their sad stories.

Yours isn't so sad.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - angelusbichi - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  5:53 AM)Hazel Wrote: Actually, it's you that doesn't understand the necessity of the restriction; Hasbro stadia do not provide "fair" gameplay, or anything resembling it, at all. Our Metagame is based on the most balanced Stadia available, and that is for the best of our userbase, our Beyrankings, the competitive spirit of the game, and the overall usefulness of parts. The map is currently not functioning properly, last I recall, and the best way to find out if there are Bladers near you is to look in the WBO General forums.

I can't be a professional snowboarder, because I do not live in areas where snow is prolific. Unlike your issue, which could be resolved by spending 40 USD, I cannot buy a mountain covered in snow and the climate to maintain it. Everyone's got their sad stories.

Yours isn't so sad.

There are Hasbro stadiums with the stupid pits in them that would work just as well as the huge gaps on a Takara-Tomy stadium. I checked the map shortly after I joined this site and I looked in there and even commented a thread there were NONE by me. You can go to a state where there is snow so your problem is able to be fixed as well. Forty USD is even more then 30 dollars for which I do not even have that I live in the freaking projects I barely have enough money to buy one beyblade and have money to buy food to eat toward the end of the month so my problem is not as easy to solve as you claim it to be. How is it the best for your userbase when not everyone in your userbase can get a product that is needed so badly?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Hazel - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  6:01 AM)angelusbichi Wrote: There are Hasbro stadiums with the stupid pits in them that would work just as well as the huge gaps on a Takara-Tomy stadium. I checked the map shortly after I joined this site and I looked in there and even commented a thread there were NONE by me. You can go to a state where there is snow so your problem is resolvable as well. Forty USD is even more then 30 dollars for which I do not even have that I live in the freaking projects I barely have enough money to buy one beyblade and have money to buy food to eat toward the end of the month so my problem is not as easy to solve as you claim it to be.

You truly have no understanding of this game at all if you think those pits are a suitable replacement for actual exits - but, for the sake of novelty, I'll humor your genuine ignorance on this and point out to you that the reason Hasbro stadia are forbidden is more due to the shape of the bowl. The depth, width, curviture, and lack of a Tornado Ridge are all completely damning toward any facet of competitive play, and make it so that aggressive Defense, Anti-Attack, pure Attack, and so forth combos do not function at all in them, eliminating the Attack segment of the metagame entirely, which is unacceptable.

It would cost hundreds of dollars for me to do that, and I could not stay indefinitely besides without spending hundreds of thousands of dollars. Quite frankly, if you cannot afford Beyblades, that's your problem, not ours; I live on a government-provided fixed income that is less than half of minimum wage, pay rent, bills, and own several pets, and I still manage to own two Takara Tomy stadia, and a modest collection of beyblades besides. This, like all competitive hobbies, is a game of who can afford what items, and if you can't afford to compete, that's just it; no one else should suffer for your grievance.

Save money, like I did, or like any of the other children who don't even have incomes here did, to get what you need, or don't; but if you don't, don't you take even a second to assume it our responsibility to cater to you. The World Beyblade Organization revolves in a Takara Tomy stadium, and if you can't buy one, it certainly won't revolve around you.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - angelusbichi - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  6:09 AM)Hazel Wrote:
(Oct. 10, 2012  6:01 AM)angelusbichi Wrote: There are Hasbro stadiums with the stupid pits in them that would work just as well as the huge gaps on a Takara-Tomy stadium. I checked the map shortly after I joined this site and I looked in there and even commented a thread there were NONE by me. You can go to a state where there is snow so your problem is resolvable as well. Forty USD is even more then 30 dollars for which I do not even have that I live in the freaking projects I barely have enough money to buy one beyblade and have money to buy food to eat toward the end of the month so my problem is not as easy to solve as you claim it to be.

You truly have no understanding of this game at all if you think those pits are a suitable replacement for actual exits - but, for the sake of novelty, I'll humor your genuine ignorance on this and point out to you that the reason Hasbro stadia are forbidden is more due to the shape of the bowl. The depth, width, curviture, and lack of a Tornado Ridge are all completely damning toward any facet of competitive play, and make it so that aggressive Defense, Anti-Attack, pure Attack, and so forth combos do not function at all in them, eliminating the Attack segment of the metagame entirely, which is unacceptable.

It would cost hundreds of dollars for me to do that, and I could not stay indefinitely besides without spending hundreds of thousands of dollars. Quite frankly, if you cannot afford Beyblades, that's your problem, not ours; I live on a government-provided fixed income that is less than half of minimum wage, pay rent, bills, and own several pets, and I still manage to own two Takara Tomy stadia, and a modest collection of beyblades besides. This, like all competitive hobbies, is a game of who can afford what items, and if you can't afford to compete, that's just it; no one else should suffer for your grievance.

Save money, like I did, or like any of the other children who don't even have incomes here did, to get what you need, or don't; but if you don't, don't you take even a second to assume it our responsibility to cater to you. The World Beyblade Organization revolves in a Takara Tomy stadium, and if you can't buy one, it certainly won't revolve around you.

How are they not the same more or less? They both stop a beyblade from re-entering the stadium once it has been shot into the pit or out of the stadium. There are hasbro stadiums that have the ridge that you love so much and would fit your requirements for a beystadium like the Pegasus thunder whip stadium (I think) or the L-drago stadium or the L-drago metor stadium, the cosmic pegasus stadium and I am sure there are atleast one or two maybe more that would be just like them but different colors. True which is just like my problem but not as much money, congratulation on being able to do all that. I am not asking anyone to suffer for my grievances nor am I asking anyone to cater to me I was just saying that it is not fair for just the one brand of stadium is aloud and really so when not everyone lives where they could just go to the store down the road or what ever and shell out 20 bucks or what ever for a stadium I live in Florida I can not afford to order and ship a stadium from another state or country and the only income I have any access to is my mothers SSI and disability money and I can not get a job since I do not know what a bad day will happen so I can not get a job to get extra money to buy special products that cost 30 to 40 bucks when a 10 dollar stadium works just as well. I am not asking it to revolve around me either.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Achi-baba - Oct. 10, 2012

I have to agree on the pits, I had beys that could hop out as if nothing happened. And while I feel for the fact that you might not be able to afford special things, be happy to fave any beys and convince your friends into blading, if not, get friends that are interested in beyblade. Mystery Solved
I'm not siding with anyone.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - angelusbichi - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  6:25 AM)earthwolf1404 Wrote: I have to agree on the pits, I had beys that couldhop out as if nothing happened. And while I feel for the fact that you might not be able to afford special things, be happy to fave any beys and convince your friends into blading, if not, get friends that are interested in beyblade. Mystery Solved

You could have stopped it if it hopped out and I have no friends in real life and no one by me that would even be remotely interested in beyblade and I am happy i have any beys I never said I was not happy to have them and buying the beys is not what this was about it is the stadiums we were talking about.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Hazel - Oct. 10, 2012

Like I said, it's not any one of those factors, it's all of them combined; we have thoroughly tested all of the Hasbro stadia, and they all have very large dead zones, so even the ones with Tornado Ridges are suicide for Attackers. The majority(read: vast majority) of us had to order our TT Stadia online, and pay full price for them. Children who only get 5-15 dollars a month have these stadia, and paid full price for them.

Regardless of your circumstances, confusing and impossible to discern though they may be(and entirely irrelevant, to boot; if you'd like to play the pity game, I could see your battleship at the bottom of the sea by dawn). I live in Alabama, on the Floridian border. You can mow lawns, do odd jobs, or, quite frankly, as far as I can tell, still get a job of your own. But, whether you do or not makes no difference to us: we will not allow Hasbro stadia, and that is final. If Hasbro stadia did work as well, we would allow them, but they do not - it's not a matter of elitism. We would love for the cheapest, most widely-available option to be viable, but it simply is not, and that is the end of it.

If you don't understand why they won't work, let me illustrate it better: Your hatred for "F series tips" is because they're worthless in the stadia you have. Those tips are integral to the metagame we have, because they are the only potent attack tips. We have several testing threads and prior discussions that lay all of this out quite plainly, but I have summarized it as well as it needs to be summarized.

There is, quite frankly, nothing more to be said on this matter.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Achi-baba - Oct. 10, 2012

Iceburn

Does doing Tyson's wrist twist launch do any affect for metal series attack type beys?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - angelusbichi - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  6:35 AM)Hazel Wrote: Like I said, it's not any one of those factors, it's all of them combined; we have thoroughly tested all of the Hasbro stadia, and they all have very large dead zones, so even the ones with Tornado Ridges are suicide for Attackers. The majority(read: vast majority) of us had to order our TT Stadia online, and pay full price for them. Children who only get 5-15 dollars a month have these stadia, and paid full price for them.

Regardless of your circumstances, confusing and impossible to discern though they may be(and entirely irrelevant, to boot; if you'd like to play the pity game, I could see your battleship at the bottom of the sea by dawn). I live in Alabama, on the Floridian border. You can mow lawns, do odd jobs, or, quite frankly, as far as I can tell, still get a job of your own. But, whether you do or not makes no difference to us: we will not allow Hasbro stadia, and that is final. If Hasbro stadia did work as well, we would allow them, but they do not - it's not a matter of elitism. We would love for the cheapest, most widely-available option to be viable, but it simply is not, and that is the end of it.

If you don't understand why they won't work, let me illustrate it better: Your hatred for "F series tips" is because they're worthless in the stadia you have. Those tips are integral to the metagame we have, because they are the only potent attack tips. We have several testing threads and prior discussions that lay all of this out quite plainly, but I have summarized it as well as it needs to be summarized.

There is, quite frankly, nothing more to be said on this matter.

then use the sliding shoot and that fixes your problem. What is stadia? what part of projects do you not get? or do you not know what that is? i can not get a job because i can not leave my sick mother alone for any certain time frames. i do not get 5-10 bucks a month and what the hell then why did your page say you lived in some place like Malaysia or something like that, it is elitism when you are only letting certain products to be used in official tournaments when not everyone can get those products and i am not saying use the cheapest and no i hate the F series tips is because they kill the stamina so much so fast without doing any good in the battle why would they have to need to "charge" at the other bey when the fusion wheel does more of the attacking then the "charging" does. i can not find most of these threads you are claiming are on here and why does your profile say male when your name is hazel? that is a girl name and it is bull to force people to buy something just so they can enter a event. and what i said in my previous posts were fine to understand -.-


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Hazel - Oct. 10, 2012

Sliding Shoot does not fix any of the problems I mentioned, and we have Hasbro testing threads in the customizations forum; they clearly have the word "Hasbro" in the title. We have children here from the Projects, and many other, considerably more downtrodden regions than your own first-world "slums". My page has never stated I was from Malaysia - it says Alabama, and basically always has.

This is a competitive game, and we only allow the things conducive to competition. To put it as frankly as I possibly can, you are wrong, about literally everything, concerning this matter. This community knows more about Beyblade than you do, more about competition than you do, and infinitely more about what is and is not better for itself than you do. Your absolutely ignorant ideas about the F series tips are a bigger demonstrator of this than anything else, for reasons so basic and easily understood I can't even begin to actually fathom someone needs them explained.

My username is Hazel because my username is Hazel. My gender is male regardless of that username.

Now, let me make myself perfectly clear, angelusbichi, so that even you(yes, you!) can understand: If you don't like the way we do things, leave. You're just making a fuss for the sake of making a fuss, now; your point has long since been absolutely demolished, and you're back to your usual behavior: complaining about how everything is unfair and your situation is impossible to overcome and everyone else is the villain. I will not tolerate these baby crises.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - angelusbichi - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  7:08 AM)Hazel Wrote: Sliding Shoot does not fix any of the problems I mentioned, and we have Hasbro testing threads in the customizations forum; they clearly have the word "Hasbro" in the title. We have children here from the Projects, and many other, considerably more downtrodden regions than your own first-world "slums". My page has never stated I was from Malaysia - it says Alabama, and basically always has.

This is a competitive game, and we only allow the things conducive to competition. To put it as frankly as I possibly can, you are wrong, about literally everything, concerning this matter. This community knows more about Beyblade than you do, more about competition than you do, and infinitely more about what is and is not better for itself than you do. Your absolutely ignorant ideas about the F series tips are a bigger demonstrator of this than anything else, for reasons so basic and easily understood I can't even begin to actually fathom someone needs them explained.

My username is Hazel because my username is Hazel. My gender is male regardless of that username.

Now, let me make myself perfectly clear, angelusbichi, so that even you(yes, you!) can understand: If you don't like the way we do things, leave. You're just making a fuss for the sake of making a fuss, now; your point has long since been absolutely demolished, and you're back to your usual behavior: complaining about how everything is unfair and your situation is impossible to overcome and everyone else is the villain. I will not tolerate these baby crises.

sliding shot fixes your riding the ridge problem and i never said slums just projects and no when i first checked your page after u kept deleting my posts and giving me warnings it said some foreign place. im not saying i know more then anyone but to force people to buy costly things just to enter a event is not right nor fair and F tips make the beyblade have added attack power by moving around faster and if paired with the right fusion wheel it has even better attack power, and the thing about ur username is like saying i am right because i am right, i am not making a fuss just to make a fuss it is a legitimate problem that u do not seem to get.
Do you think it is fair to only have three maybe four stadiums that are only allowed that not everyone can get? a simple yes or no


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Achi-baba - Oct. 10, 2012

Return of the Iceburn. But Hazel, I think hewas referring to me about the sliding shoot thing, when I was asking if the launch I mentioned in my last post affects the performance of current attack types, because I've tried, but only see a cool entrance for battle.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - angelusbichi - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  7:26 AM)earthwolf1404 Wrote: Return of the Iceburn. But Hazel, I think hewas referring to me about the sliding shoot thing, when I was asking if the launch I mentioned in my last post affects the performance of current attack types, because I've tried, but only see a cool entrance for battle.

no i was talking to hazel


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Hazel - Oct. 10, 2012

Sliding shot in stadia with large dead zones is worthless; you need proper curviture for it to work. I get your problem, it just isn't one that matters enough to ruin our competitive environment. It's legitimate to you, because you're a victim of the negative consequences, and cannot see beyond your own field of vision.

Besides all of this, since you swear up and down you have no friends and no one would play with you, you have no valid complaint anyway; even if you had an Attack Stadium, you would be alone, and then start complaining about how we don't send people across the country to host for people too lazy to do it themselves.

Now, this conversation is concluded, and any further derailment will be punished. Have a delicious evening.

And, of course I support the rules of this Organization. No petition would change them, either, so your attempt at polling for voices is juvenile and pointless. Our priority is with providing a stable, competitive environment, for those who can compete in it. If you cannot compete in it, we're sorry, but that is not immediately our concern. If you cannot drive to an event, or cannot host one, then you cannot compete, and that is just the end of it.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - wpardin - Oct. 10, 2012

angelusbichi: The stadiums used for WBO tournaments are easily bought or get. You are just making excuses to make right about your opinions. Everyone has their own problems in this life. Never make pity of yourself & never hate or envy others because they are better than you. You just a person with a lot of hatred. So, stop it & change to be a better person.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Hazel - Oct. 10, 2012

Well, being that angelusbichi decided to tank his account just now, let's all have this thread back on track. Pip pip.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Achi-baba - Oct. 10, 2012

Dude, anyone can have a tournament, but unless it is aprooved it is unofficial. Just make a private PM invite only tournaments, if you get someone to tend to your mom(no pun intended).So you can have your way, make some friends, and stop spaming like a chucklehead.(jeeze, this is supposed to be a ?'s thread, and my last ? still hasn't been answered because of this)


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - th!nk - Oct. 10, 2012

Tyson's launch is terrible and awkward. A Sliding Shot is the optimal launch for most attack types, and if executed correctly adds more force than that incredibly awkward launching style.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - specter187 - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  8:03 AM)earthwolf1404 Wrote: Dude, anyone can have a tournament, but unless it is aprooved it is unofficial. Just make a private PM invite only tournaments, if you get someone to tend to your mom(no pun intended).So you can have your way, make some friends, and stop spaming like a chucklehead.(jeeze, this is supposed to be a ?'s thread, and my last ? still hasn't been answered because of this)
Are you saying that I can go outside tell my friends that im gonna be having a tournament,get my stadium and just do it?



RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Synth - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  10:16 AM)specter187 Wrote:
(Oct. 10, 2012  8:03 AM)earthwolf1404 Wrote: Dude, anyone can have a tournament, but unless it is aprooved it is unofficial. Just make a private PM invite only tournaments, if you get someone to tend to your mom(no pun intended).So you can have your way, make some friends, and stop spaming like a chucklehead.(jeeze, this is supposed to be a ?'s thread, and my last ? still hasn't been answered because of this)
Are you saying that I can go outside tell my friends that im gonna be having a tournament,get my stadium and just do it?

Well, yes and no. Yes you can tell people about the tournament. No on the rest: your tourney needs to be approved by the WBO (In case you want it to be in the WBO). You also need the right stadium (approved by Our laws)(at least 1).



RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - SnakeFangsâ„¢ - Oct. 10, 2012

does gravity perseus actually do grvity defence? pm me plz.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Cannon - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  12:07 PM)Andy12 Wrote: does gravity perseus actually do grvity defence? pm me plz.

Gravity Defense? What?

Gravity has uses in Attack, not defense.


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - specter187 - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  11:04 AM)Synth Wrote:
(Oct. 10, 2012  10:16 AM)specter187 Wrote:
(Oct. 10, 2012  8:03 AM)earthwolf1404 Wrote: Dude, anyone can have a tournament, but unless it is aprooved it is unofficial. Just make a private PM invite only tournaments, if you get someone to tend to your mom(no pun intended).So you can have your way, make some friends, and stop spaming like a chucklehead.(jeeze, this is supposed to be a ?'s thread, and my last ? still hasn't been answered because of this)
Are you saying that I can go outside tell my friends that im gonna be having a tournament,get my stadium and just do it?

Well, yes and no. Yes you can tell people about the tournament. No on the rest: your tourney needs to be approved by the WBO (In case you want it to be in the WBO). You also need the right stadium (approved by Our laws)(at least 1).
I just want to have a tourney with me and my friends not a official tourney or anything just us



RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Synth - Oct. 10, 2012

(Oct. 10, 2012  1:05 PM)specter187 Wrote:
(Oct. 10, 2012  11:04 AM)Synth Wrote:
(Oct. 10, 2012  10:16 AM)specter187 Wrote: Are you saying that I can go outside tell my friends that im gonna be having a tournament,get my stadium and just do it?

Well, yes and no. Yes you can tell people about the tournament. No on the rest: your tourney needs to be approved by the WBO (In case you want it to be in the WBO). You also need the right stadium (approved by Our laws)(at least 1).
I just want to have a tourney with me and my friends not a official tourney or anything just us

Then go ahead. It's your tournament anyways. But If you want to be in the Beypoint system, then making a tourney here is a best choice.