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RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - LeonTempest - Jan. 08, 2012

I havent been keeping up to date with 4D latelly. recently, Wing Pegasis 90WF and L-Drago Gaurdian S130MB were recently released along side Duo Uranus. Before there release I heard that Wing and Gaurdian were alternate names for Big Bang and Destroy recolors (respectivly). Is this true? If so why seperate names? If not what are the differences between Big Bang Pegasis and L-Drago Destroy (respectivly) other than the colors, spin track, and performance tip?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - DynaZord - Jan. 08, 2012

[Image: 4cb2d9070f60a174f51da64021379da9.image.300x300.jpg]
Doesn't look like BBP and LDD recolors to me...
They're different beys.
Big Bang Pegasis is Big Bang Pegasis.
Wing Pegasis is Wing Pegasis.
L-Drago Destroy is L-Drago Destroy.
L-Drago Guardian is L-Drago Guardian.
No recolors involved Smile

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - Jan. 08, 2012

Look on Beywiki ...

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - LeonTempest - Jan. 08, 2012

Strange. Scrolling through the thread surronding thier release people stated that it would be the same...damn you speculation, however fun you may when few in number...

I heard they were manga-exclusive (never appeared in the anime). Perhaps though, I should save that question for Beyblade Anime/Manga Radom thoughts?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Megalishes - Jan. 08, 2012

Why is it that when I put T125ES to flame, it touches the ground frequently but why isn't it the case when we put T125ES to burn metal wheel it doesn't go down and touch the ground?


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Shabalabadoo - Jan. 08, 2012

Because Burn's weight is very focussed on the outside which gives better balance. With great balance comes less scraping. (or great responsibility?)

It's refered to as the Flywheel Effect

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - LeonTempest - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  3:51 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Look on Beywiki ...

While I did/can find other means to search for this information, how can I research something on beywiki that isnt on beywiki yet?

If this wasn't directed at me, I apologize.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Shabalabadoo - Jan. 08, 2012

Lol, there's an article for each of those three beyblades.

yo searching sucky.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - LeonTempest - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  5:33 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: Because Burn's weight is very focussed on the outside which gives better balance. With great balance comes less scraping. (or great responsibility?)

It's refered to as the Flywheel Effect

Can this "flywheel effect" be achieved with similar parts? (DF145, DF105) and what impact would GB145 have on this? (Outward weigh distribution of the metal balls in GB145 while in roation increase stamina, but when combo loses balance, GB145 scrapes the stadium floor)

Basicly, I would like to know more about this "flywheel" effect, but in detail, if at all possible. Thanks
(Jan. 08, 2012  5:38 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: Lol, there's an article for each of those three beyblades.

yo searching sucky.

I was looking at recently added articles. I also typed in "Wing" and nothing came up for me...odd...

I will admit that I didnt search for "Destroy" or "Gaurdian" because I didnt expect anything to even be there.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - Jan. 08, 2012

The most effect you can get is obviously with the Metal Wheels. With the Tracks, it is mostly negligible, unless you have clearly big Tracks like BD145. GB145 can indeed help to an extent though, but as you mentioned, it could scrape after a while. Beyblade is anything but one-dimensional, so you can almost never just say : "Yes it will act like that because of this".

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Shabalabadoo - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  5:41 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote:
(Jan. 08, 2012  5:33 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: Because Burn's weight is very focussed on the outside which gives better balance. With great balance comes less scraping. (or great responsibility?)

It's refered to as the Flywheel Effect

Can this "flywheel effect" be achieved with similar parts? (DF145, DF105) and what impact would GB145 have on this? (Outward weigh distribution of the metal balls in GB145 while in roation increase stamina, but when combo loses balance, GB145 scrapes the stadium floor)

Basilcy, I would like to know more about this "flywheel" effect, but in detail, if at all possible. Thanks

It works with every part. It's why back in the day, AD145 was better for stamina than 145. GB145 does it, but for stamina, it's weight reduces its friction too much, which reduces the spin time. GB145 is great for Attack because of the Flywheel effect though.

Basically, having weight outwards maintains its balance more, as well as momentum. It also makes Attack Types move faster.

I believe Kai-V wrote about it in detail somewhere. I believe in the Physics topic in the Beywiki project forum or even on Beywiki? Not sure though.

Edit: haha, my (mini) middle paragraph just got owned.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - LeonTempest - Jan. 08, 2012

Thanks Kai-V and Shabalabadoo =) I cannot posts in the physics topic, but I will be sure to read it over agian (I have before) I am very interested in physics, and have been getting myself involved lately in studying it, specificly physics with beyblade. Sadly my physics class has yet to cover downforce and anything involving rotation...although frivtion and momentum, as well as basic volocity and acceleration related topics have been covered in great detail.

Here is a physics related question. Rubber has a very high co-effecient of friction, mu (μ). This means that it has a very large amount of grip with the plastic stadium floor. But how are rubber flat style tips able to move so fast? By this I mean, the amount of friction between the rubber and the stadium floor should prevent fast movement like that. The only logical thing I can think of is that the rubber's kenetic friction is signifigantly lower than it's static friction (Kenetic is always lower than static) and the momentum of the bey over powers the static friction. I am probobly not wording this correctly/misunderstanding something, so all help would be appreciated.

Again, thank you for the help

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - Jan. 08, 2012

You see, I wrote all about that in the actual other, public Physics topic which existed a while before Mc Frown's. I think there is indeed something in your search that you need to improve ...

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - LeonTempest - Jan. 08, 2012

I really only look at McFrown's. The other has appeared in my search results before, but I disregard it alot becase it lacks the protection of legitatmite knowlage the one in the advanced forum has.

However, if my answer does lie in the other topic, than I shall find it. i just need to have the attention span to do so =P

Thanks for all of your help. I will look into that right away
Now I listened to Kai-V and Shabalabadoo, I googled, I serched everything on the WBO related to this, and read all of it, but I just feel so confused. If there is so much friction from the rubber there should be very little movement. I understand that rubber has alot of traction, but I am confused as to how higher traction results in larger amounts of movement? And if higher friction does not mean higher traction

Ugh I am having one of thos moments where I want to ask something but I dont know how to ask it properly...this is still bad IMO, but how does friction relate to traction? (relationship?)

God I am sorry I must sound like such an idioit...

Be aware that I ask this not because I searched poorly, but because I do not nderstand the concept after doing research, so before someone tells me to"read arounds" consider that, because that wont help me at this point...sadly...sorry for being stupid...

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - rajatgovind123 - Jan. 08, 2012

can you tell if i put the spin track LW105 in galaxy pegasus it will be more powerful or the power will decrase?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - beymaster78 - Jan. 08, 2012

How do I do the sliding shoot

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Benjohadi - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  7:22 AM)beymaster78 Wrote: How do I do the sliding shoot

use search function next time..
sliding shot lesson (Click to View)


RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Djalu13 - Jan. 08, 2012

how to sliding shoot with a BeyLauncher

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Benjohadi - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  7:59 AM)Djalu13 Wrote: how to sliding shoot with a BeyLauncher

if you listen, learn the theory...using any launcher is just the same..just that you are not using any rip cord...

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - S.D.C - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  7:20 AM)rajatgovind123 Wrote: can you tell if i put the spin track LW105 in galaxy pegasus it will be more powerful or the power will decrase?
The effect will be negligible... (ie The effect on the beys performance will be so small it won't matter)

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - hylianfreak - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  8:05 AM)S.D.C Wrote:
(Jan. 08, 2012  7:20 AM)rajatgovind123 Wrote: can you tell if i put the spin track LW105 in galaxy pegasus it will be more powerful or the power will decrase?
The effect will be negligible... (ie The effect on the beys performance will be so small it won't matter)

It probably wouldn't help much at all but wouldn't the slight bit of weight help very slightly? I know galaxy isn't heavy enough to make a good attack ring, but still.
Also, what does PD stand for, can't find it anywhere, and what does it come with?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Janstarblast - Jan. 08, 2012

As you can't find it hylian, I'll answer. But actually, its relatively easy to find, even on Google. Smile
PD- Polish Defense
It comes with the LED Light Accessory.
@rajatgovind- 105 isn't an effective height anyway...

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Synth - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  10:29 AM)hylianfreak Wrote: It probably wouldn't help much at all but wouldn't the slight bit of weight help very slightly? I know galaxy isn't heavy enough to make a good attack ring, but still.

No... Slight weight difference wont do much. Unless, of course, its really heavy.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - Jan. 08, 2012

(Jan. 08, 2012  6:09 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: I really only look at McFrown's. The other has appeared in my search results before, but I disregard it alot becase it lacks the protection of legitatmite knowlage the one in the advanced forum has.

However, if my answer does lie in the other topic, than I shall find it. i just need to have the attention span to do so =P

Thanks for all of your help. I will look into that right away
Now I listened to Kai-V and Shabalabadoo, I googled, I serched everything on the WBO related to this, and read all of it, but I just feel so confused. If there is so much friction from the rubber there should be very little movement. I understand that rubber has alot of traction, but I am confused as to how higher traction results in larger amounts of movement? And if higher friction does not mean higher traction

Ugh I am having one of thos moments where I want to ask something but I dont know how to ask it properly...this is still bad IMO, but how does friction relate to traction? (relationship?)

God I am sorry I must sound like such an idioit...

Be aware that I ask this not because I searched poorly, but because I do not nderstand the concept after doing research, so before someone tells me to"read arounds" consider that, because that wont help me at this point...sadly...sorry for being stupid...

The good posts are from Nic and I. Stop being so narrow-minded, both of us are obviously veterans and we know what we are talking about, we do not need a post in the Advanced Forum for that, it did not exist yet at that time.

If you ask about that again when I told you that there was an article exactly about that in the first Physics topic, you will be warned. Read and learn, it is simple. I do not want to explain it again.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - wag214 - Jan. 08, 2012

Hey guys im new here and i had a few questions that i hope you guys could help me with.
1.I used to play a little b4 and im trying to get back in the game; i was wondering which beys are better for a fresh start, a Hasbro Metal Master edition bey or a Takara Tomy 4D bey?
2. Does anyone have those IR control beys and if so are they fun to play with or just a waste of money?
3.In the marketplace there are some prices that are labeled " GBP8.99 >>> GBP7.99 ".. Im confused, which one is the price?

Sorry If im bombarding the thread with a lot of questions.
Anywho thanks in advance and take care.

-Will