(Jul. 09, 2013  1:21 AM)Giraton Wrote: wow, you guys have a hard time. I have got an entire group set up at my school, made of up of 7 people. my sister is also willing to pay for burmudas and my bro has a bunch of decks. not to mention the 3 card game stores I can go to play.

(Jul. 08, 2013  3:41 AM)Temporal Wrote: I find it quite unfortunate that few people I know play Vanguard. My brother only has a half-deck he got at an anime convention (Because he refuses to buy anything non-Kagero...), and a friend of mine plays Aqua Force. Though she wants to try an OTT build. It's a pain to find the distributors in Chicago, because they're mostly on the north side, and really tiny. Given my paltry budget, I'm not sure if it matters, anyway.

The last time I tried Aqua Force, I noticed that the Trial Deck is REALLY Grade 1 reliant. Maybe it's just me. But most the the early hits came from the vanguard, but only if they were well-boosted early on by something like Battle Siren, Dorothea, and were flanked by Grade 1s. (Though those hitting were not a requirement...) I find that a Limit Break-capable Navalgazer Dragon boosted by Battle Siren, Dorothea is quite effective in the endgame, so long as you have counterblasts to burn. (Though the deck could live without so many Key Anchor, Dabids... I'll replace at least one with another Navalgazer Dragon if I can.) I did get lucky and pulled an Aquabreath Dracokid, so that went in ASAP. But it is still pretty reliant on early Grade 1 setup.

(Jul. 11, 2013  2:47 AM)Bazooka Wrote: What days do most cardfighters go to stores to play? Is there a weekly tourney like there is with MTG?

(Jul. 14, 2013  6:04 PM)Thunder Dome Wrote: Out of curiosity how many Perfect Guards are in the Gold Paladin Clan? I'm working off the Trial Deck that I got earlier this month and it had no perfect Guards so I was wondering. I know about Halo Shield Mark and was thinking about using that if I got one though. Just trying to figure out options. And is Grassland Breeze Sagramore a good starting Vanguard?

(Jul. 14, 2013  7:13 PM)Rustled Jimmies Wrote:

(Jul. 14, 2013  6:04 PM)Thunder Dome Wrote: Out of curiosity how many Perfect Guards are in the Gold Paladin Clan? I'm working off the Trial Deck that I got earlier this month and it had no perfect Guards so I was wondering. I know about Halo Shield Mark and was thinking about using that if I got one though. Just trying to figure out options. And is Grassland Breeze Sagramore a good starting Vanguard?

Okay, here's how it works.

Trial Decks do not supply you with everything you need but the basics. Perfect Guards are Staples, but not basics. Trial Decks give you Rainbow Triggers, 8k Vanillas, and 10k Vanillas that you will often run four of in your decks because they are staples. Perfect Guards are RR cards you only get in packs due to their all-time blocking effect which would suck if they were that easy to get.

That said, you need about 4 of those Marks. There is current 1 /Halo Shield, Mark/ in English, but two of them exist: Set 6 and Set 9 as a rerelease. You can purchase the Set 9 Marks online for cheaper, since they are currently about say $12 or so. Or you can buy boxes of Set 6 or 9 (you get at least 5 RRs in a box).

And no, a better starting VG for Gold Paladins would be either /Crimson Lion Cub, Kryph/, /Black Dragon Whelp, Vortimer/, or /Spring Breeze Messenger/ depending on your build.

Please refer to this post: http://www.v-mundi.com/2012/deep-clan-gold-paladin/

(Jul. 14, 2013  7:52 PM)Thunder Dome Wrote:

(Jul. 14, 2013  7:13 PM)Rustled Jimmies Wrote:

(Jul. 14, 2013  6:04 PM)Thunder Dome Wrote: Out of curiosity how many Perfect Guards are in the Gold Paladin Clan? I'm working off the Trial Deck that I got earlier this month and it had no perfect Guards so I was wondering. I know about Halo Shield Mark and was thinking about using that if I got one though. Just trying to figure out options. And is Grassland Breeze Sagramore a good starting Vanguard?

Okay, here's how it works.

Trial Decks do not supply you with everything you need but the basics. Perfect Guards are Staples, but not basics. Trial Decks give you Rainbow Triggers, 8k Vanillas, and 10k Vanillas that you will often run four of in your decks because they are staples. Perfect Guards are RR cards you only get in packs due to their all-time blocking effect which would suck if they were that easy to get.

That said, you need about 4 of those Marks. There is current 1 /Halo Shield, Mark/ in English, but two of them exist: Set 6 and Set 9 as a rerelease. You can purchase the Set 9 Marks online for cheaper, since they are currently about say $12 or so. Or you can buy boxes of Set 6 or 9 (you get at least 5 RRs in a box).

And no, a better starting VG for Gold Paladins would be either /Crimson Lion Cub, Kryph/, /Black Dragon Whelp, Vortimer/, or /Spring Breeze Messenger/ depending on your build.

Please refer to this post: http://www.v-mundi.com/2012/deep-clan-gold-paladin/

So would the best thing for me to do is buy a Set 6 Booster Box if I want to work off the trial deck I have?

(Jul. 15, 2013  4:03 AM)Rustled Jimmies Wrote: Actually, you forgot Garmore. /Silver Great Wolf, Garmore/ is one of the most consistent GP bosses.

Ezel, not so much.

Alternatively, Spectral Duke and Chromejailer make a pretty good combo.

Now, you don't have to buy 4 GP Trial Decks. You can just go to an online store, say Coolstuff Inc., and order a single Garmore online for less than $10.

or, if you don't have "plastic", you can buy an Amazon gift card, make an Amazon account, apply said gift card into your account, and buy 4 Garmore there.

Same with Marks. Marks are $10-12 right now, so you don't have to buy boxes just to look for them. That's a waste of money.

(Jul. 15, 2013  8:43 AM)Axel Phantom Wrote:

(Jul. 15, 2013  4:03 AM)Rustled Jimmies Wrote: Actually, you forgot Garmore. /Silver Great Wolf, Garmore/ is one of the most consistent GP bosses.

Ezel, not so much.

Alternatively, Spectral Duke and Chromejailer make a pretty good combo.

Now, you don't have to buy 4 GP Trial Decks. You can just go to an online store, say Coolstuff Inc., and order a single Garmore online for less than $10.

or, if you don't have "plastic", you can buy an Amazon gift card, make an Amazon account, apply said gift card into your account, and buy 4 Garmore there.

Same with Marks. Marks are $10-12 right now, so you don't have to buy boxes just to look for them. That's a waste of money.

eh I don't consider garmore a "boss" though it is a good card especaly for new player, Ezel gets a power bonus and calls stuff to RG at once meaning you can repeat it for another bonus and another RG while garmore does let you consistently get what you want, the power bonus does not stack

(Jul. 15, 2013  9:39 AM)Giraton Wrote:

(Jul. 15, 2013  8:43 AM)Axel Phantom Wrote:

(Jul. 15, 2013  4:03 AM)Rustled Jimmies Wrote: Actually, you forgot Garmore. /Silver Great Wolf, Garmore/ is one of the most consistent GP bosses.

Ezel, not so much.

Alternatively, Spectral Duke and Chromejailer make a pretty good combo.

Now, you don't have to buy 4 GP Trial Decks. You can just go to an online store, say Coolstuff Inc., and order a single Garmore online for less than $10.

or, if you don't have "plastic", you can buy an Amazon gift card, make an Amazon account, apply said gift card into your account, and buy 4 Garmore there.

Same with Marks. Marks are $10-12 right now, so you don't have to buy boxes just to look for them. That's a waste of money.

eh I don't consider garmore a "boss" though it is a good card especaly for new player, Ezel gets a power bonus and calls stuff to RG at once meaning you can repeat it for another bonus and another RG while garmore does let you consistently get what you want, the power bonus does not stack

OI, DON'T EVER SAY GARMORE ISN'T A BOSS!!! sorry he is my favourite unit. he is definitely a boss when there are entire decks that run 4 of him, competitive decks.

Quote:If you have Ezel out with 5 rear-guards and your vanguard booster is Little Battler Tron, he is attacking during that turn for 25000. If you then use Ezel’s call effect, your average power to topdeck is 7000 including rounding down. This is a very important statement. You should not expect to get more than 7000 power when using a Gold Paladin random-call. That also does not account for if it will be a booster or attacker. This means that an ideal Blond Ezel, on average, attacks for 32000 or 5 stages. That’s either going to be no-guard or perfect defense. No one is going to drop 5 stages of guard on Ezel, especially when you can then trigger check into something nasty. This actually is not impressive for Counterblast 2, given that Garmore gets the same extra stage that puts him into perfect guard territory, and he actually gets to choose the card with his own superior call (which can combo into other plays). Overall, Ezel is decent only because you can Superior Ride to him and even then, only because Kyrph was once the only decent starting Vanguard. With Spring Breeze Messenger out, Kyrph is not required, and neither is Ezel.

(Jul. 15, 2013  11:44 PM)Rustled Jimmies Wrote: lol Maining Ezel. Are you high?

Garmore is a consistent RG searcher that makes up for the minus of riding over your current VG. For 2 CB. No power boost, but you get a much-needed RG into your field. This isn't even his Limit Break skill. By Late Game, he gets a 5k boost when he attacks. Nevermind personal booster, if he has say Knight of Elegant Skills, Gareth, the 8k vanilla, he does 3 stages of damage against an 11k VG. Every. Freaking. Turn. He attacks.

Ezel waits until Late Game to CB2, top deck, and get the power of that called RG? And for what, just that one turn? Notice how Garmore is more consistent in choosing what RGs to call vs Ezel's top-decking and temporary power boost.

In fact, reference this:

Quote:If you have Ezel out with 5 rear-guards and your vanguard booster is Little Battler Tron, he is attacking during that turn for 25000. If you then use Ezel’s call effect, your average power to topdeck is 7000 including rounding down. This is a very important statement. You should not expect to get more than 7000 power when using a Gold Paladin random-call. That also does not account for if it will be a booster or attacker. This means that an ideal Blond Ezel, on average, attacks for 32000 or 5 stages. That’s either going to be no-guard or perfect defense. No one is going to drop 5 stages of guard on Ezel, especially when you can then trigger check into something nasty. This actually is not impressive for Counterblast 2, given that Garmore gets the same extra stage that puts him into perfect guard territory, and he actually gets to choose the card with his own superior call (which can combo into other plays). Overall, Ezel is decent only because you can Superior Ride to him and even then, only because Kyrph was once the only decent starting Vanguard. With Spring Breeze Messenger out, Kyrph is not required, and neither is Ezel.

Are you really gonna be stupid enough to CB2 twice in one turn because lol bonuses. And lose triggers and even needed PGs just because temporary one-turn power boosts? There are better uses for your CB.

Stop giving bad advice for god's sake already. It's beyond frustrating to read main-character-fueled advice to a newbie who doesn't know what to start and has to rely on other people that either know or don't know what they're talking about. Seriously, read the article I posted. You'll actually learn something instead of spouting fallacies.

(Jul. 16, 2013  1:23 AM)Rustled Jimmies Wrote: >Implying winning regularly at local tourneys makes you a good player.
>Implying winning big tourneys means you are a good player.
>Implying that a game that involves chance with triggers and other cards, aka Sack, makes you a good player
>Implying I have to "master the game" to understand what I'm talking about
>Getting defensive and attacking me for going against you without even considering my argument

Also, you're speaking from experience, but you don't main deck GPs? And you're listing possible advantages of the cards? Do you even think ahead of the game? Do you think of the overall consequences of doing certain things that will impact the rest of the match?

Before Crossrides became a thing in the English format, I held my own against GPs and other decks with huge advantage. I topped a few times and even was confident enough to make it midway to qualifiers. Because I learned from a community that broke down how to play the game to its full potential and actually WIN. That community dissected everything about this game, and people have learned from it. I have the experience to back up my resources, but you're speaking from what, anecdotes? Anime? Just by reading the card? Oh, maybe the rarity of the card even means its a good thing.

What insults me more is that you didn't even read or comment about my post to refute your argument. You just automatically assumed I am "complaining" even though I'm giving you substantial evidence of the card's ability and how worth it it is. You just see the bottom part of my post, see red, and then attack me for being "a bad person". I am refuting your argument of even considering or praising Ezel when you have a better choice. Where you get "I'm not saying ezel is the best" is beyond me.