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Flame is back in the game!? Flame Bull 130 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
Okay, so I was tidying up my bedroom, Beyblade parts were scattered everywhere, being my procrastinating self, I looked for a distraction. I of course chose Beyblades, so I picked up my flame wheel and looked under it, noticing how it was raised slightly and then I remembered when flame was a top tier stamina part that it was always used at a 145 height. By looking at it I guessed that the 135 height track would be best to make it a "true" 145 height, however 130 turned out to be much better. The point of bringing flame back up to this height is that if it was used on a 145 height track, it would be easier to destabilize by other 145 height beys, thereby in lowering the track slightly we would realize flame's true stamina potential, or at least that is the notion, say tuned. (135 height results have been kept for comparison).
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Flame Bull 135 WD Vs. Earth Aquario AD145 WD (Flame Bull launched first, alternating shots)
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RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Dan - Feb. 22, 2011
Doesn't this really just revolve around mid-height stamina types?
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Earth-Cancer-125WD-vs-Other-Track-Heights
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I suggest you do quite a few more tests with different types before going off and create a thread..
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Callum6939 - Feb. 22, 2011
try against some more listed combos, but also you want at least above 50% win rate above top tier stamina types to get it a chance.
try putting against earth bull ad145 wd (i know it was nearlly the same but just putting here), and burn bull ad145 wd, hehe i noticed i but both ad145 wd
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Venumelion - Feb. 22, 2011
A. More testing is needed.
B. TT Attack Stadium is preferable
C. Do testing against Earth/Burn Bull 135WD
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
Alas I only have one 135, no attack stadium, but more stamina testing is on the way!
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - -_- - Feb. 22, 2011
ok, if this has potential, swap the wd's and see if that makes a difference, this combo has had not even average test results so how does this have nearly tier 1 potential???
i suggest this thread gets locked untill better results are up, you did not need to make a new thread for these results.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Evan - Feb. 22, 2011
Flame Cancer 100SF.
That's the best you're gonna get.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Phantom_Blader - Feb. 22, 2011
personally i agree with the others on this, as this lacks stamina potential capable of succeeding to even tier 2 you must conduct better resluts when you obtain newly refreshed parts as i believe you stated that your flame bull had worn parts
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
OK, I'll add that too my to do list, which I am working on! coming to a thread near you soon are!
Flame bull 135WD Vs. Basalt Aquario AD145WD
Flame Bull 145WD Vs. Earth Aquario 145WD
Flame Bull 130WD Vs. Earth Aquario AD145WD
Flame Bull 135WD Vs. Earth Aquario AD145WD (with swapped WD's)
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - -_- - Feb. 22, 2011
test all with 135, some say 145 some say 130 ect.
also try against 230 combos and combos with sd.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
145 and 145 are for comparison with the 135 results.
(Feb. 22, 2011 12:28 AM)Dan Wrote: Doesn't this really just revolve around mid-height stamina types?
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Earth-Cancer-125WD-vs-Other-Track-Heights
Edit:
I suggest you do quite a few more tests with different types before going off and create a thread..
I don't believe so, maybe if you were rating the height by only the track, but seeing how flame is raised I don't think so.Also I'm sorry, but I was exited to post my first combo
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Kai-V - Feb. 22, 2011
Flame is outclassed, yes : am I missing something ?
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
Nope, I just realized it did much better on a 135 height than 145, maybe enough to bring it back up to speed, rest assured, I have proof, it's coming, it might take it's sweet time though.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Shabalabadoo - Feb. 22, 2011
Flame raised 10mm?
That seems too much to me.
I'm not really seeing the point of these tests:
So flame can be at the exact height as any other metal wheel at 145?
So what, it still has less stamina.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
Oh carp, you're right, I flopped that, I forgot 10mm was 1cm, but it's basically enough to bring it up to the same height, I'm testing the stamina at this height, it's slightly promising, and even if not, it's another thing we don't need to test, so please bare with me.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Shabalabadoo - Feb. 22, 2011
Yep, I know you're trying, but if it can't win against burn or earth at any height, when they are the same height, then this is just a really bad niche.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
Hmm, I feel immense pressure to make this work, and this is probably a niche that I got overexcited about, and this could get closed, but then again, absolutely no one else has tested this yet, so maybe, theres hope for flame yet.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Kai-V - Feb. 22, 2011
Your own test results show that there is no hope for Flame though ...
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
I don't wanna diss my own greatness but there could always be various factors that could have interfered with my testing, afterall shouldn't every combo be tested extensively before we rule it out/put it through to top tier, and I also still have to do tests at the 130 height.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SkySora441 - Feb. 22, 2011
i tried it looses its balance very quicly against lightning ldrago and meteo ldrago because they are so short and wd gets off balance so quickly and flame is highly outclassed by burn or earth but keep trying i think your on to something
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
Thanks but testing it against attack won't prove anything, seeing as it's a stamina type, although stamina and defense testing are appreciated, thanks though, support is needed as much as testing through this tedious late night testing session.
Updated the OP with swapped WD tests and conclusion about my WD's and I continue the struggle alone...
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
Updated with PROMISING results for 130, starting the S130 tests, WOOP!
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - Gibraltor - Feb. 22, 2011
Please close this Kai-V it's keeping the good topics from showing because people keep posting here >.>
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SajjanSV - Feb. 22, 2011
MEAN, Dawg, these results aren't terrible you know, 9/20 against a top tier, plus ongoing testing, and it would help your case more if you tested it for yourself and posted the results to prove if it's deserving of being closed.
RE: Flame is back in the game! Flame Bull 135 WD - SkySora441 - Feb. 22, 2011
ok so attack is out then so i tried it against a earth bull c145wb first round win second round loss and draw so its decent against defense