(Dec. 07, 2010  2:00 PM)Ellume Wrote: So I wanted to share a couple thoughts I had about the wiki which I feel might help its creation.

(1) Make placeholder wiki pages for beyblades that are under construction or still need to be done. It acts as a To Do list so people can see what still needs to be done, you could have who is working on making the page if someone has claimed it, and possibly inspire others to help out when they see that something needs to be done. You could even have a little message on unfinished pages like "Help out make the BeyWiki! Check out the Beywiki Project Forum for more information."

(2) Split pages/beyblades down into parts, rather then working at entire pages at once. Basically take on the standard wikipage format of doing things piecemeal. Instead of trying to complete an entire page all in one go, break it down into smaller, easier to complete pieces. Like what if people simply wrote up the info for one part of the beyblade? Or just the overall summary? Or perhaps someone just puts up the pictures for the parts before the writeup is complete? Or if someone does want to complete all the parts they can still put up what they have done after they complete each part, rather then at the very end.

(3) Wiki page(s) for stadiums. There are lots of stadiums out there, and even though I'm not on the forum all the time I've seen a number of seemingly repetitive posts about stadiums. Why not have a wikipage for them? Have a picture and a little description. I know I would find it useful, as I don't know off hand what all the stadiums look like by name.

(Dec. 07, 2010  2:23 PM)momiji manju Wrote: (1) There is a list written out already, and if you read the Parts list, the names in red have no page.

The people working on pages write up a draft and post it here first.

(Dec. 07, 2010  2:23 PM)momiji manju Wrote: (2) I don't quite understand this, since the pages are generally written up so that each piece gets a section. I guess it somewhat makes sense, but I think people would prefer to have a full analysis of a bey in one page, rather than a bit by bit analysis.

An overall analysis isn't exactly essential, unless you mean it's worth in terms of customisability, which is just the general overview anyway.

(Dec. 09, 2010  5:05 PM)Ellume Wrote: I guess I was unclear on this point. What I ment to say is not break each beyblade into separate wiki pages, but split up the work for each beyblade. Using the current system, instead of one person submitting a draft for an entire beyblade, a person could submit a draft for a particular part of the beyblade. Then the page could be made more like a standard wiki with the possibility of multiple authors. So I'm saying keep the same format your using for the beyblade pages, just break up the work done on it into smaller parts so the pages can be completed faster.

This already happens to an extent since with parts where they're already done they are just transfered over. Tbh I don't see any point in doing this. It probably won't save time cause it will complicate thing further.

I would actually encourage a different system rather then submitting drafts on the forum, which can be rather slow and be the cause of confusion or wasted effort (people putting in a fair bit of work writing up a beyblade that someone else is also working on). And take an approach used by a lot of wikis of have everyone be able to "improve" a page, but have an administrator(s)/overseer(s) who governs changes, undo poor changes, and otherwise manage the pages so they become more professional over time. Yeah, the first thing someone throws down might not be great but at least it is something, and someone else can step in and make a change to fix or improve it. Everything is logged, everyone can look and see who changed what, and if there is a dispute then the admin can overrule in order to keep the direction in accord with their views of what is professional. This approach would accelerate the creation of the beywiki, and perhaps get more people involved as some people may write content, others post pictures, others correct grammar, others add links to other pages, etc. There are a lot of people that like to help out in different ways.

The system your suggesting is pretty complicated and the one we have at the moment works fine. Maybe it's not fast but good articles take work and time. Also people already comment on people's articles and suggest better versions.

(Dec. 09, 2010  5:05 PM)Ellume Wrote: I would actually encourage a different system rather then submitting drafts on the forum, which can be rather slow and be the cause of confusion or wasted effort (people putting in a fair bit of work writing up a beyblade that someone else is also working on). And take an approach used by a lot of wikis of have everyone be able to "improve" a page, but have an administrator(s)/overseer(s) who governs changes, undo poor changes, and otherwise manage the pages so they become more professional over time. Yeah, the first thing someone throws down might not be great but at least it is something, and someone else can step in and make a change to fix or improve it. Everything is logged, everyone can look and see who changed what, and if there is a dispute then the admin can overrule in order to keep the direction in accord with their views of what is professional. This approach would accelerate the creation of the beywiki, and perhaps get more people involved as some people may write content, others post pictures, others correct grammar, others add links to other pages, etc. There are a lot of people that like to help out in different ways.

(Dec. 09, 2010  5:05 PM)Ellume Wrote: I guess I was unclear on this point. What I ment to say is not break each beyblade into separate wiki pages, but split up the work for each beyblade. Using the current system, instead of one person submitting a draft for an entire beyblade, a person could submit a draft for a particular part of the beyblade. Then the page could be made more like a standard wiki with the possibility of multiple authors. So I'm saying keep the same format your using for the beyblade pages, just break up the work done on it into smaller parts so the pages can be completed faster.

I would actually encourage a different system rather then submitting drafts on the forum, which can be rather slow and be the cause of confusion or wasted effort (people putting in a fair bit of work writing up a beyblade that someone else is also working on). And take an approach used by a lot of wikis of have everyone be able to "improve" a page, but have an administrator(s)/overseer(s) who governs changes, undo poor changes, and otherwise manage the pages so they become more professional over time. Yeah, the first thing someone throws down might not be great but at least it is something, and someone else can step in and make a change to fix or improve it. Everything is logged, everyone can look and see who changed what, and if there is a dispute then the admin can overrule in order to keep the direction in accord with their views of what is professional. This approach would accelerate the creation of the beywiki, and perhaps get more people involved as some people may write content, others post pictures, others correct grammar, others add links to other pages, etc. There are a lot of people that like to help out in different ways.