(Dec. 31, 2010  5:56 PM)Bluezee Wrote: Libra CH120RF is clearly an attack type. That is what makes this all confusing. RF is used for attack meaning that the combo is an attack type if it moves as such. It was only labeled as a balance type based on a lack for a better term atm because Brad did not know what to call it. It has been shown to be an attacker. Libra may provide stamina but that is like saying just because flame has more stamina than storm on RF, Flame___100RF is more inclined to be a balance type than Storm___100RF. Attack is attack IMO. Also, if that is the case, then are you saying that something like Burn GB145RF is a balance combo? I mean, just as you said with Libra, it provides stamina, weight which could be used to say its for defense, and RF provides attack. Is that your logic?

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:07 PM)OkiBlaze Wrote:

(Dec. 31, 2010  5:56 PM)Bluezee Wrote: Libra CH120RF is clearly an attack type. That is what makes this all confusing. RF is used for attack meaning that the combo is an attack type if it moves as such. It was only labeled as a balance type based on a lack for a better term atm because Brad did not know what to call it. It has been shown to be an attacker. Libra may provide stamina but that is like saying just because flame has more stamina than storm on RF, Flame___100RF is more inclined to be a balance type than Storm___100RF. Attack is attack IMO. Also, if that is the case, then are you saying that something like Burn GB145RF is a balance combo? I mean, just as you said with Libra, it provides stamina, weight which could be used to say its for defense, and RF provides attack. Is that your logic?

Libra CH120RF is NOT a pure attack type. It acts like one. There's a difference.

All of these other combos you're throwing at me have no relevance unless they're tested correctly. Types cannot be determined purely by their parts. The difference between Burn GB145RF and Libra CH120RF is this: Libra has proven to work. Pull out some results on that combo on all three types and then we'll see. You cannot speculate anything without tests to back it up. This was why Libra CH120RF was labeled a Balance type in the first place.

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:16 PM)Dan Wrote: Instead of you guys raging about this, why not call Libra CH120RF a balanced type?

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:22 PM)Dan Wrote: Make an announcement or a sticky, making it very clear to all new users?

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:13 PM)Bluezee Wrote: Do I need to show you proof that Libra CH120RF was not intentionally labeled as balance? I mean, if that is what you want, I can get you that. I'll test the Burn combo as well. This is why I made my thread in the first place because none of this makes sense. You just said I can not compare CS to RF because CS was not intended to be a pure attack type as you say but RF is. Does that not mean that would make any combo that uses RF, which is CLEARLY intended to be used for attack, an attack type?

Bey Brad Wrote:I designed this combo when trying to think of a "tier-killer"; essentially, a Beyblade that can beat the top Beyblades from all three types.

BeyWiki Wrote:Attack is a Beyblade type used to classify aggressive Beyblades that battle by hitting the opponent repeatedly in order to stop them from spinning or to knock them out of the Beystadium. Attack-type Beyblades often have flat tips, sometimes made out of rubber in order to increase their speed. They generally attack using projections for Smash Attack or slopes for Upper Attack.

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:25 PM)OkiBlaze Wrote:

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:13 PM)Bluezee Wrote: Do I need to show you proof that Libra CH120RF was not intentionally labeled as balance? I mean, if that is what you want, I can get you that. I'll test the Burn combo as well. This is why I made my thread in the first place because none of this makes sense. You just said I can not compare CS to RF because CS was not intended to be a pure attack type as you say but RF is. Does that not mean that would make any combo that uses RF, which is CLEARLY intended to be used for attack, an attack type?

Libra CH120RF wasn't intended for Balance?

Bey Brad Wrote:I designed this combo when trying to think of a "tier-killer"; essentially, a Beyblade that can beat the top Beyblades from all three types.

I never said that RF is a pure attack type bottom, but it is. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that everything with an RF is going to be an attack type.

Seriously, if you don't know how to differentiate between types, go to the BeyWiki. I'll save you the time.

BeyWiki Wrote:Attack is a Beyblade type used to classify aggressive Beyblades that battle by hitting the opponent repeatedly in order to stop them from spinning or to knock them out of the Beystadium. Attack-type Beyblades often have flat tips, sometimes made out of rubber in order to increase their speed. They generally attack using projections for Smash Attack or slopes for Upper Attack.

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(Dec. 31, 2010  6:32 PM)Bluezee Wrote: Libra clearly has gaps and protrusions large enough to produce recoil which in turn, makes it usable for attack. Just like Burn, Virgo, etc. So now does that make it an attack type. I know how to differentiate between types. It is just that this current metagame is confusing and unorganized. Is a pure attack bottom for attack types or not? Or are you trying to tell me that if someone were to come up with some combo that uses RF for defense, although it is CLEARLY an attack bottom, its purpose would suddenly change?

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:38 PM)OkiBlaze Wrote:

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:32 PM)Bluezee Wrote: Libra clearly has gaps and protrusions large enough to produce recoil which in turn, makes it usable for attack. Just like Burn, Virgo, etc. So now does that make it an attack type. I know how to differentiate between types. It is just that this current metagame is confusing and unorganized. Is a pure attack bottom for attack types or not? Or are you trying to tell me that if someone were to come up with some combo that uses RF for defense, although it is CLEARLY an attack bottom, its purpose would suddenly change?

Dark has gaps. I think I'll use it for attack.
Small gaps like those on Libra don't transform a defense wheel into an attack one.

A pure attack type bottom adds attack-like movement. Just because it's an excellent attack type bottom doesn't mean it can't benefit other categories, which brings us back to CS. Every bottom can have different uses for attack, defense and stamina. It's just the way the player utilizes that part.

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:32 PM)Bluezee Wrote: arguing with a good member

(Dec. 31, 2010  10:06 PM)Mc Frown Wrote: It seems like people just used Bearing Core 2.

(Dec. 31, 2010  8:39 PM)Mc Frown Wrote:

(Dec. 31, 2010  6:32 PM)Bluezee Wrote: arguing with a good member

With all the ridiculous dissagreements you seem to have with all of the notable users on this board, did you ever think something might just be wrong with your ideas or your logic?
Or is every veteran on the entire board an idiot?


food for thought

(Dec. 31, 2010  9:05 PM)Daegor42 Wrote: *cough*

Wasn't Grip Core used for defense back in HMS?

(Dec. 31, 2010  10:23 PM)Mc Frown Wrote: because i stricty enforce the tier list and have never made any attempt to change it

(Dec. 31, 2010  10:36 PM)Kai-V Wrote: You two really need to stop. This is not even on-topic.

(Dec. 31, 2010  10:30 PM)Bluezee Wrote: So are you saying that makes you notable? If so, thats a lie. Remember your C145 rants? You know, the one that failed and you continue to rant on and on about it for that desperate need for attention to be fulfilled in some way? Thats not making an attempt to change anything?

(Dec. 31, 2010  10:42 PM)Daegor42 Wrote:

(Dec. 31, 2010  10:30 PM)Bluezee Wrote: So are you saying that makes you notable? If so, thats a lie. Remember your C145 rants? You know, the one that failed and you continue to rant on and on about it for that desperate need for attention to be fulfilled in some way? Thats not making an attempt to change anything?

That was sarcasm Bluezee.

If you're still having issues with each other, take it to PMs. Not everybody (in fact, probably nobody) wants to see a giant arguement again.