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Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Scarletboy267 - Aug. 19, 2024 If I enter a tournament am I able to do specific launch techniques as long as I am perfectly able to launch at the correct time and am not outside my allowed zone of launching? For example in order to reduce my beyblade from launching off target and to off set the force of my stronger arm I hold the launcher away from the stadium and at my side until it's time to launch. I rotate my right arm forward and counter clockwise with my pullstring in my left hand and I stop my right arm rotation and pull out with my left hand simultaneously at the let it rip mark. I learned this technique when training as a child in Iaido. I was left handed and was more comfortable unsheathing the katana from the saya on my right side with my left hand. I needed to still do the correct kata like everyone else. This is the same with beyblade as the launcher handle is being held by my right hand but a right rotation beyblade will offset from a left hand pull so rotating to my left will counter act the opposite force and create balance. I've tried it other ways with stationary launches but this seems to he the best option to perfect the launch. So my question is again. Is it legal to hold the launcher away from the stadium if I launch it where I am supposed to and at the same time as my opponent by the let it rip mark? Can replace "let it rip" with "go shoot" RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Ginsu_Weaver - Aug. 19, 2024 I've been going through the WBO rules for the last couple of days and they haven't really said anything about launch techiques that I've seen so far but I have a lot of information to go over. Going to the Rules and doing a ctrl+f to open a find popup, you can search for works like launch and technique to see what you can find. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Scarletboy267 - Aug. 19, 2024 (Aug. 19, 2024 7:33 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote: I've been going through the WBO rules for the last couple of days and they haven't really said anything about launch techiques that I've seen so far but I have a lot of information to go over. Going to the Rules and doing a ctrl+f to open a find popup, you can search for works like launch and technique to see what you can find. From what I've been able to find it just says this. "Both Bladers must be kneeling on the floor adjacent from each other at the Beystadium. If under some circumstance the BeyStadium must be placed on a table, both Bladers are to stand adjacent to each other. • The point at which the Beyblade leaves the shooter must be no further than 30 cm away from the BeyStadium. • The Bladers count down, "3! 2! 1! Go Shoot!" For a launch to be legal, the Beyblade must be launched as the word "shoot" is called." My launch technique still doesn't violate this. As long as I am kneeling or standing Ajacent. I will at the time as my opponent of launch my shooter at 3, 2, 1, go shoot! I will be no further than 30 cm away front the stadium. I think the only concern is the referee worried about my skill issue. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Ginsu_Weaver - Aug. 20, 2024 (Aug. 19, 2024 11:01 PM)Scarletboy267 Wrote:Then I think you should be good, though I'm curious to see this launch technique. You should record a video of it and throw it up on youtube to share with the rest of us.(Aug. 19, 2024 7:33 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote: I've been going through the WBO rules for the last couple of days and they haven't really said anything about launch techiques that I've seen so far but I have a lot of information to go over. Going to the Rules and doing a ctrl+f to open a find popup, you can search for works like launch and technique to see what you can find. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - RalfBalf - Aug. 20, 2024 (Aug. 19, 2024 6:58 AM)Scarletboy267 Wrote: If I enter a tournament am I able to do specific launch techniques as long as I am perfectly able to launch at the correct time and am not outside my allowed zone of launching? I don't think it's explicitly legal or illegal, but most judges would make sure both bladers have their launchers over the stadium before launching and making sure they stay over the stadium or stadium opening. Most launch techniques are simple tilts and slight adjustments in position, so this is a really unique case. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Dan - Aug. 21, 2024 From a technical standpoint as long as a launch techniques adheres to pretty basic rules that you've referenced yourself, the rulebook says it is legal: 1. Keep your Launcher held within your KO half of the BeyStadium. Never attempt to obstruct your opponent’s launch. 2. Bladers cannot shoot their Beyblade onto the opponent's Beyblade mid-air. 3. Bladers must keep their Beyblade within 20cm of the Stadium floor/Battle Zone for the duration of their launch. However, if you are launching a certain Beyblade in a way an Organizer is uncomfortable with (ex. a pointed metal tip thrown straight down) they have the right to correct you and ensure you launch in a way that doesn't pose an undue/unreasonable threat to the condition of the stadium. The rulebook would say hurling your Beyblade straight down within 20cm of the stadium floor is fine, but the reality of the matter is that technique would eventually (if not immediately) damage the stadium you are playing on. Organizers are passionate enthusiasts usually using their own supplies to facilitate their events, so they (along with community members that lend out equipment) should have complete control over what is allowed to happen to their possessions. This a rule that is practiced everywhere and goes hand-in-hand with basic decency towards other people's property we see pretty much everywhere else in society. I don't think there is a specific rule for this instance of Organizer launch correction in our books, but I also think it is a bad sign if we absolutely need that to dissuade certain players from behaving in an appropriate manner at Organizer Events. We have other rules (ex. Metal Needle, Metal Sharp bans) that also aim to mitigate harm done to Organizer/Player possessions. Basically.. Use common sense and be reasonable with your launch and you'll never have an issue. If you do, and a Judge or Organizer ask you to stop launching in a specific way, accept it for the duration of the Event and try to work it out with them later. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Scarletboy267 - Aug. 21, 2024 (Aug. 20, 2024 1:27 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote:(Aug. 19, 2024 11:01 PM)Scarletboy267 Wrote: From what I've been able to find it just says this.Then I think you should be good, though I'm curious to see this launch technique. You should record a video of it and throw it up on youtube to share with the rest of us. Yeah sure I can do that I'll be getting my phone tripod soon. (Aug. 21, 2024 1:31 PM)Dan Wrote: From a technical standpoint as long as a launch techniques adheres to pretty basic rules that you've referenced yourself, the rulebook says it is legal: Wait, you can damage the stadium? I definitely haven't used a metal tip cause I didn't think I could do that. I've launch beyblade over and over and there are blemishes from scrapes but nothing more than cosmetic. At the .most you can see all the surface trails but no dents or holes. Thats not my life. That being said I'd definitely respect the wishes of someone's stuff I was using. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Ginsu_Weaver - Aug. 22, 2024 Awesome, the people I'm planning meetups with have been talking about launch technics among other things so having a new launch technique to share will be fun. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Scarletboy267 - Aug. 23, 2024 (Aug. 22, 2024 1:27 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote: Awesome, the people I'm planning meetups with have been talking about launch technics among other things so having a new launch technique to share will be fun. https://youtu.be/pVCaXY2D38Q?feature=shared Here is my launch hope you enjoy it. 😁 I hope it's allowed it works so well for me. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - #BladerZ - Aug. 24, 2024 That launch is sick! 🤯 Seems legal to me; the bey isn’t being pushed sideways or downward. Seriously though, that put a smile on my face. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Scarletboy267 - Aug. 25, 2024 (Aug. 24, 2024 10:18 PM)#BladerZ Wrote: That launch is sick! 🤯 Thank you very much I find it help stabilizes left hand launches with right spin beyblades. It is completely volitile with left spins though. I am glad I could make you smile. I have a few more to show as well that can help with certain things. I will make a different post for it though. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Ginsu_Weaver - Aug. 26, 2024 (Aug. 23, 2024 2:50 AM)Scarletboy267 Wrote:(Aug. 22, 2024 1:27 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote: Awesome, the people I'm planning meetups with have been talking about launch technics among other things so having a new launch technique to share will be fun. I would say it is legal to an extent, it's a nice launch and if you can get it consistently without your zone when launching then it's good, but there are some tournaments that require you to have it over the launch point the whole time so always ask before the tournament begins. Outside of that though, pretty awesome technique. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Scarletboy267 - Aug. 27, 2024 (Aug. 26, 2024 1:45 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote:(Aug. 23, 2024 2:50 AM)Scarletboy267 Wrote: https://youtu.be/pVCaXY2D38Q?feature=shared I guess when I go to one I'll have to find out. 🤓 I will always be practicing to keep it accurate and efficient. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Ginsu_Weaver - Aug. 27, 2024 (Aug. 27, 2024 3:15 AM)Scarletboy267 Wrote:(Aug. 26, 2024 1:45 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote: I would say it is legal to an extent, it's a nice launch and if you can get it consistently without your zone when launching then it's good, but there are some tournaments that require you to have it over the launch point the whole time so always ask before the tournament begins. Outside of that though, pretty awesome technique. If you can't find tournaments near you, find people who are interested and get some going. Reach out to local game shops to see if they'd let you host tournaments at their store. It's what I did with a few here and we have more then 45 people and our second meetup is this weekend. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Scarletboy267 - Aug. 27, 2024 (Aug. 27, 2024 6:43 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote:(Aug. 27, 2024 3:15 AM)Scarletboy267 Wrote: I guess when I go to one I'll have to find out. 🤓 I will always be practicing to keep it accurate and efficient. That's awesome! Gooo you 👏 that's really exciting 😀 I feel proud of you right now. RE: Legal or not ? Different launching techniques during tournaments. - Ginsu_Weaver - Aug. 28, 2024 (Aug. 27, 2024 9:58 PM)Scarletboy267 Wrote:(Aug. 27, 2024 6:43 PM)Ginsu_Weaver Wrote: If you can't find tournaments near you, find people who are interested and get some going. Reach out to local game shops to see if they'd let you host tournaments at their store. It's what I did with a few here and we have more then 45 people and our second meetup is this weekend. It is really exciting and just shows there are people out there, you just need to find them and advertise your willingness to hope. Flyers at local game and hobbie shops are a great way to get that out there (With permission of course.) |