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The Evolution of Right-Spin Attack in DB/BU BST testing - Mr. Memes - Dec. 21, 2022
Throughout the span of Beyblade Burst DB/BU, we were given numerous releases, but more importantly a lot more right spin releases for attack types. This is significant as some of these releases such as Ultimate and Xiphoid have helped prevent the BST meta not become completely stamina-oriented compared to Superking. In this thread, I am recording testing of the right-spin attack layers such as Savior, Ultimate, Xiphoid, Superking M, Superking R, and maybe Zeal if someone wants me to test it.
First Test MU: Savior Belial 2 Karma Quick'-3 VS Dynamite+F Belial3 Over Bearing Drift-9
Battle 1: KO by Savior
Video: https://imgur.com/a/qyGqVm8
Battle 2:KO by Dynamite+F
Video: https://imgur.com/a/JVsMQLF
Battle 3: Draw due to double Burst Finish
Video: https://imgur.com/a/RYr6XdO
Battle 4: Draw due to double Burst Finish
Video: https://imgur.com/a/aHw27Ov
Battle 5: OS by Dynamte+F
Video: https://imgur.com/a/xk0aLPU
Dyna+F win rate: 67%
Savior win rate: 33%
Though mold differences and different cores/discs may make a difference, Savior's recoil still poses a problem in terms of burst resistance and it may even backfire in some instances along with being dependent on getting lucky with hits makes it struggle in the current DB/BU meta though it can be a surprise pick in deck format where one may not expect it. I will also make sure to put up testing against opposite spin stamina and defense.
RE: The Evolution of Right-Spin Attack in DB/BU BST testing - Mr. Memes - Dec. 24, 2022
Second Test MU: Ultimate Belial 2 Nexus+D Quick'-3 VS Dynamite+F Belial3 Over Bearing Drift-9
Battle 1: KO by Ultimate
Video: https://imgur.com/a/1H79W0O
Battle 2:KO by Ultimate
Video: https://imgur.com/a/lnn2vy0
Battle 3: Dyna+F KOs Ultimate
Video: https://imgur.com/a/HccqDVH
Battle 4: OS by Dyna+F
Video: https://imgur.com/a/qBsh8PP
Battle 5: KO by Ultimate
Video: https://imgur.com/a/BUq17cR
Battle 6: OS by Dyna+F
Video: https://imgur.com/a/73uOHXi
Battle 7:KO by Ultimate
Video: https://imgur.com/a/b04LLnB
Battle 8: Ultimate OS at 0:19 mark
Video: https://imgur.com/a/FGl6OaP
Battle 9: OS by Dyna+F
Video: https://imgur.com/a/310tpNd
Battle 10: KO by Ultimate
Video: https://imgur.com/a/L8HZoY6
Ultimate win rate: 60%
Dyna+F win rate: 40%
Throughout the previous testing, Ultimate really needs either Nexus+S or Nexus+D to really make its hits more consistent compared to other attack types in DB/BU, but it doesn't suffer from the severe recoil Savior experiences with large hits. However, Ultimate can be difficult to use in Attack VS Attack MUs, especially against Guilty and Xiphoid who can afford to have more customization options and still have consistent results in other MUs. However, Ultimate is still a decent Right-Spin attack option if one does not want to replace multiple Xiphoids or wants to run more than one attack option in the deck. Be aware that the white Ultimate Valkyrie mold has softer rubber which will reduce its ability to hit hard.
For future testings, I will stick to 10 battles since I find it gives more consistent and accurate results. Also, I am planning on doing updated testing on Savior after I posted testing results on Xiphoid since I felt I didn't use an optimized setup for it and the results reflect it.
RE: The Evolution of Right-Spin Attack in DB/BU BST testing - Jiyuu - Dec. 24, 2022
Can you also test out Gatling with Illegal/Spread' disk just in case?
RE: The Evolution of Right-Spin Attack in DB/BU BST testing - Mr. Memes - Dec. 24, 2022
(Dec. 24, 2022 4:07 PM)Jiyuu Wrote: Can you also test out Gatling with Illegal/Spread' disk just in case?
I suppose I could for the sake of the release though most ppl find super niche uses for Gatling for either right spin stamina or the rarely seen combo of Gatling on Moon High Wave’.
RE: The Evolution of Right-Spin Attack in DB/BU BST testing - Mr. Memes - Jan. 11, 2023
Third Test MU: Xiphoid Kerbeus Giga Metal Xtreme-10VS Dynamite+F Belial2 Over Bearing Drift-9
Battle 1: OS by Dyna+F
Video: https://imgur.com/a/nQIttoq
Battle 2:KO by Xiphoid
Video: https://imgur.com/a/R8Hf3xp
Battle 3: KO by Xiphoid
Video: https://imgur.com/a/TFPFEEf
Battle 4: Wall bounce by Xiphoid
Video: https://imgur.com/a/g4G8Q7j
Battle 5: KO by Xiphoid
Video: https://imgur.com/a/XAhF8dk
Battle 6: KO by Xiphoid
Video: https://imgur.com/a/xWALi9t
Battle 7
S by Dyna+FVideo: https://imgur.com/a/asN8v4D
Battle 8: KO by Xiphoid
Video: https://imgur.com/a/EaoFd87
Battle 9: KO by Dyna+F
Video: https://imgur.com/a/uczBnIv
Battle 10: Burst Finish by Xiphoid
Video: https://imgur.com/a/L8HZoY6
Xiphoid win rate: 70%
Dyna+F win rate: 30%
Throughout the previous testing, while the win rate suggests that Xiphoid is barely better than Ultimate, its overall shape and contact provide it with much more explosive impact that can make it very dangerous to use against right spin stamina and attack vs attack matchups. However, its skill ceiling is a bit higher than the other options as it can be prone to self-KOs or even getting KO from poor launch positioning as seen in Battle 9. The contact points are also prone to wear if used extensively and it's required to have multiple copies of Xiphoid if you want to use it in a tournament.