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Vise Leopard CHAD - Aiiro Hyouma - Mar. 17, 2022
Salve a tutti!!!
Sono Aiiro Hyōma e amo i leopardi😍
... quindi mi chiedevo: dato che ci sono 3 versioni di Vise Leopard, come posso renderele davvero CHAD?
vL.12L.Ds (il tipo di attacco)
vL.4.Yr (il tipo Difesa)
vL.1'P.Op (il tipo Balance)
PS
cosa ne pensi di:
vise Leopard 7 bump destroy;
morsa Leopard 7 croce atomica;
vise Leopard 0 bump yard;
Pezzi di Revive Phoenix;
un tipo di resistenza di Vise Leopard (con gomma forse)?
RE: Vise Leopard CHAD - DeceasedCrab - Mar. 17, 2022
Alright, in an effort to get you to stop making new threads and posts about Vise Leopard, I'm going to very carefully try to address the elephant in the room, hopefully without breaking the rules.
Vise Leopard is not a good layer. It has never been a good layer. It's gimmick has never worked. It has bad stamina. It has bad attack. It's defense is Just Okay. There are numerous other Cho-Z layers which are better in terms of everything.
You like Vise Leopard. I get that. Cool. I'm glad you like it. We can't make it good. It has been 3 years since Cho-Z ended and it has not stood the test of time. Even in formats like Burst Limited I would have serious doubts about it's ability to do well. I think even Emperor Forneus is going to do better on both Stamina and Defense.
I wish you luck in trying to make it good, but you have an uphill battle here. Consider using modern dash drivers, and heavier discs like Outer or Wheel.
RE: Vise Leopard CHAD - DragoonGalaxy15 - Mar. 18, 2022
(Mar. 17, 2022 3:01 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Alright, in an effort to get you to stop making new threads and posts about Vise Leopard, I'm going to very carefully try to address the elephant in the room, hopefully without breaking the rules.
Vise Leopard is not a good layer. It has never been a good layer. It's gimmick has never worked. It has bad stamina. It has bad attack. It's defense is Just Okay. There are numerous other Cho-Z layers which are better in terms of everything.
You like Vise Leopard. I get that. Cool. I'm glad you like it. We can't make it good. It has been 3 years since Cho-Z ended and it has not stood the test of time. Even in formats like Burst Limited I would have serious doubts about it's ability to do well. I think even Emperor Forneus is going to do better on both Stamina and Defense.
I wish you luck in trying to make it good, but you have an uphill battle here. Consider using modern dash drivers, and heavier discs like Outer or Wheel.
it might be good on Keep'?
RE: Vise Leopard CHAD - DeceasedCrab - Mar. 18, 2022
(Mar. 18, 2022 12:18 AM)DragoonGalaxy15 Wrote: it might be good on Keep'?
It might be Thoroughly Mediocre on Keep'. Keep' can turn almost anything into a very defensive layer, but at the cost of most stamina and attack. Could a Vise Leopard on Keep' survive against a Cho-Z attack type like ChoZ Valkyrie or maybe Cho-Z Achilles? Possibly. Could it survive against Winning Valkyrie? Probably. Could it survive against a Judgement even on Keep'? More modern beys? Heck no.
Could it beat most anything else Cho-Z and above? Probably not.
Its time hasn't come and gone, its time never was. It has always been a fairly mediocre choice amongst a lot of better choices. Is it possible for it to win in certain situations? Yes. Is it likely? No.
RE: Vise Leopard CHAD - DragoonGalaxy15 - Mar. 18, 2022
(Mar. 18, 2022 4:35 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:(Mar. 18, 2022 12:18 AM)DragoonGalaxy15 Wrote: it might be good on Keep'?
It might be Thoroughly Mediocre on Keep'. Keep' can turn almost anything into a very defensive layer, but at the cost of most stamina and attack. Could a Vise Leopard on Keep' survive against a Cho-Z attack type like ChoZ Valkyrie or maybe Cho-Z Achilles? Possibly. Could it survive against Winning Valkyrie? Probably. Could it survive against a Judgement even on Keep'? More modern beys? Heck no.
Could it beat most anything else Cho-Z and above? Probably not.
Its time hasn't come and gone, its time never was. It has always been a fairly mediocre choice amongst a lot of better choices. Is it possible for it to win in certain situations? Yes. Is it likely? No.
makes sense. i never said Vice was good, just suggesting
RE: Vise Leopard CHAD - Aiiro Hyouma - Mar. 24, 2022
(Mar. 17, 2022 3:01 PM)Granchio morto Wrote: Va bene, nel tentativo di far smettere di fare nuove sessioni e post su Vise Leopard, cercherò con attenzione di affrontare l'elefante nella stanza, si spera senza infrangere le regole.
Vise Leopard non è un buon livello. Non è mai stato un buon livello. L'espediente non ha mai funzionato. Ha una cattiva resistenza. Ha un brutto attacco. La sua difesa va bene. Ci sono numerosi altri livelli Cho-Z che sono migliori in termini di tutto.
Ti piace Vise Leopard. Lo capisco. Freddo. Sono felice che ti piaccia. Non possiamo farcela bene. Sono passati 3 anni dalla fine di Cho-Z e non ha resistito alla prova del tempo. Anche in formati come Burst Limited dovrei essere doppiato sulla sua capacità di fare bene. Penso che anche l'imperatore Forneus farà meglio sia in resistenza che in difesa.
Ti auguro buona fortuna nel tentativo di rendere buono, ma hai una battaglia in salita qui. Prendi in considerazione l'utilizzo di driver da cruscotto moderni e dischi più pesanti come Outer o Wheel.
come potrebbe essere trasformato per renderlo migliore?