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Abyss Testing and Discussion - AirKingNeo - Mar. 04, 2022
No commentary from me.
Same Spin:
Abyss Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ 1S vs Lord Fafnir.00Cross.Xtend+ (Left)
(Simultaneous launch)
ALn.00C.Xt+ 1S: 7 wins (7 OS)
LF.00C.Xt+: 3 wins (3 OS)
Ties: 0 ties
Abyss Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ 1S vs Tact Fafnir.00Cross.Xtend+ Zan
(Simultaneous launch)
ALn.00C.Xt+ 1S: 9 wins (9 OS)
TF.00C.Xt+ Zan: 1 win (1 OS)
Ties: 0 ties
Abyss Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ 1S vs Master Spriggan.00Cross.Xtend+ (Left)
(Simultaneous launch)
ALn.00C.Xt+ 1S: 4 wins (4 OS)
MS.00C.Xt+: 6 wins (6 OS)
Ties: 0 ties
(Both destabilized each other a lot. You could really call these layers evenly matched.)
Abyss Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ 1S vs Naked Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ Zan
(Simultaneous launch)
ALn.00C.Xt+ 1S: 3 wins (3 OS)
NL.00C.Xt+ Zan: 7 wins (7 OS)
Ties: 0 ties
And an extra test of Master vs Naked because I was curious:
Master Spriggan.00Cross.Xtend+ (Left) vs Naked Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ Zan
(Simultaneous launch)
MS.00C.Xt+: 9 wins (9 OS)
NL.00C.Xt+ Zan: 1 win (1 OS)
Ties: 0 ties
Opposite Spin:
Abyss Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ 1S vs Heaven Dragon2.00Cross.Xtend+ Zan
(Alternating launches)
ALn.00C.Xt+ 1S: 5 wins (5 OS)
HDr2.00C.Xt+ Zan: 5 wins (5 OS)
Ties: 3 ties
Abyss Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ 1S vs Perfect Phoenix.00Cross.Xtend+
(Alternating launches)
ALn.00C.Xt+ 1S: 1 win (1 OS)
pP.00C.Xt+: 9 wins (9 OS)
Ties: 1 tie
Armor off: 5 rounds
Vs Attack:
Abyss Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ 1S vs Zwei Spriggan.Sting.Quick' Goku
(Zwei launched second)
ALn.00C.Xt+ 1S: 0 wins
ZS.St.Qc' Goku: 10 wins (6 OS, 4 KO)
Ties: 0 ties
Abyss Longinus.00Cross.Xtend+ 1S vs Judgement (worn) Ashura.Around (JWv Painted).Quick' Goku
(Judgement launched second)
ALn.00C.Xt+ 1S: 4 wins (3 OS, 1 KO)
JA.Ar.Qc' Goku: 6 wins (6 KO)
Ties: 0 ties
RE: Abyss Testing and Discussion - th!nk - Mar. 04, 2022
Thanks for this - always nice to see a thorough and well formatted testing thread! I will try to get some additional tests done for you here too. I wonder if tact layer weights matter (ie if Goku would prevent Abyss grinding some, or if the effect on the gimmick would do worse).
Maybe also chuck the master vs naked tests in the random test thread just for body of data reasons, if you feel like it
I will say I have not been blown away by Abyss on Dr, Ig' or X' myself. Can kinda get it working on Almight+S+V as some kinda weight defense against Judgement but it's not hugely practical.
Okay, got some testing done. I went with Wave because a) I have two of them and b) it's tall, which is generally good for wide layers (Tact for example). It's not an amazing driver, but it's a decent test bed for comparison and should provide a nice complement to the Xt+ tests! Obviously I'd rather use two hybrids or ignitions but one of my hybrids is no longer sharp and one is mint, and I only have one Ig'.
Abyss Spriggan Wheel(Hasbro,2*) Wave 1S vs Tact Longinus Wheel(Hasbro, 2*) Wave Goku
Results (Click to View)
Tact: 80% (5OS, 2BST, 1KO)
Abyss can't do much to Tact here. Tact is heavy enough with Goku to ignore grinding attempts and at this height keeps balance well.
Abyss Spriggan Wheel(Hasbro,2*) Wave 1S vs Master(L) Spriggan Wheel(Hasbro, 2*) Wave
Results (Click to View)
Master(L): 50% (5OS)
Dead 50/50 match up. The matches weren't always close but both could throw the other off balance the same amount of the time. They felt very evenly matched.
Abyss Spriggan Wheel(Hasbro,2*) Wave 1S vs Naked Longinus Wheel(Hasbro, 2*) Wave Goku
Results (Click to View)
Naked: 60% (5OS, 1KO)
Naked would have been a lot better as it was basically immune to grinding... Except I couldn't get it to balance right at this height 😥
And take this one with some salt, I had to use Wave' on Wizard as I only have the bad mold, and the matches were kinda wild, it really felt even:
Abyss Spriggan Wheel(Hasbro,2*) Wave 1S vs Wizard (Bad Mold) Longinus Wheel(Hasbro, 2*) Wave' Goku
Results (Click to View)
Wizard: 60% (4OS, 1BST, 1KO)