(Apr. 13, 2022  11:31 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:

(Apr. 13, 2022  11:22 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: His not wrong you just didnt specify to Ghost how you want the powerscaling he/she give you an overall scaling without detail but its not a wrong lost he/she just already has the general scaling of them without giving you the details . If he/She didn’t give it thats on you its like you ask how strong is superman and the tell you his multiverse level without giving you his feats to what makes him mutiversal if your Not specific your the one to be blame, not ghost Nor Admiral just ask Ghost to detail it and thats it

Fair point. Yea I even said I was partially to blame for not being specific enough. I guess we should end this convo.

(Apr. 13, 2022  11:41 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: To try getting this thread under control, I'll be stating the Top 5 Battles in SuperKing. Why am I doing this? Because the Anime is terrible and it'll be easier on my brain.

6. Hyuga (Super Hyperion) Vs. Valt (Brave Valkyrie) #2: Really cool. Clone Battle and Cool Moves. Sport's Counter?! ew.

5. Hikaru (King Helios) Vs. Rantaro (Glide Ragnaruk) #2. Severely underrated. Actually better than most battles in this season.

4. Valt and Rantaro (Brave Valkyrie/Glide Ragnaruk) Vs. Hyuga and Hikaru (Helios Volcano/Hyperion Burn) #2: Amazing Battle. Brothers Teamwork Development. FINALLY! It took you 50 Episodes?!

3. Hyuga and Hikaru (Hyperion Burn/Helios Volcano) Vs. Shu and Lean (Lucifer the End and World Spriggan) #2: Amazing Animations! Bladers Fighting?! Plot Armor ruined it though...

2. Lui and Drum (Rage Longinus and Tempest Dragon) Vs. Free and Sisco (Mirage Fafnir and Curse Satan): Sisco Development?! Lui and Free Rival Ending?! This is Anime!!

Before we get to my opinion of the Best Battle of SuperKing. An Honorable Mention is probably the battle between Lean and Valt. (10 Words): Heated. Valt Development. Plot Armor... Grr!!

1. Shu and Lean (World Spriggan and Lucifer the End) Vs. Valt and Rantaro (Brave Valkyrie and Glide Ragnaruk): Valt Vs Shu!! Actual Strategy!! Rantaro Does something!!  Awesome!!

I know some of these Rankings may have shocked you or you may be unhappy with them but to be honest, most of the battles in Sparking were either rushed or Plot Armor overtook them which really ruined the season. I personally think that Hikaru should've been the only Main Character in this season since we've had too many Valt Rip-Offs in Beyblade Burst and Hikaru is the most different Protignest from Valt. Probably doing God next. That'll actually be a challenge

(Apr. 13, 2022  11:12 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:

(Apr. 13, 2022  10:52 PM)Admiral W Wrote: It absolutely is a power scale. Just not the one you wanted. Doesn't disqualify it as a power scale so no I wasn't wrong. Again you need to be clear in the future.

You were wrong it’s okay 😂

(Apr. 14, 2022  12:08 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Apr. 13, 2022  11:12 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: You were wrong it’s okay 😂

No. You simply don't understand that there's different kinds of power scales and you not being specific on what you wanted. That's on you not me.

(Apr. 13, 2022  11:41 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: To try getting this thread under control, I'll be stating the Top 5 Battles in SuperKing. Why am I doing this? Because the Anime is terrible and it'll be easier on my brain.

6. Hyuga (Super Hyperion) Vs. Valt (Brave Valkyrie) #2: Really cool. Clone Battle and Cool Moves. Sport's Counter?! ew.

5. Hikaru (King Helios) Vs. Rantaro (Glide Ragnaruk) #2. Severely underrated. Actually better than most battles in this season.

4. Valt and Rantaro (Brave Valkyrie/Glide Ragnaruk) Vs. Hyuga and Hikaru (Helios Volcano/Hyperion Burn) #2: Amazing Battle. Brothers Teamwork Development. FINALLY! It took you 50 Episodes?!

3. Hyuga and Hikaru (Hyperion Burn/Helios Volcano) Vs. Shu and Lean (Lucifer the End and World Spriggan) #2: Amazing Animations! Bladers Fighting?! Plot Armor ruined it though...

2. Lui and Drum (Rage Longinus and Tempest Dragon) Vs. Free and Sisco (Mirage Fafnir and Curse Satan): Sisco Development?! Lui and Free Rival Ending?! This is Anime!!

Before we get to my opinion of the Best Battle of SuperKing. An Honorable Mention is probably the battle between Lean and Valt. (10 Words): Heated. Valt Development. Plot Armor... Grr!!

1. Shu and Lean (World Spriggan and Lucifer the End) Vs. Valt and Rantaro (Brave Valkyrie and Glide Ragnaruk): Valt Vs Shu!! Actual Strategy!! Rantaro Does something!!  Awesome!!

I know some of these Rankings may have shocked you or you may be unhappy with them but to be honest, most of the battles in Sparking were either rushed or Plot Armor overtook them which really ruined the season. I personally think that Hikaru should've been the only Main Character in this season since we've had too many Valt Rip-Offs in Beyblade Burst and Hikaru is the most different Protignest from Valt. Probably doing God next. That'll actually be a challenge

(Apr. 14, 2022  2:54 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Delta and Gwyn character arc breakdowns coming soon.

(Apr. 14, 2022  3:01 AM)Phantom legend Wrote:

(Apr. 14, 2022  2:54 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Delta and Gwyn character arc breakdowns coming soon.

Looking forward to this break down. Perfect chance to learn more about Gwyn and his whole character.

(Apr. 14, 2022  3:10 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Apr. 14, 2022  3:01 AM)Phantom legend Wrote: Looking forward to this break down. Perfect chance to learn more about Gwyn and his whole character.

They gave him some interesting depth. One of the things I look at when deciding on a character whose arc I want to breakdown is for the personal growth aside from blading. I think Burst is unparalleled in that regard. They have characters that really grew on a personal relatable level not particularly connected to Blading. Ken learned to find connection, Daigo was haunted by his guilt over a serious mistake and had to work to overcome that, Silas just wanted to belong somewhere and searched for awhile to find such a place etc. Burst really excelled at that moreso than prior gens.

(Apr. 14, 2022  3:58 AM)Phantom legend Wrote: A example of this development that got me hooked was Valt and Shu. I absolutely love their rivalry.
I like how Valt didnt randomly just come in the fray and Shu is like welp your my rival now. I like how they were friends since the very beginning. Valt inspiring Shu to become a  blader then Building off that inspiration to become a pro blader himself. After becoming a pro blader and a Spin emperor it was his turn to inspire Valt. And through Shu’s inspiration Valt decided to take Blading more seriously as well wanting to show Shu just how strong he would get and wanting to give Shu the best battle he could ever ask for in the district and national finals. Shu was already a blader who pushed himself but When the nationals finally got around he pushed himself harder than before not just to beat Lui but to face Valt to fulfill their promise to meet in the finals. After the nationals with neither winning Shu went to the ranging Bulls to improve himself hoping that Valt would step up his game as well. Shu being Shu was dominating the team matches while Valt had a bit of troubling start but still grew stronger regardless. When Shu was reported ‘missing’ Valt put everything on hold just to find him but ran across someone else using Spriggan, that being “red eye” but little did Valt know he was staring Shu right in the face not knowing the the dark path he took. *one snake pit arc later* Valt and Red eye both improve their skills, which is shown by them both taking down members of the big 5. When Shu faces lui and his identity gets revealed Shu shows Valt just how much hes changed and Valt just watched in sadness as he couldnt do anything to help. When Shu goes to make requriem  he sees Valkyrie. Even though Hes defeated Valt twice before you can still tell he sees him as a rival and one of his strongest challenges. After creating the new spriggan shu is more darker than before now destroying every blader in his path and is too far gone. But even after Valts previous losses against Shu he still stood up to face him in the finals of the tournament just like they promised back then and was able to reach out to him in the final clash with Valt being Victorious and crowned as chmpion. Both bladers who started out on the same path who then split to become stronger through different means one through absolute power and one through fun and bonding decided. Both bladers meeting again once more to have their fated battle and walk on the same road once again.

(Apr. 14, 2022  4:03 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Apr. 14, 2022  3:58 AM)Phantom legend Wrote: A example of this development that got me hooked was Valt and Shu. I absolutely love their rivalry.
I like how Valt didnt randomly just come in the fray and Shu is like welp your my rival now. I like how they were friends since the very beginning. Valt inspiring Shu to become a  blader then Building off that inspiration to become a pro blader himself. After becoming a pro blader and a Spin emperor it was his turn to inspire Valt. And through Shu’s inspiration Valt decided to take Blading more seriously as well wanting to show Shu just how strong he would get and wanting to give Shu the best battle he could ever ask for in the district and national finals. Shu was already a blader who pushed himself but When the nationals finally got around he pushed himself harder than before not just to beat Lui but to face Valt to fulfill their promise to meet in the finals. After the nationals with neither winning Shu went to the ranging Bulls to improve himself hoping that Valt would step up his game as well. Shu being Shu was dominating the team matches while Valt had a bit of troubling start but still grew stronger regardless. When Shu was reported ‘missing’ Valt put everything on hold just to find him but ran across someone else using Spriggan, that being “red eye” but little did Valt know he was staring Shu right in the face not knowing the the dark path he took. *one snake pit arc later* Valt and Red eye both improve their skills, which is shown by them both taking down members of the big 5. When Shu faces lui and his identity gets revealed Shu shows Valt just how much hes changed and Valt just watched in sadness as he couldnt do anything to help. When Shu goes to make requriem  he sees Valkyrie. Even though Hes defeated Valt twice before you can still tell he sees him as a rival and one of his strongest challenges. After creating the new spriggan shu is more darker than before now destroying every blader in his path and is too far gone. But even after Valts previous losses against Shu he still stood up to face him in the finals of the tournament just like they promised back then and was able to reach out to him in the final clash with Valt being Victorious and crowned as chmpion. Both bladers who started out on the same path who then split to become stronger through different means one through absolute power and one through fun and bonding decided. Both bladers meeting again once more to have their fated battle and walk on the same road once again.

That's a good summary of it. I won't go into full detail here given that I plan to do a Valt character arc breakdown once I'm finished with the more overlooked characters, but through all of that Valt had to work to overcome his own self doubt and establish his own identity as a blader to fullfil his potential. I think some misunderstand Valt's arc as a character and his main theme. Valt's character theme is potential. From the very beginning people, especially Shu, took note of Valt's natural potential and through both seasons 1&2 we see Valt working to fullfil that potential and he has to work through his own self doubt and issues of identity to finally fulfill that untapped potential and he did wonderfully by finally defeating his greatest rival. It was almost like poetry In a way.

(Apr. 14, 2022  5:11 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: To be honest shu abd Valt probably has the best characters devolpment out of all the cast you get through point A and B. Than you Get Lui, Aiga, Delta and lastly Gwynn theue character arc is fully completed their evolutions. Free and sisco also got something going for them as well

(Apr. 13, 2022  9:25 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:

(Apr. 13, 2022  9:11 PM)Admiral W Wrote: You asked for a power ranking of burst characters and that's what they gave you. More clarity might be warranted in the future. I did read you just weren't particularly clear in your initial post.

Not bashing the dude who gave me the 1-10. I’m bashing you for saying “that looks like a power scale to me”. Clearly doesn’t. But you are right I should be more specific at first

(Apr. 14, 2022  5:27 PM)GhostFox Wrote:

(Apr. 13, 2022  9:25 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: Not bashing the dude who gave me the 1-10. I’m bashing you for saying “that looks like a power scale to me”. Clearly doesn’t. But you are right I should be more specific at first

Stop bashing each other guys...
also achilles, i've seen other posts of yours too and you need to chill a bit (just a friendly suggestion)