(May. 15, 2021  6:27 PM)PinkRose Wrote:

(May. 15, 2021  6:11 PM)JJustice Wrote: I wonder how ranzo is related to rantaro could be be like a cousin of a brother?

Most likely a distant cousin of sorts.

(May. 15, 2021  1:43 PM)g2_ Wrote:

(May. 15, 2021  12:22 AM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: Ok I feel like this needs to be addressed Valt Vs Lui the only reason Valt lost was because of that crack but the ref counts it as a burst I think that should be counted as I redo and before you say "What if the ref didn't know" the announcer literally announced it in front of the whole crowd and if the announcer can see from all the way up there then the ref can surely see it from right next to the stadium

Valt made the crack though.

(May. 15, 2021  4:47 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote:

(May. 15, 2021  1:43 PM)g2_ Wrote: Valt made the crack though.

Even so it was an accident so the ref could have pointed it out

(May. 16, 2021  1:42 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote:

(May. 15, 2021  1:43 PM)g2_ Wrote: Valt made the crack though.

Well that's Valt problem

(May. 16, 2021  2:30 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Doesn't really matter anymore. Valt surpassed Lui ages ago. He's been stronger than Lui for awhile now.

(May. 16, 2021  2:45 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  2:30 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Doesn't really matter anymore. Valt surpassed Lui ages ago. He's been stronger than Lui for awhile now.

If you are about his rank and status then ok. But if about power then I can't agree with you

(May. 16, 2021  2:45 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  2:30 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Doesn't really matter anymore. Valt surpassed Lui ages ago. He's been stronger than Lui for awhile now.

If you are about his rank and status then ok. But if about power then I can't agree with you

(May. 16, 2021  2:56 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  2:45 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: If you are about his rank and status then ok. But if about power then I can't agree with you

Valt has been stronger than him ever since the end of Evolution. That much is clear from Sparking and DB alone. By the end of Evolution, Valt had clearly surpassed him in power and status due to the simple fact Valt defeated Shu whereas Lui couldn't and was crowned World Champion. In addition, it was officially confirmed in Surge and DB that Valt is stronger. 

Surge: "A dominant presence in the world of Beyblade, Valt Aoi is hailed the greatest Blading legend on the planet and serves as an inspiration for legions of Bladers. But fame hasn’t gone to his head; he’s still the friendliest guy you’ll ever meet. Valt may be a household name, but he knows that even when you’re the best, there’s always something new to discover when it comes to Beyblade."

DB: "Known as the Legend of Legends, Valt Aoi is the Strongest Blader in the World. His sunny and larger-than-life presence never fails to make others smile. He's the gold-standard for Bladers everywhere. While battling around the world, he is also busy nuturing fresh talent."

What I don't understand really is why you always make such an effort to undermine Valt or to imply some particular blader is stronger than him when the facts don't support that.

(May. 16, 2021  3:30 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  2:45 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: If you are about his rank and status then ok. But if about power then I can't agree with you

Even basing it from the show valt is still shown stronger this can be examined in their battle against lean keep in mind both bader battle a different lean valt battle a max potential flare lean or somewhat around that phase while lui fought lean in the early stage flare lean. Valt one shots the Lucifer barrier while lui can't. That's for power now for strategy. The show has shown valt on multiple occasions having a better strategy than lui the most noticeable one is him out smarting Lean Limit break activation in the tag team tournament while yes lui did a strategy that prevents it from happening but at the end he fails. Now from source material in the bio for valt in Sparking they started that valt is rumored to be the strongest this claim was confirmed by his bio in DB. Even tho I don't like valt being stated as the world strongest in Burst universe but I can't deny that it's a fact.

(May. 16, 2021  3:30 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  2:45 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: If you are about his rank and status then ok. But if about power then I can't agree with you

Even basing it from the show valt is still shown stronger this can be examined in their battle against lean keep in mind both bader battle a different lean valt battle a max potential flare lean or somewhat around that phase while lui fought lean in the early stage flare lean. Valt one shots the Lucifer barrier while lui can't. That's for power now for strategy. The show has shown valt on multiple occasions having a better strategy than lui the most noticeable one is him out smarting Lean Limit break activation in the tag team tournament while yes lui did a strategy that prevents it from happening but at the end he fails. Now from source material in the bio for valt in Sparking they started that valt is rumored to be the strongest this claim was confirmed by his bio in DB. Even tho I don't like valt being stated as the world strongest in Burst universe but I can't deny that it's a fact.

(May. 16, 2021  3:30 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  2:56 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Valt has been stronger than him ever since the end of Evolution. That much is clear from Sparking and DB alone. By the end of Evolution, Valt had clearly surpassed him in power and status due to the simple fact Valt defeated Shu whereas Lui couldn't and was crowned World Champion. In addition, it was officially confirmed in Surge and DB that Valt is stronger. 

Surge: "A dominant presence in the world of Beyblade, Valt Aoi is hailed the greatest Blading legend on the planet and serves as an inspiration for legions of Bladers. But fame hasn’t gone to his head; he’s still the friendliest guy you’ll ever meet. Valt may be a household name, but he knows that even when you’re the best, there’s always something new to discover when it comes to Beyblade."

DB: "Known as the Legend of Legends, Valt Aoi is the Strongest Blader in the World. His sunny and larger-than-life presence never fails to make others smile. He's the gold-standard for Bladers everywhere. While battling around the world, he is also busy nuturing fresh talent."

What I don't understand really is why you always make such an effort to undermine Valt or to imply some particular blader is stronger than him when the facts don't support that.

Anime can go different from facts

(May. 16, 2021  3:40 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: It's not like I don't agree with that thing that Valt is World Champion. I just don't agree that he can beat others because all think that he suprass others already

(May. 16, 2021  3:40 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote:

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Well watching how Valt was fighting against Lean , I can say that Shu is stronger than Valt in Sparking because he was able to beat Variant Lucifer. Also Shu was training Valt to have some chance against Lean while Lui didn't even know about Variant Lucifer power. I can say that if in episode 15-16 there was Valt vs Lean then Valt would lose as Lui because he didn't know about Lucifer at that time. Valt had more time to practices , to get stronger and to understand how beat barrier. Second, well he not outsmarted it, he just ring out him when he activated it on Ragnaruk. It's not like Lui is not smarter than Valt, it's only because Valt and Rantaro were needed to fight brothers

(May. 16, 2021  3:45 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

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(May. 16, 2021  3:40 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: It's not like I don't agree with that thing that Valt is World Champion. I just don't agree that he can beat others because all think that he suprass others already

It's been officially stated and has been shown that Valt has surpassed Lui. That doesn't change because a person disagrees. I may not like the temperature outside, me not liking that doesn't alter the temperature outside.

(May. 16, 2021  3:58 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  3:40 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote:

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Well watching how Valt was fighting against Lean , I can say that Shu is stronger than Valt in Sparking because he was able to beat Variant Lucifer. Also Shu was training Valt to have some chance against Lean while Lui didn't even know about Variant Lucifer power. I can say that if in episode 15-16 there was Valt vs Lean then Valt would lose as Lui because he didn't know about Lucifer at that time. Valt had more time to practices , to get stronger and to understand how beat barrier. Second, well he not outsmarted it, he just ring out him when he activated it on Ragnaruk. It's not like Lui is not smarter than Valt, it's only because Valt and Rantaro were needed to fight brothers

Even when they battle the second (lui vs lean) time lui didn't manage to destroy the barrier in the battle royal even tho he is helped by 3 other bladers to do so. A reminder that the tournament is a tag team based battle Valt and rantaro clearly out smarted shu and lean where's lui and drum didn't i can give more examples but it will drag on and The last statement isn't really valid since you clearly wanted anime evidence so we must count every occurring event weather you like it or not.

(May. 16, 2021  4:05 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  3:45 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

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It's been officially stated and has been shown that Valt has surpassed Lui. That doesn't change because a person disagrees. I may not like the temperature outside, me not liking that doesn't alter the temperature outside.

Where? After Choz there were no 1 vs 1. Fact that he was able from one hit destroy barrier doesn't mean that he is stronger than Lui. Lui was fighting Lean but he didn't know about Variant Lucifer. Valt unless from Lui had more time to get strategy, even Shu was helping Valt. There is a big difference between episodes 15-16 and 30-31. I can say that Shu is stronger than Valt because Shu bursted Lucifer, I am sure you won't like this. You must understand that if Valt got way higher, then it doesn't mean that he is  stronger than Lui or Free. Valt is the strongest but it doesn't mean that he is stronger than Lui, we just need to wait for their 1 vs 1 battle, then we will see who is stronger

(May. 16, 2021  4:12 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 16, 2021  4:05 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: Where? After Choz there were no 1 vs 1. Fact that he was able from one hit destroy barrier doesn't mean that he is stronger than Lui. Lui was fighting Lean but he didn't know about Variant Lucifer. Valt unless from Lui had more time to get strategy, even Shu was helping Valt. There is a big difference between episodes 15-16 and 30-31. I can say that Shu is stronger than Valt because Shu bursted Lucifer, I am sure you won't like this. You must understand that if Valt got way higher, then it doesn't mean that he is  stronger than Lui or Free. Valt is the strongest but it doesn't mean that he is stronger than Lui, we just need to wait for their 1 vs 1 battle, then we will see who is stronger

Check Valt's bio's for Surge and DB. They directly state Valt as being the strongest. And Valt's ability to take down the barrier in one shot does directly show that Valt is stronger. Lui lacked the power to break through the barrier whereas Valt was. It shows the clear difference in their power levels. Valt didn't use some grand strategy to break through the barrier, that was raw power. Lui tried the same thing and failed to do so, due to the simple fact that Valt is more powerful. Also Lui had time to analyze the barrier and none of that led to a win. In addition Shu isn't stronger than Valt. Valt directly defeated him in sparking. And that last statement doesn't really make sense, If a blader is the strongest than they are stronger than any other blader. Which clearly means that Valt is stronger than the rest.

(May. 16, 2021  4:14 PM)Free... Hoya Wrote: How I feel is that, I won't argue with that valt has been confirmed being the strongest. However, he certainly isn't unbeatable. If rookies can beat him then surely legends can as well.

(May. 16, 2021  4:14 PM)Free... Hoya Wrote: How I feel is that, I won't argue with that valt has been confirmed being the strongest. However, he certainly isn't unbeatable. If rookies can beat him then surely legends can as well.

(May. 16, 2021  8:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Remember when special moves were special and not just simple slashes or generic moves?