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RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - bumpyfelon - Nov. 25, 2011

I always found my Light launcher 2 very smooth and to have a powerful spin. I need to go check my winder to see which one it is. I prefer the Light Launcher 2 over a Beylauncher/ String Launcher because I have always liked a winder-based system. The way I launch with a Beylauncher, I always end up fraying or breaking the strings. I have had no problems with my Light Launcher 2, however. I don't know if I am weird for preferring the LL2, because apparently the Beylauncher is better, but meh.


EDIT: I have checked the mold, and the only thing I can find is "A3." This wasn't mentioned in SAM10795's post...

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Nano - Nov. 25, 2011

(Nov. 25, 2011  2:25 PM)Janstarblast Wrote: C'mon guys, this is beyblade, not a TCG...
SCREW THE RULES I HAVE MONEY

(Nov. 25, 2011  2:55 PM)Uwik Wrote: As supposed to playing beyblades butt naked?
.......
Ouch >_<

(Nov. 25, 2011  4:55 PM)Kai-V Wrote: My remedy is of course to just type it all out like a non-lazy person ...

wut u meen nonlazy
iz no lazy

I sent a MF-F Earth Aquario 145WD flying into my closet door yesterday. My cousin and I were both like "Damn..."
I used that as a lesson, and told him never to use a stamina against an attack.
It still made a pretty big "THUD" when it hit.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Ultra - Nov. 26, 2011

After looking at the newer hasbro exclusive stuff I really want to find however decides what colour things they release should be and hurt them. They're clearly all wrong. Why does Poison virgo have a blue clear wheel and the counter Aquario's clear wheel is wrong too. Also I looked at the set with the red launcher grip and was very happy. But then it was crushed when they had the tool part in another colour for no reason like the always do.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

(Nov. 25, 2011  4:35 PM)Arupaeo Wrote: I don't like the abbreviation "L3R" for the Light Launcher L/R for the following reasons:

* It makes it sound like it's a beyblade piece rather than a launcher.
* It removes the specific notation L/R - which is very clear in indicating left and right spin, and is in widespread use with the beylauncher L/R
* "L3R" has been used in less than 40 posts by less than 20 people.

That being said, there are a small number of people who do like it. Maybe they would like to post their thoughts?

L3R is what is written at the top of the box of variares where it mentions the launcher.

The full name is Light Launcher L/R, as written on the launcher itself, but L3R is an officially used abbreviation, like LL2.

As for the power, they're actually very respectable launchers, as long as you don't have one that skips. They are only just short of a beylauncher.


RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hazel - Nov. 26, 2011

The L3R tend to have a bit more prominent skipping problems from what I've heard, though - it seems more likely to get a skipping one than one that works perfectly.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

Hm. That's odd, mine works great. My Variares, on the other hand...

Well, I still suck with it, anyway.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Arupaeo - Nov. 26, 2011

(Nov. 26, 2011  1:04 AM)th!nk Wrote:
(Nov. 25, 2011  4:35 PM)Arupaeo Wrote: I don't like the abbreviation "L3R" for the Light Launcher L/R for the following reasons:

* It makes it sound like it's a beyblade piece rather than a launcher.
* It removes the specific notation L/R - which is very clear in indicating left and right spin, and is in widespread use with the beylauncher L/R
* "L3R" has been used in less than 40 posts by less than 20 people.

That being said, there are a small number of people who do like it. Maybe they would like to post their thoughts?

L3R is what is written at the top of the box of variares where it mentions the launcher.

The full name is Light Launcher L/R, as written on the launcher itself, but L3R is an officially used abbreviation, like LL2.

As for the power, they're actually very respectable launchers, as long as you don't have one that skips. They are only just short of a beylauncher.

Well, so it is... I'd never noticed that. Thanks for the info!

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - sum 472 - Nov. 26, 2011

Wouldn't WD-20 or something help? or is that how the Light Launcher L/R is manufactured?

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

It happens with a lot of launchers, but lubricant may help, I have not tried.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hazel - Nov. 26, 2011

I doubt lubrication would do anything beneficial for the L3R.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hov - Nov. 26, 2011

Just looked at the adv forums, and man, about time Lightning L Drago is taken down. It was probably the longest reigning attack wheel. May LLD R.I.P the king's throne is now passed on to VariAres. . . .

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hazel - Nov. 26, 2011

Lightning's progression:

Underrated, Never used -> Tested -> Massively overrated, still barely used -> Outclassed, still massively overrated, starting to get used -> Current status - deified, useless, overused.

Ah, the wonders of inaccurate tests and lazy readers.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

Mmm, the discussion is going quite nicely, I'm honestly very happy with how things are going nowadays.
Things seem to be being accepted quicker, and so the only things that "miss out" are generally those that need more testing, due to specific setups being required etc. I really need to get around to doing that MF-F Phantom (attack) Cancer AD145RF testing...

Though, I would point out that there should probably be more clarification on certain setups, as BD145WD being a top tier stamina setup could be taken from what is written there, and BD145RS is a disastrous setup on MOST wheels.

Hazel: You're being too harsh on it, it was honestly rather underrated, or at least heavily under-used, despite testing done by many people showing it to be good (I tested it myself, soooo), it was the rise of MF LLD BD145LRF that it became over-hyped, but honestly, BD145's hype as an attack track was much worse.

It really was honestly better than just about anything else, except maybe gravity, and on the release of 230 and basalt, generally had an upper hand again.

I legitimately think that were it used more, it would've destroyed a metagame in which the best defense bottom was WB and the best defence wheel was Earth, had it been used more. That said, without RS and RSF, so would Vulcan.


RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hov - Nov. 26, 2011

Lol true. I also to plan to get the pre hws l drago then I have all the l drago lineage. Just cause I was a fan of Dragoons. ;P

On the note of death wheel. I think death is the most balanced wheel we all have been looking for. Decent attack , stamina, and defense. IMO, MF H Death BullBD145RSF would be the balanced combo. . .

EDIT: typing on a iPad is so damn hard for me to type. >:s

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

Eugh, I dislike RSF. Not that it's bad, I just find CS slightly better at basically everything, and RSF is just too... average.

Edit: Wow, lot of people reading this thread at the mo'.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hov - Nov. 26, 2011

Well, I'm hoping for the Hasbro RSF to be different. . . . But ey habro cs could work it.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hazel - Nov. 26, 2011

I am also not fond of RSF. It's a CS that is susceptible to Left-Spinners and faster wear. Benefits? Outweighed.

Death is garbage for Attack, and only seems to win Stamina matches by weight-slinging - and even then it is extremely unreliable and entirely dependant upon track.


(Nov. 26, 2011  3:22 AM)th!nk Wrote: Hazel: You're being too harsh on it, it was honestly rather underrated, or at least heavily under-used, despite testing done by many people showing it to be good (I tested it myself, soooo), it was the rise of MF LLD BD145LRF that it became over-hyped, but honestly, BD145's hype as an attack track was much worse.

It really was honestly better than just about anything else, except maybe gravity, and on the release of 230 and basalt, generally had an upper hand again.

I legitimately think that were it used more, it would've destroyed a metagame in which the best defense bottom was WB and the best defence wheel was Earth, had it been used more. That said, without RS and RSF, so would Vulcan.

I was pretty much talking about the BD145 combo, yes. It wasn't great with much of anything else - or nothing anyone bothered using, anyway, and the BD145 combo was the most ludicrously over-hyped thing I'd ever seen. Unfortunately, the legacy it left behind is one of misinformation, leading people to think the wheel itself was better than it actually was. Best of its original time, yes! Definitely the best pre-4D Attack MW for pure purposes.

4D, however, has left it standing on a single wounded leg, and I personally think it is sweeping time.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

Well, you basically nailed everything in that post, again.

But yes, it is very outclassed now that we have at least two excellent, reliable (as an attack type can be) wheels, and I suspect we'd see a third once phantom gets some more testing in the right setups.

I prefer Variares to lightning, even though I am not particularly good with it.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - sum 472 - Nov. 26, 2011

Earlier Today, I PMed Kei about this Lightning VS Variares talk, no reply yet.
I'm fine with anything, I think it still has a spot; but tier 2/3 would be where Lightning goes.
The problem is; Variares is less reliable, but better in this current environment. It's like Gravity Perseus but having more smash, so in a way, it's like the Lightning VS Gravity Perseus discussion.
And that Lightning is limited to left -spin and Vari seems to be better in right.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

Kei is quite busy at the moment.

Umm, variares is more reliable as it actually wins, unlike lightning, which can't do anything to the newer defense combo's etc.

If it's Tier 2/3 then it doesn't belong on the list.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hammer Hades - Nov. 26, 2011

(Nov. 26, 2011  7:40 AM)sum 472 Wrote: Earlier Today, I PMed Kei about this Lightning VS Variares talk, no reply yet.
I'm fine with anything, I think it still has a spot; but tier 2/3 would be where Lightning goes.
The problem is; Variares is less reliable, but better in this current environment. It's like Gravity Perseus but having more smash, so in a way, it's like the Lightning VS Gravity Perseus discussion.
And that Lightning is limited to left -spin and Vari seems to be better in right.
There is no point having a tier 2/3 as they would be absolutely useless in tournaments
(Nov. 26, 2011  7:45 AM)th!nk Wrote: Kei is quite busy at the moment.

Umm, variares is more reliable as it actually wins, unlike lightning, which can't do anything to the newer defense combo's etc.

If it's Tier 2/3 then it doesn't belong on the list.

I had the same problem as you with Variares but it seems to have improved now- have no idea how though

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - Hazel - Nov. 26, 2011

Variares is not less reliable than Lightning... there is no "Lightning vs Variares" talk. Variares is better. The talk is about whether or not Lightning belongs on the list at all - and most of us feel it does not.

I am not sure pestering Kei was proper - if a lot of input were desired, a thread to discuss it would've been made in a forum everyone could discuss it in.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

I guess it's less "consistent", but only because lightning consistently loses to the better defense combo's, whereas variares beats them most of the time.

That's really just pointless semantics, though Speechless

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - sum 472 - Nov. 26, 2011

(Nov. 26, 2011  7:49 AM)Hazel Wrote: Variares is not less reliable than Lightning... there is no "Lightning vs Variares" talk. Variares is better. The talk is about whether or not Lightning belongs on the list at all - and most of us feel it does not.

I am not sure pestering Kei was proper - if a lot of input were desired, a thread to discuss it would've been made in a forum everyone could discuss it in.

I mean reliable as in recoil, Lightning was easy to use because the recoil wasn't so extreme, and it was the only attacker that could use BD145 to it's advantage without slowing it down and reducing hits. Variares on the other hand, just excells at Mid-height attack, since I don't think I've ever seen a ''MF Variares AD145/230/TH220RF/WF/MF"
or it on 90,85,100. But then again that was when LTAC wasn't treaded on by Basalt.

RE: Beyblade Random Thoughts - th!nk - Nov. 26, 2011

BD145 did slow it down and reduce its hits. It needed the weight to take on Basalt 230CS which was rampant at the time.

Variares uses CH120 and R145, two of the best attack tracks ever, without needing to do anything more. It's good at most heights, but those tracks (especially CH120) allow it to handle everything, without needing specific tracks like LLD.

On CH120 at least (probably r145 too) it can hit anything it would hit on an 85 track and more.

"MF Lightning L Drago AD145/230/TH170RF/MF/WF" are all terrible too, so it's unfair to say that it's just variares that doesn't work like that.

You're severely over-estimating lightning's capabilities, and I've always like the wheel...