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RE: Random Thoughts - Alice - Feb. 06, 2008
Ominous Wrote:I wasn't discussing rights, though. I was bringing up intent. To me, it seems like the civil union is the 'secular marriage' - the 'Christmas for non-Christians', if you will. If you get the same benefits as a ceremonious marriage, and can pull off the same shindig, does it really matter to you?
I just thought I'd throw in my opinion here as I completely agree with Roan.
The whole aspect of the difference between a civil union and an official marriage ceremony is not entirely the point. It's the fact that there has to be a difference in the first place: this is what, I can only assume, gay people find so debilitative and so discouraging - the fact that they are not allowed to be a part of the exclusive (because that is what it is) club of married couples.
Ominous Wrote:If you get the same benefits as a ceremonious marriage, and can pull off the same shindig, does it really matter to you?
I'm not gay but I can probably speak for a large number of gay people when I say the answer is yes. Not only do partners bound in a civil union NOT have the same rights as a married couple, it's the principle that matters the most here. Gay people are being offered an alternative. I believe that's what homosexuals find so detrimental - they want to be treated as equals.
RE: Random Thoughts - Roan - Feb. 06, 2008
Alice Wrote:Ominous Wrote:I wasn't discussing rights, though. I was bringing up intent. To me, it seems like the civil union is the 'secular marriage' - the 'Christmas for non-Christians', if you will. If you get the same benefits as a ceremonious marriage, and can pull off the same shindig, does it really matter to you?
I just thought I'd throw in my opinion here as I completely agree with Roan.
The whole aspect of the difference between a civil union and an official marriage ceremony is not entirely the point. It's the fact that there has to be a difference in the first place: this is what, I can only assume, gay people find so debilitative and so discouraging - the fact that they are not allowed to be a part of the exclusive (because that is what it is) club of married couples.
Ominous Wrote:If you get the same benefits as a ceremonious marriage, and can pull off the same shindig, does it really matter to you?
I'm not gay but I can probably speak for a large number of gay people when I say the answer is yes. Not only do partners bound in a civil union NOT have the same rights as a married couple, it's the principle that matters the most here. Gay people are being offered an alternative. I believe that's what homosexuals find so detrimental - they want to be treated as equals.
*Hug*
You said everything I wanted to only about twenty times better.
RE: Random Thoughts - Bey Brad - Feb. 06, 2008
http://tornadomart.cocolog-nifty.com/newooblog/cat1982881/index.html
this guy is my hero *_*
RE: Random Thoughts - Roan - Feb. 07, 2008
hgfjjjtrhjutetvqwtv
I passed my driver's test today.
w00t
RE: Random Thoughts - Blue - Feb. 07, 2008
^ cool man
***
peeps, this is definetly one of Fox's best shows ever. so glad I remebered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekY5QUltwT4
RE: Random Thoughts - AnnieDuck - Feb. 07, 2008
one of my dogs got into a fight with something a couple of minutes ago and was bleeding all over the floor, my parents just took her to the vet
I guess I won't be going to bed early tonight
RE: Random Thoughts - Blue - Feb. 07, 2008
annie thats rotten.
RE: Random Thoughts - Bey Brad - Feb. 07, 2008
Roan Wrote:hgfjjjtrhjutetvqwtv
I passed my driver's test today.
w00t
YESSSSSSSSSS
RE: Random Thoughts - AnnieDuck - Feb. 07, 2008
Blue Wrote:annie thats rotten.
At least she didn't go after a bear.
Again.
RE: Random Thoughts - Kei - Feb. 10, 2008
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
lmfao what a carp with her pushup showing
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
lmfao hm
\+ĸäị+\ - "Ziiiips" says:
wat are you talking about
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
your cagali one is hot though (talking about a vector of Cagalli I did)
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
always liked her boobs
\+ĸäị+\ - "Ziiiips" says:
thanks for the info
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
LMFAO
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Alrightie then
RE: Random Thoughts - bugturtles - Feb. 10, 2008
i can't believe you actually posted that
hahahaha
...
well that chick from no more heroes does seem like a whorebag
RE: Random Thoughts - Kei - Feb. 10, 2008
bugturtles Wrote:i can't believe you actually posted that
hahahaha
...
well that chick from no more heroes does seem like a whorebag
That's what you were talking about?! Haha, I was confused when that happened.
RE: Random Thoughts - Roan - Feb. 10, 2008
I. Hate. Nascar.
RE: Random Thoughts - bugturtles - Feb. 10, 2008
Kei Wrote:bugturtles Wrote:i can't believe you actually posted that
hahahaha
...
well that chick from no more heroes does seem like a whorebag
That's what you were talking about?! Haha, I was confused when that happened.
cagalli isn't a carp, she just cries too much
RE: Random Thoughts - Bey Brad - Feb. 10, 2008
Just got the infamous palmrest crack
http://www.flickr.com/groups/crackedmacbook/pool/
RE: Random Thoughts - PRINCEcharming - Feb. 10, 2008
Needs moar Ubuntu.
RE: Random Thoughts - bugturtles - Feb. 11, 2008
So when I get my permit and license, I might get an old BMW or AE86.
I forget which BMW model it was, but my uncle, being the BMW enthusiast that he is, suggested an old one as it was "the most maneuverable" compared to all the other cheaper models. (if you need a scale on old, it is slightly more box shaped)
Also, my dad said an 86 was good, as there were a lot used in his day in the Philippines.
RE: Random Thoughts - G - Feb. 11, 2008
I might join the Marines if I don't get into the college I want to get into... They're "postponing" their decision right now so I bet it's another way to say no.
RE: Random Thoughts - Roan - Feb. 11, 2008
G Wrote:I might join the Marines if I don't get into the college I want to get into... They're "postponing" their decision right now so I bet it's another way to say no.
Don't do it!
lol
RE: Random Thoughts - Ominous - Feb. 11, 2008
Roan would rather you join the Navy.
BA-ZING!
RE: Random Thoughts - Roan - Feb. 11, 2008
In the navyyyy
there's no need to feel down
RE: Random Thoughts - G - Feb. 11, 2008
I'll see how it goes. If I wait too long which it I have to if I want to know then they just carp me up for the other colleges. And I have to fill out that FAFSA thing too, but in order to do that, I need to get in a college first.
RE: Random Thoughts - Roan - Feb. 11, 2008
Jesus christ I am bored.
RE: Random Thoughts - Bey Brad - Feb. 11, 2008
yeah same i'm pretty much just looking at underwear out of boredom
RE: Random Thoughts - Elmo - Feb. 11, 2008
5th snow dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
If we get another one, we still only make up for 5 snow days, so the next ones are FREE DAYS OFF
MOAR SNOW PLZ