(Nov. 10, 2011  7:55 AM)Hazel Wrote: You're buying Beyblades just so you can be a pretentious braggard? Awesome!

As for your question, BBP and LDD are both fairly poor choices. Yes, SSJ will show up here eventually and go NO U HAZEL LDD IS TE BEST - but, it's actually pretty niche.

Phantom Orion B: D and Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF are both extremely solid purchases. Phantom is great for Stamina, Defense, and Tier 2-level Attack, and Death is a Basalt-equivalent Defense wheel. B: D is also a nice little niche Stamina track, if you don't mind not being able to change heights. Beat Lynx has TH170, which is my favorite part, so of course it gains honorable mention here for astounding capability in Defense and Stamina.

(Nov. 10, 2011  3:56 PM)th!nk Wrote: SSJ (SSJfisherman) is the old name of the member now called Shabalabadoo.

Killer Beafowl sucks.

Of those beys, Vulcan Horuseus is very, very outclassed, and flame byxis is probably best replaced by Beat Lynx (now released by sonokong), as TH170 is more useful than 230 in general.

I'd get Basalt ahead of Death Quetz if you don't have it, too, though hasbro have released it as Twisted Tempo.

BB-96, there are better purchases for the money (separate beys and sets). Libra is a decent wheel but it's basically outclassed completely by other wheels, and the low tracks it comes with aren't currently hugely useful competitively, as TH170, 230, BD145 and B: D, the main tracks they'll come up against if they're used for stamina or attack, beat them, and for defense use, the aforementioned tracks work better in basically all cases. Pegasis is a fun wheel due to it's high recoil and good power but serves no competitive use, and burn is very much outclassed. It comes with an RF, but there's easier ways to get that.

As for what Hazel said about LDD, it's not a bad wheel by any means, but honestly Variares makes it totally redundant. Speaking of which, didn't read the full convo but definitely get Variares. And, if you don't have it, a CH120 bey (Dark Gasher/Cancer). And one set each of Metal Faces and MF-H's if you don't have them.

(Nov. 10, 2011  6:56 PM)th!nk Wrote: Vulcan Horuseus was pretty good this time last year, iirc. Not sure when RS was released because that basically killed most right spin attack wheels, and BD145 and Basalt completely destroyed it.

TH170 is, as I said, like 230 but better at most things, largely at the 220 height. That said it's your money Though, TH170 comes with Beat, which is a very good attack wheel (if a bit unreliable).

Burn is the third bey in BB-96. Burn Cancer, Pegasis, and Libra.

Beywiki is outdated, and only taken from forum opinions at the time it was written. Believe what (knowledgeable) people say now, not what misled people thought last year. You said yourself your Hasbro CH120 didn't have problems so it's pretty dumb to think it does because the internet said so. That said if it's uneven it's probably broken, eventually it won't hold together on a bey. The same problem affects TT CH120's just as badly, overtightening a facebolt even once is enough to crack the thin walls that hold the facebolt's shaft, and that uneveness is a sign that that's happened. You have to be stupid careful with them.

The pegasis I was talking about is the pre-hws one in BB-96, which doesn't come with a beylauncher. It sucks as I said but it's a lot of fun.


There is absolutely no evidence to support any assertion that any particular release of basalt is heavier. If it were, weights would have been posted and it would be the hottest thing on this forum. Anyone that says otherwise is probably trying to sell a basalt, or has been similarly mislead. There is no weight difference and you shouldn't say otherwise without having done comparative weights on a calibrated electronic scientific scale.

Don't plan to use gravity? Don't bother with the reshuffle, most of it's outclassed now anyway, iirc AD145 is probably the only part that is sometimes still top-tier worthy (and even then, not very) (other than WD I guess don't remember the whole set). There's that mars red lr but IIRC you dislike it.

Wouldn't get Death Quetz till we have more testing.

Have you noticed the fact that article's section on Vulcan's performance hasn't been updated, and the owner of this site pointed out that it is outdated and the part is outclassed? Believe me, I wouldn't tell you it's useless if it wasn't, I have three of four vulcan wheels. It takes so long to update articles for beywiki that even the top tier list is updated faster (you will note vulcan isn't there any more), and it doesn't react quickly to change.

(Nov. 10, 2011  7:28 PM)th!nk Wrote: GB145 isn't really that great anymore. AD145 is okay, RS is good but generally a bit niche, MF-H is available elsewhere, as is LR, and Gravity Perseus attack can be obtained by buying a pre-opened RBV6 off ebay that has Gravity Perseus (ATK) BD145 XF, which includes BD145 and XF, two great parts. Gravity Perseus stamina is meh, and the normal one comes with the regular release anyways.

LED Sight is pointless and may mess up your launch by messing with the balance. PD may well be good but it hasn't been tested enough, and it isn't a free spinning part either which is a slight disadvantage.

(Nov. 10, 2011  9:54 PM)Kaji Motomiya Wrote: So I'm thinking of getting a Dark Bull H145(something bottom), mainly for H145 for (Smash) Attack Combos. I found two listings, one on Amazon (Hasbro), and one on eBay (TT), both I can get for $6.99 with free shipping. First, since I just want H145, would it be wise to get one of those at that price, and secondly, should I go Hasbro or TT?

(Nov. 10, 2011  11:16 PM)GaHooleone Wrote: There was some discussion in the Blitz thread IIRC that said it was better. That's what I was basing my post off of. But w/e, I don't own either anyways, so I can't say for sure.

(Nov. 10, 2011  11:14 PM)Hazel Wrote: Blitz is not better than VariAres, in any capacity. It's just better than everything else up to VariAres.

(Nov. 10, 2011  9:54 PM)Kaji Motomiya Wrote: So I'm thinking of getting a Dark Bull H145(something bottom), mainly for H145 for (Smash) Attack Combos. I found two listings, one on Amazon (Hasbro), and one on eBay (TT), both I can get for $6.99 with free shipping. First, since I just want H145, would it be wise to get one of those at that price, and secondly, should I go Hasbro or TT?

(Nov. 11, 2011  6:21 AM)Kaji Motomiya Wrote:

(Nov. 10, 2011  9:54 PM)Kaji Motomiya Wrote: So I'm thinking of getting a Dark Bull H145(something bottom), mainly for H145 for (Smash) Attack Combos. I found two listings, one on Amazon (Hasbro), and one on eBay (TT), both I can get for $6.99 with free shipping. First, since I just want H145, would it be wise to get one of those at that price, and secondly, should I go Hasbro or TT?

Anyone know how much I could sell off a Bull Clear Wheel and SD Bottom for? Or unless this is the wrong thread for this kind of question...