(Sep. 07, 2016  12:13 PM)Dracomageat Wrote: But, at the same time, a Chaos on Chaos grinding match would be a stamina finish with TT but could potentially be a DBF with Hasbro parts due to the two layers constantly pushing against each other.

(Sep. 07, 2016  12:27 PM)Dracomageat Wrote: Are you sure about that? On a stamina driver, we're talking next to no movement and next to no contact points on the layer. Short of a very early impact, I don't see there being enough force to overcome even the worst of teeth.
The Hasbro layers, however, have only friction as a barrier to layer rotation, meaning the minimum force to rotate them is theoretically a lot lower, even if they have a higher overall requirement to burst.

(Sep. 07, 2016  12:27 PM)Dracomageat Wrote: Are you sure about that? On a stamina driver, we're talking next to no movement and next to no contact points on the layer. Short of a very early impact, I don't see there being enough force to overcome even the worst of teeth.
The Hasbro layers, however, have only friction as a barrier to layer rotation, meaning the minimum force to rotate them is theoretically a lot lower, even if they have a higher overall requirement to burst.

(Sep. 07, 2016  10:57 AM)Brisk AquarioHD Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2016  10:01 AM)Dracomageat Wrote: What interests me ATM is that, theoretically, Hasbro beys could burst from lots of tiny hits, whereas TT ones would need hits of a certain minimum strength to overcome the teeth.

Well, since it is much harder for Hasbro beys to Burst, yes, it probably needs for small hits to be ongoing in order to 'chip out' the slopes. It makes sense. But it could be true, both ways.

(Sep. 07, 2016  2:43 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Have you ever played with Beyblade Burst? Absolutely, even a mirror match of immobile Stamina combinations can create Bursts, especially if it involves Deathscyther.

(Sep. 07, 2016  4:41 PM)Beyblade Beyond Wrote: I think the only thing that sucks about the new connect launchers or double launchers In general is the fact that no matter how long the ripcord is, the beyblade being launched on the side closer to the entrance area of the ripcord will always have the power of the whole ripcord while the other only gets 50% of the ripcord, making the battle unbalanced despite the fact that they're launched at the same time, I guess the only solution to that would be a double string launcher, what do you guys think?

(Sep. 07, 2016  4:42 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2016  4:41 PM)Beyblade Beyond Wrote: I think the only thing that sucks about the new connect launchers or double launchers In general is the fact that no matter how long the ripcord is, the beyblade being launched on the side closer to the entrance area of the ripcord will always have the power of the whole ripcord while the other only gets 50% of the ripcord, making the battle unbalanced despite the fact that they're launched at the same time, I guess the only solution to that would be a double string launcher, what do you guys think?

This has always been the case with double launchers, which is why it's still better to just launch one after the other.

(Sep. 07, 2016  5:08 PM)Dracomageat Wrote: They should make a double sword launcher (Darth Maul launcher anyone?) Where the middle gear is the only one to contact the ripcord so the other two get an even split and launch the beys.

(Sep. 07, 2016  5:29 PM)Dracomageat Wrote: There's no reason why the middle gear needs to be spun by a ripcord and not a string.

(Sep. 07, 2016  3:07 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2016  10:57 AM)Brisk AquarioHD Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2016  10:01 AM)Dracomageat Wrote: What interests me ATM is that, theoretically, Hasbro beys could burst from lots of tiny hits, whereas TT ones would need hits of a certain minimum strength to overcome the teeth.

Well, since it is much harder for Hasbro beys to Burst, yes, it probably needs for small hits to be ongoing in order to 'chip out' the slopes. It makes sense. But it could be true, both ways.

I don't have data on this yet but I suspect it's the opposite. The slope design means that if the hit isn't strong enough, the Layer won't budge or might reset to its previous position. So "taps" seem less important than with the Japanese ones.

This is just speculation. I could be wrong.

Also, Hasbro improved the burst resistance of a lot of beys that had ridiculously weak resistance before (Ragnaruk, Storm Spriggan, for example).

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The calculations


Graph of boxed equation with S = 10 and mu = 0.25 (as generic values), Applied force F, on the y-axis, Angle theta on the x-axis, in degrees.


tl;dr I found an equation to find the force you'd need to overcome for the beyblade to move based off the spring force in the driver, the angle of the slope, and the coefficient of friction of the plastics. It should work for both teeth and slopes but this is a huge simplification of what's going on.

(Sep. 07, 2016  5:50 AM)Bey Brad Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2016  5:41 AM)bigbangpegs Wrote: Hasbro hype all over again. Really can't wait for them to come. Can anybody post more test results or something. Hato is your Valtryek v2 still okay?

I was just assigned some tests from our overlord @[Kei], as were others, so stay tuned.

(Sep. 09, 2016  7:05 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Finally some news from the official channels: the official Beyblade Facebook Page updated its avatar and posted the following video:
https://www.facebook.com/officialbeyblade/videos/1342062062481529/

It is only the preview of the anime though, basically the same we saw for the original version. It does seem like they added "action sounds" however, because that sounded more interesting than the actual anime...

(Sep. 09, 2016  7:26 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: What the hell is with Valt's voice? His voice sounds like someone covered the microphone which makes it sound very stuffed.

At least it's nice to know they still kept "Let it rip!" (Or at least the hashtag does)