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RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - Dan - Nov. 02, 2011 Only recently has Galaxy Pegasis been accessible without getting it from overseas. Who would pay more money when they can get a similar enough tip for much less in some cases? LRF is just plain hard to get, and I'm very sad mine was mangled up.. I'd say LRF is pretty easy to control RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - th!nk - Nov. 02, 2011 Nyeh, as much as I've generally used RF on gravity and such, to be honest I doubt R2F/LRF would hurt in this case. As far as I'm aware (which is about as far as I can see without glasses when it comes to new mfb), Vari is usually used in right spin so yeah. Slashing all three in is good, though. Nice job getting this up, Dan and everyone else who contributed. RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - th!nk - Nov. 03, 2011 (Oct. 09, 2011 2:47 PM)Galaxy Wrote: I don't remember that when Hell came out people said "OMG,it's horrible!" xD ... I thought you Italians were supposed to be good with attack beys? What happened? First being dominated by Basalt 230 CS (which is honestly not hard to KO), and now you're denying lightning being exactly what testing showed it to be? What happened? And yes, Leone has a hell of a lot less smash attack than lightning. Even in its own day, Pegasis took hefty dumps all over its performance. I just dislike the fact you're claiming we're deluded. Thanks, but I tested lightning myself, and found it to be ridiculously good. I'll take my tests over those of people who struggle against MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS any day. RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - Shabalabadoo - Nov. 03, 2011 No, you're not understanding. About the Basalt 230CS, it's not that they like Attack which means they should have no problem with Basalt 230CS, it's that they use different attack types in different ways than most places do. If Leone (as a random example) could beat most Attack Beyblades, but Basalt 230CS beats Leone, it's a problem. Basalt ruined the Attack play that they had, because they had to rely on wheels with more smash attack, rather than what they used to do, which was even use virgo and earth for attack (Virgo used to dominate their game). As for Leone, it's pretty much the same thing. They measure Smash Attack based on how it can KO defense and other Attacks, whereas we measure only against defense. As an example, (but going back in time quite a bit) Pegasis used to have really good smash attack. That's because it could KO Defense. But if Leone can KO Defense, although to a lesser extent, and it can KO Pegasis very easily, then leone is the better of the two (in his terms). I believe that is what he's meaning by Leone being better than Lightning. RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - th!nk - Nov. 03, 2011 Well, that's not really a realistic, balanced, or healthy metagame to be honest, Basalt just reigned it in. Basalt 230CS is still easy to KO with any decent 145-height attacker. As for lightning, always worked well against my other attack beys, in fact, it was the reason I swung away from gravity eventually, because in 1v1, lightning always seemed to have an edge. We really should have a non-advanced version of that lightning thread, though, to be honest, it is still a ludicrous claim, Lightning was the best attack wheel basically from it's release, until Variares (though it and gravity were very close until bd145 was released.) At least, it would remove these unrelated posts from this thread. I do see what he means by "smash", and maybe the article should be edited to state "attack" instead of smash. However, in my opinion it comes down to determining the source of Lightning's power. Sure, it may not have the same horizontal smash as something like Fang (though I still find leone to be mediocre), but it still wins using smash (as can be seen from videos of battles involving it, and the way it wins). Basically, I think that it does use smash attack, but an amount of that smash is vertical, not horizontal. I explained it in my upward-smash post, basically. Being left spin gives it more chances to use this, too. It's easier to apply upwards smash than it would seem, too, as all it requires is one of the slopes to slip under a point on another bey. I probably overreacted and misunderstood. What I'd do, for clarity until we properly discuss lightning's power (I'll make a thread later). Modified my post, also, to be a little less harsh. "VariAres quickly found it's home in smash attack customs and is regarded by some as of even higher standard than Lightning which has held it's own position as the best attack wheel since release." Remove smash from the lightning part, should keep everyone happy. RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - Shabalabadoo - Nov. 03, 2011 It's more of an opinion rather than a claim, simply because they game there is obviously so much different. RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - ryugavskyoya1 - Jun. 04, 2013 The overall weight of Variares D should be their. The overall weight is 50 grams. RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - Kai-V - Jun. 04, 2013 (Jun. 04, 2013 1:29 AM)ryugavskyoya1 Wrote: The overall weight of Variares D should be their. The overall weight is 50 grams. People can figure out the sum of the weights of all the parts themselves ... RE: Dan's BB-114 VariAres D:D Draft *Posted* - [)ragon - Feb. 11, 2014 Update!! Everything changed is bolded. Quote:<keywords content="metal fight beyblade mfb 4d variares d:d vari ares delta drive bottom track tip performance hasbro takara tomy fusion masters fury shogun steel customization combo advice custom spin wiki bey defense type bb-114 starter encyclopedia expert article king war ares mode changes change attack" /> Just inserted some points on how severely outclassed the MW is now, and removed the entire "use in Balance type customizations" section. A couple other minor things. LOL, that article was much shorter than I thought it was going to be. |