(Apr. 25, 2011  5:13 AM)th!nk Wrote: There was a problem with plastics, though, there was a dominant type. As soon as people started using Zombies, the metagame became terribly broken.
Personally, I just loved plastics for the extra customisation (and, as I was a kid at the time, no one really cared about rules, so there were some crazy modifications. We drew the line at stuff like huge, spiked WD's that broke beyblades, but yeah.). Of course, as I always used hasbro stadiums, attack was never all that great then. Meh. Actually, I used to use Spiral Change primarily (though I later modified it with a driger S tip, after losing the Bearing. It actually worked amazingly well, but aaanyway).
Anyway, back on topic, yeah, it's hard to get a flower pattern. If you're good/lucky you can get it to do smaller circles before getting caught on the tornado ridge, which lets you get a couple of hits in, but you're not going to get a flower pattern without grip, plain and simple.

(Apr. 25, 2011  6:36 AM)Dan Wrote:

(Apr. 25, 2011  5:13 AM)th!nk Wrote: There was a problem with plastics, though, there was a dominant type. As soon as people started using Zombies, the metagame became terribly broken.
Personally, I just loved plastics for the extra customisation (and, as I was a kid at the time, no one really cared about rules, so there were some crazy modifications. We drew the line at stuff like huge, spiked WD's that broke beyblades, but yeah.). Of course, as I always used hasbro stadiums, attack was never all that great then. Meh. Actually, I used to use Spiral Change primarily (though I later modified it with a driger S tip, after losing the Bearing. It actually worked amazingly well, but aaanyway).
Anyway, back on topic, yeah, it's hard to get a flower pattern. If you're good/lucky you can get it to do smaller circles before getting caught on the tornado ridge, which lets you get a couple of hits in, but you're not going to get a flower pattern without grip, plain and simple.

I looked past that, since it was blatantly obvious. (perhaps silly.)

I think how far people go with attack types is very dependent on how many people bring them, and use them, no?

(Apr. 25, 2011  5:13 AM)th!nk Wrote: There was a problem with plastics, though, there was a dominant type. As soon as people started using Zombies, the metagame became terribly broken.
Personally, I just loved plastics for the extra customisation (and, as I was a kid at the time, no one really cared about rules, so there were some crazy modifications. We drew the line at stuff like huge, spiked WD's that broke beyblades, but yeah.). Of course, as I always used hasbro stadiums, attack was never all that great then. Meh. Actually, I used to use Spiral Change primarily (though I later modified it with a driger S tip, after losing the Bearing. It actually worked amazingly well, but aaanyway).
Anyway, back on topic, yeah, it's hard to get a flower pattern. If you're good/lucky you can get it to do smaller circles before getting caught on the tornado ridge, which lets you get a couple of hits in, but you're not going to get a flower pattern without grip, plain and simple.

(Apr. 25, 2011  6:36 AM)Dan Wrote: I think how far people go with attack types is very dependent on how many people bring them, and use them, no?

(Apr. 25, 2011  3:21 PM)Kai-V Wrote: If you mean because if only one person uses an Attack type and the rest is Defense and Stamina, then I agree. If that person is that good with Attack types, then they are served : they have plenty of what their Beyblade does very well against, so they should go far, no ? And if more people used Attack types, then it would become slightly more difficult.

(Apr. 25, 2011  3:28 PM)Dan Wrote:

(Apr. 25, 2011  3:21 PM)Kai-V Wrote: If you mean because if only one person uses an Attack type and the rest is Defense and Stamina, then I agree. If that person is that good with Attack types, then they are served : they have plenty of what their Beyblade does very well against, so they should go far, no ? And if more people used Attack types, then it would become slightly more difficult.

They should go far in that scenario, certainly. Difficulty can increase, but chances are if someone was to use an attack type they would cling on to Metal Face Lightning LDrago 9/10 times (absolutely random number, assumption.) which doesn't have too much problems dealing with other attack types. Considering everyone is wary about 230's being used, attackers will all be on CH120/145 so there wouldn't be a height disadvantage for our person. It would all come down to skill then. Where are we going with this..? :V I think people need to practice more than they do now.

Edit: What should this beyblade be categorized as? I've been having some difficulty with that.

(Apr. 25, 2011  4:23 PM)Dan Wrote: I always try to make it do consecutive hits, OHKO's on occasion. That is actually why I didn't get 100% against Hell Kerbecs 230CS, trying to KO, but I actually got KO'd:

MF Meteo LDrago CH145XF vs. MF-H Hell Kerbecs 230CS
MF Meteo LDrago CH145XF win rate: 9/10 (6 OS, 3 KO)
MF-H Hell Kerbecs 230CS win rate: 1/10 (1 KO)

So, for Hell/Flame 230's I suggest you unfortunately stall. For Earth and Basalt, you might as well launch at 20%, you'll still win. (IIRC, same as Hell BD145CS)

(Apr. 25, 2011  5:05 PM)Dan Wrote: I don't know, but here are some non top-tier results against Earth:

MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF vs. MF-H Earth Bull C145RF
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF win rate: 4/10 (4 KO)
MF-H Earth Bull C145RF win rate: 6/10 (6 KO)

Okay, safe to say that anti-meta is the weakness of LLD CH120XF, right?
Heres the weird part:

MF Meteo LDrago CH120XF vs. MF-H Earth Bull C145RF
MF Meteo LDrago CH120XF win rate: 8/10 (6 KO, 2 OS)
MF-H Earth Bull C145RF win rate: 2/10 (2 KO)

I was thinking, this thing obliterates Earth, usually by KO. I like KO's. :V I think this was the combo McFrown used against MF-F Lightning LDrago in his video, or perhaps GB145. These results don't mean too much, but an out-dated anti-meta comparison. So kids, you want KO's with this combo? Use it against Earth!

(Apr. 25, 2011  6:30 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Who cares about how many people use Attack types. What matters is if they can even go far in a tournament with them.

(Apr. 25, 2011  9:06 PM)Fire Eternal Wrote: Maybe Kei could do tests? He tested Lightning Tank against MF LDrago 100WF and the Lightning Tank lost 3-12. Maybe Maximum Meteor could suffer the same downfall.

Do you have any ideas as to what may be Maximum Meteor's true kryptonite? There has to be some weakness to it.

(Apr. 26, 2011  11:14 PM)Dan Wrote: .. That really doesn't make sense. WB is lower than CS, and even with CS, Meteo can still hit Basalt. WB would just make it easier to spin-steal and KO..