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RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - KuroKitsune - Mar. 20, 2012
Im pretty sure they didn't intend for the MXS to be any good, they just released a slightly different stadium to cash in more money, Also it was planned to always have those craters which they introduced in metal masters.
Edit: also i don't want them to change their metal fury line.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - LeonTempest - Mar. 20, 2012
I already pointed that out, so did th!nk
Considering I have nothing to lose by contacting Hasbro, especialy since I am stuck with Hasbro beyblades, I do not know about the rest of you, but I am certaitly going to send hasbro a very polite, yet concerned letter asking for my inquiries to be addressed.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - th!nk - Mar. 20, 2012
(Mar. 20, 2012 2:42 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: ...or I could be trying to use a logical fallacy to get some inspiration going based on the extremly slim hope that emailing hasbro could change this carpy situation...
But seriously, could advocating contacting Hasbro really hurt anything? We have nothing to lose
So you're misleading people into doing something when there is absolutely no hope of it succeeding.
Seriously, stop whining about it already and just make the best of what you have. I'm sick to death of you, Kbuno and others spamming and complaining pointlessly all over the forum.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - kbuno50 - Mar. 20, 2012
I haven't posted on this thread for 2 pages, and I haven't contributed anything to the "o hasbero wunt listun" discussion.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - LeonTempest - Mar. 20, 2012
(Mar. 20, 2012 3:15 AM)th!nk Wrote:(Mar. 20, 2012 2:42 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: ...or I could be trying to use a logical fallacy to get some inspiration going based on the extremly slim hope that emailing hasbro could change this carpy situation...
But seriously, could advocating contacting Hasbro really hurt anything? We have nothing to lose
So you're misleading people into doing something when there is absolutely no hope of it succeeding.
Seriously, stop whining about it already and just make the best of what you have. I'm sick to death of you, Kbuno and others spamming and complaining pointlessly all over the forum.
I was suggesting that we all stop complaining...none of my posts are on the level of some of the real whinners...I even suggested that we prohibit conversation about this on the habsro thread, so ya what you said about me is kind of false...especialy considering most of what I have said about this issue has been contained to this thread alone...
Logical fallacies, when used correctly, can be a rhetorical stratagy. Its purpose is not to mislead people at all, but to strengthen ones own argument. Used incorrectly, and well, the person using it looks like an idiot
I will still more than likely buy all of these anyways. It will be interesting to see how Hasbro's "unique" take on 4D brings any kind of benifit to the Hasbro meta.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Annoying-Fork - Mar. 20, 2012
Kai-V said we can vent, besides I only make sense when saying that Hasbro doesn't know the legitimate impact 4D had in worldwide Beyblading even before announcing Metal Fury. Taking lessons is important.
I also don't have any response to the idea of these wheels being improved over their Takara derived, well, "step cousin".
I also like bitter chocolates to an extent, so I will buy these but something not related to this topic is in my radar right now.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - kbuno50 - Mar. 20, 2012
I told my little cousin about this, (hes like 7 lol), and he went "WHAT!?!?"
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - th!nk - Mar. 20, 2012
(Mar. 20, 2012 3:34 AM)kbuno50 Wrote: I haven't posted on this thread for 2 pages, and I haven't contributed anything to the "o hasbero wunt listun" discussion.
You've whined about it in numerous other threads throughout the forum. Future Innovations You'd like to see in beyblade or whatever was one of them.
(Mar. 20, 2012 3:42 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote:(Mar. 20, 2012 3:15 AM)th!nk Wrote:(Mar. 20, 2012 2:42 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: ...or I could be trying to use a logical fallacy to get some inspiration going based on the extremly slim hope that emailing hasbro could change this carpy situation...
But seriously, could advocating contacting Hasbro really hurt anything? We have nothing to lose
So you're misleading people into doing something when there is absolutely no hope of it succeeding.
Seriously, stop whining about it already and just make the best of what you have. I'm sick to death of you, Kbuno and others spamming and complaining pointlessly all over the forum.
I was suggesting that we all stop complaining...none of my posts are on the level of some of the real whinners...I even suggested that we prohibit conversation about this on the habsro thread, so ya what you said about me is kind of false...especialy considering most of what I have said about this issue has been contained to this thread alone...
Logical fallacies, when used correctly, can be a rhetorical stratagy. Its purpose is not to mislead people at all, but to strengthen ones own argument. Used incorrectly, and well, the person using it looks like an idiot
I will still more than likely buy all of these anyways. It will be interesting to see how Hasbro's "unique" take on 4D brings any kind of benifit to the Hasbro meta.
You are one of the worst whiners specifically because you do so in other, completely irrelevant threads.
"Used incorrectly, and well, the person using it looks like an idiot"
Welp.
(Mar. 20, 2012 3:51 AM)Codeine Extorts Wrote: Kai-V said we can vent, besides I only make sense when saying that Hasbro doesn't know the legitimate impact 4D had in worldwide Beyblading even before announcing Metal Fury. Taking lessons is important.
I also don't have any response to the idea of these wheels being improved over their Takara derived, well, "step cousin".
I also like bitter chocolates to an extent, so I will buy these but something not related to this topic is in my radar right now.
There's a difference between venting and whining about it constantly in unrelated threads, which is what I was specifically irritated with. Venting here is no problem (though it should be more constructive). It is when it is carried on into other topics that I have a serious issue with it, however, in the context of this thread, I still think everyone should be looking to make the best of what they are going to have, as that is not something that will change at such a late stage.
Don't get me wrong, I'm hugely sympathetic to everyone who is missing out because of this rather baffling decision on Hasbro's part, but whining about it is pointless (whining about it in unrelated threads is worse than pointless). Nothing is going to change, so I suggest at least trying to see the bright side: Completely new wheels. Hopefully, some will end up being better than their TT counterparts.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - LeonTempest - Mar. 20, 2012
Btw, complaining about our so called "whining" does not do much either.
I have talked about this issue in only 3 other threads; In the hasbro thread to tell other people to stop complaining about it; in the innovations thread as a joke AFTER i made a relevant post about an innovation I would like to see; and in the anime and manga random thoughts thread, to provide an answer to someone's question. Nothing more. the only one I will admit was not needed was the post in the innovations thread, but it is not like anything terrible occured, nor did I repeat anything I had previously stated on this thread here...
In addition, most of what I have said regarding this issue has been contructive, and for the most part, more positive as compared to other user's posts
So ya...
Now before we derail this any further and have all of these posts deleted, drop it because what you are accusing me of is practicaly baseless
I already have plans to pick up Cosmic when it reaches my area. Because mode change is practicaly useless in same spin battles anyway, so long as Hasbro kept Big Bang in its most useful mode when removing the mode change, then I will not be disapointed. And hey, no mode change could mean a sturdier design too
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Annoying-Fork - Mar. 20, 2012
Yeah one major positive is a prolonged usability.
Besides, I think all these heavily altered versions should take up name changes. It's only fair to hardcore collectors.
Such as-
Spoiler (Click to View)
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - LeonTempest - Mar. 20, 2012
For me, that is all these are; collector versions of the 4D beys. Who knows, a few years from now, these could be considered somewhat rare oddities that are actualy worth something
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Kai-V - Mar. 20, 2012
(Mar. 20, 2012 4:24 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: For me, that is all these are; collector versions of the 4D beys. Who knows, a few years from now, these could be considered somewhat rare oddities that are actualy worth something
It is actually the complete contrary : since TAKARA-TOMY's and SonoKong's are not distributed worldwide, those are the exclusive "collector versions", and Hasbro's are the common, cheap 'alternatives' ...
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - LeonTempest - Mar. 20, 2012
But if SK and TT came 1st, that would make them the norm, and what Hasbro is doing abnormal
Since both are true, then I guess Hasbro can be credited for making the 1st ever, cheap alternative collectables, haha
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Kai-V - Mar. 20, 2012
(Mar. 20, 2012 4:59 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: But if SK and TT came 1st, that would make them the norm, and what Hasbro is doing abnormal
Since both are true, then I guess Hasbro can be credited for making the 1st ever, cheap alternative collectables, haha
Probably more than seventy-five percent of the world will not receive stock of the actual 4D Beyblades. "Collector" is a term associated with what is uncommon, often more expensive, etc.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - reggie yi - Mar. 20, 2012
It might be interesting to see what hasbro decides to do with its metal fury line of products, of course its not really 4ds without mode changing, I wonder what Americans will think when they see the metal fury show in America
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Kai-V - Mar. 20, 2012
Again, like almost all "Americans", you forget that Hasbro is not only distributing Beyblade for the United States residents, but also to Europe, a few countries in the Middle East, etc.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Meteor-V - Mar. 20, 2012
Just to let everybody know is that I saw BB-142 on the Hasbro 4D Cosmic Pegasus
Edit:I was wrong, it's written BB-145
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Kai-V - Mar. 20, 2012
(Mar. 20, 2012 3:16 PM)BlitzMaster Wrote: Just to let everybody know is that I saw BB-142 on the Hasbro 4D Cosmic Pegasus.
Actually, it is written "B-145".
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - phantomcellistf - Mar. 20, 2012
(Mar. 20, 2012 3:46 PM)Kai-V Wrote:(Mar. 20, 2012 3:16 PM)BlitzMaster Wrote: Just to let everybody know is that I saw BB-142 on the Hasbro 4D Cosmic Pegasus.
Actually, it is written "B-145".
Wrong. It's B-146. Spiral Fox is B-145.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Meteor-V - Mar. 20, 2012
Cosmic Pegasus is suppose to be BB-105, why is Hasbro changing it?
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - LeonTempest - Mar. 20, 2012
Hasbro generally attempts to avoid BB code conflicts with TT, although sometimes it happens by accident
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - Annoying-Fork - Mar. 20, 2012
I have ideas on "alternative special attacks" for Hasbro's Metal Fury Beyblades.
(open up for coolstorybro.txt)
Spoiler (Click to View)
Aaaaand I don't know what else to add.
EDIT: Although they cannot apply changes at this point, I think it'd be fair if they just renamed them all. Variares will lose its distinction to the Metal System tops if just one mode.
And I just realized, Hasbro put themselves in a situation here. If Variares does lose its mode change, their reasons for not releasing NON LEGEND SERIES pre-hws tops is rather trivial at best. Better start looking at various prospects Hasbro.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - UGottaCetus - Mar. 20, 2012
I was reading earlier posts about sending emails to Hasbro regarding this problem, to which a few disagreed. I actually think this is a good idea, even if not for the new Beys. This is a means of communication with Hasbro, and we could ask them to help with an upcoming tourney or something like that, could we not? I've read multiple posts regarding a partnership with Hasbro, and this seems like a good chance at getting it. Just an idea, but yeah.
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - apple1075 - Mar. 20, 2012
I'm pretty sure that i read that a certain member of wbo, i think his avatar is a guy with an eyepatch, is a manager of a toy store that stocks beyblades, surely hasbro would reply to him, or maybe he has more information
RE: BEYBLADE: Metal Fusion/Metal Masters/Metal Fury [HOBBY] - UGottaCetus - Mar. 20, 2012
That's BlackHeart1216, and his avatar is a picture of Nick Fury.