RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Jul. 07, 2013
{| class="wikitable"
|Full Width:
|45 mm
|Minimum Width:
|40 mm
|Full Height:
|9 mm(including Crystal Wheel peg)
|Minimum Height:
|4 mm
|}
Aaaaand there's Dark Knight!
{| class="wikitable"
|Full Width:
|21 mm
|Minimum Width:
|20 mm
|}
Aaand ther's LW160! You should know that the minimum width is not regarding the tip lock. I did this becuase all tip locks are the same width.
So anyway, I'm just gonna add these. Im also gonna include thaat Hasbro is releasing this Bey as Ronin Dragoon. But should i add another note or do i include it in the same one thats already there?
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Kai-V - Jul. 07, 2013
Eh, you forgot to go in three dimensions ... A Crystal Wheel also has a height. Actually, why are you posting this when everything is on Beywiki already ?
http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Dark_Knight_Dragooon_LW160BSF
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - ryugavskyoya1 - Jul. 07, 2013
I don't know about you, guys, but so many people have been saying that BSF blades don't help, and from my experience, when used on a 230 height track, the blades DO help with sway defense when swayed. And when its low on rotation, the blades sort of pop the beyblade back up when they scrape.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Jul. 08, 2013
(Jul. 07, 2013 3:39 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Eh, you forgot to go in three dimensions ... A Crystal Wheel also has a height. Actually, why are you posting this when everything is on Beywiki already ?
http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Dark_Knight_Dragooon_LW160BSF
I didn't even notice those, but I did include heights for DK. But thanks for telling me, it save me some work!
(Jul. 07, 2013 4:07 AM)ryugavskyoya1 Wrote: I don't know about you, guys, but so many people have been saying that BSF blades don't help, and from my experience, when used on a 230 height track, the blades DO help with sway defense when swayed. And when its low on rotation, the blades sort of pop the beyblade back up when they scrape.
Thanks for the info, but I cant add it unless there is proof tht this normally happens. Could you do test or a video? Its ok if you cant
EDIT: Turns out that the Draft in my OP didn't have those wikitables, so I added them. There was non for LW160, so I'm just gonna add mine.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Jul. 11, 2013
I added Ronin Dragoon to the note at the top, and I put in my LW160 wikitable. Im planning on putting this in the other versions section:'
*'''Ronin Dragoon LW160BSF''' - Released by Hasbro(Redesigned Stone Face, red Crystal Wheel)
Please tell me if I did this wrong or if it doesn't belong in the article.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - LMAO - Jul. 11, 2013
There is also another new version of Ronin Dragoon that you should add in there.
It is called the "Griffin Dragoon Air Synchrome" 2 pack and it comes with Ronin Dragoon SA165WSF.
Look it up in the General Hasbro Topic, it's a few pages back.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Jul. 13, 2013
Forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me!
*'''Ronin Dragoon SA165WSF''' - Released as part of a two-pack with Archer Griffin C145S(Black Dragoon, red Crystal Wheel, red track and bottom)
Is this correct?
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Cannon - Jul. 13, 2013
^ Black Track and Bottom if I recall correctly.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Nemo - Jul. 13, 2013
I think so theres a slight mistake in a word.
After "Dragooon is currently the third heaviest Chrome Wheel available, behind Wyvang, Balro, and Girago respectively." It should be fourth heaviest Chrome Wheel available, behind Wyvang, Balro and Girago respectively.
It makes :-
1. Wyvang
2. Balro
3. Girago
AND
4.* Dragooon
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Cannon - Jul. 13, 2013
If it is fourth, it should be left out lol. Fourth seems really excluded.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Nemo - Jul. 13, 2013
yeah! Thats what I am talking about. That point should be corrected! Usually First Three are considered!
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Jul. 14, 2013
I edited the first paragraph with this:
Dragooon is currently the only Chrome Wheel capable of left rotation. It can be Synchromed with Chrome Wheels that spin in the opposite direction, but the combo it is in can only spin left if Dragooon is placed on top of the other Chrome Wheel.\
Im gonna add those other versions this. By the way, is Ronin Dragoons element Sky or something else? I would suspect that they changed it
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Nemo - Jul. 14, 2013
Yeah! Can't wait for the Ronin Dragooon to be added. I may give you suggestion of 1 more combo in BB-10 customization.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Jul. 14, 2013
Ok, thanks for the help! This looks almost done!
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Tri - Jul. 15, 2013
Why is the combo Wyvang Dragooon SA165 (attack mode) R2F not on there??!! It did amazing in tests! It was getting 80% in testing I did against top tier defense combinations.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Aug. 23, 2013
Sorry for the long wait, but Ive added Wyvang Dragooon to the article! What do you guys think of it? Also, what do you think of the substitute parts in the customs section(like Dragooon instead of Gargole for Gargole Dragooon) , which I listed out of prior knowledge of the parts?
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - diblee123 - Aug. 23, 2013
(Feb. 15, 2013 6:54 PM)UGottaCetus Wrote: ===Use in Stamina/Spin-Equalizer Customization===
Dragooon's is useful in the top-tier customizations MSF/MSF-H Dragooon/Gargole/Killerken/Revizer Dragooon SA165(Normal Mode)BWD/EWD. This combo has a large amount of [[Zombie | Life After Death]], which gives it the ability to roll on the Stadium surface for extended periods of time after toppling.
^How's this?
I am sure W2D is better than BWD for spin equalizers.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Cannon - Aug. 24, 2013
I agree with W2D being better as well. BWD is too pointy for it to make enough contact to the stadium, but the former is really easy to be knocked off balance.
But BWD seems to have had a lot of success in tournaments and tests.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Aug. 24, 2013
Ok, I will put W2D before BWD in the list.
EDIT: Should be better now.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - diblee123 - Aug. 25, 2013
(Aug. 24, 2013 2:21 AM)Cannon Wrote: I agree with W2D being better as well. BWD is too pointy for it to make enough contact to the stadium, but the former is really easy to be knocked off balance.
But BWD seems to have had a lot of success in tournaments and tests.
Killerken Genbull SA165EWD vs. Reviser Dragooon B : D
Beys alternated launching first. New EWD, 5:30 min. B : D.
Genbull: wins, 6/10 (All OS)
Dragooon: wins, 4/10 (All OS)
Killerken Genbull SA165EWD win rate: 60%
Killerken Genbull SA165W2D vs. Reviser Dragooon B : D
Beys alternated launching first. 5:30 min. mold B : D.
Genbull: wins, 8/10 (All OS)
Dragooon: wins, 2/10 (All OS)
Killerken Genbull SA165W2D win rate: 80%
Killerken Genbull SA165BWD vs. Reviser Dragooon B : D
Beys alternated launching first. 5:30 min. B : D.
Genbull: wins, 2/10 (All OS)
Dragooon: wins, 8/10 (All OS)
Killerken Genbull SA165BWD win rate: 20%
All above tests by theblackdragon. BWD fails.
Note: Remember, spin equalizers can be left or right, they just need to be the opposite rotation of their opponent.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - UGottaCetus - Sep. 03, 2013
Now that that whole tip thing is out of the way, are there any other suggestions for this draft? Anything else someone would like for me to add? I do know of the Air Synchrom two pak, and I will add that into the draft right after finishing this post. But other than that, its looking about finished.
EDIT: Just noticed the 2 pack ver. is already in the draft.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - diblee123 - Sep. 03, 2013
Ingulit made a draft where Duo Cygnus 160PD is top tier stamina. Since the only way to get a 160 height track is to buy DKD and Guardian Revizer, I think LW160 isn't useless. BSF also found use in the combo Killerken Revizer SR200BSF. I think Tri tested that combo.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - Kai-V - Sep. 04, 2013
I want to work on this draft and get it published in the next few days, but here are a few notes that I realised just upon briefly reading the draft in the first post :
- "Synchrom" is a noun and cannot really be conjugated, at least not professionally. Can you work on rewording all instances where "synchromed" is written to avoid this grammatical issue ?
- Nothing should be refered to as "BB-10". That is just lazy and really unprofessional.
- "Sway out" is also not an expression we should seriously use. Either talk about "being victim to a Zero-G Attack", or/and reword it.
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - MacDuff - Sep. 04, 2013
(Sep. 03, 2013 7:05 PM)diblee123 Wrote: Ingulit made a draft where Duo Cygnus 160PD is top tier stamina. Since the only way to get a 160 height track is to buy DKD and Guardian Revizer, I think LW160 isn't useless. BSF also found use in the combo Killerken Revizer SR200BSF. I think Tri tested that combo.
Duo Cygnus 160PD and Killerken Revizer SR200BSF are combos for the BBG-04, right?
RE: Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Draft - *Ginga* - Sep. 05, 2013
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| image = DarkKnightDragooon.jpg
| full item name = Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF
| item number = BBG-16
| beyblade system = [[Beyblade Zero-G]]
| beyblade type = [[Attack]]
| element = Sky
}}
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'''Note:''' The spelling "Dragooon" was probably chosen by TAKARA-TOMY to clearly differentiate the Bakuten Shoot Beyblade Dragoon tops and this Zero-G Beyblade.
Dark Knight Dragooon is the only left-spin Beyblade in the Zero-G series.
Hasbro released this Beyblade with the name '''Ronin Dragoon'''.
==Stone Face: Dragooon==
*'''Weight:''' 1.22 grams
With an original release of a blood red Stone Face, the mark on this sticker illustrates the profile view of a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon Dragon], drawn in a European fashion.
==Chrome Wheel: Dragooon==
{| class="wikitable"
|Weight:
|30.90 grams
|Full Width:
|47.30 mm
|Maximum Height:
|6.34 mm
|Minimum Height:
|3.1 mm
|}
Dragooon is currently the only Chrome Wheel capable of left rotation. It can be placed with Chrome Wheels that spin in the opposite direction, but the combo it is in can only spin left if Dragooon is placed on top of the other Chrome Wheel.
The Chrome Wheel depicts three dragon heads and two wings throughout its circumference. It features several small slopes in its design. Two heads circle almost half of its circumference in a lateral way, while a third head is flat on top, offering relief upwards by its lower jaw and teeth. Two webbed wings also cover the rest of the design, with four claws that appear to be gripping the hole where the orb from the Crystal Wheel gets inserted. The sides of the Dragooon Chrome Wheel are therefore composed of the top of one dragon head, the sides of two other heads, the curved structures of the wings' fingers, and the straight ends of the membrane between them. Overall, Dragooon has four sections, each similar in size and shape.
===When used as the top Chrome Wheel of a Synchrom===
When placed on top of almost any other Chrome Wheel, Dragooon can deliver strong attacks, but its protrusions are small compared to other Chrome Wheels and thus it is outclassed in attack power. However, this Chrome Wheel's capability for left rotation gives it an advantage over other, more powerful right-spin Chrome Wheels because it will not be heavily affected by Zero-G Attacks. Its slight slopes can be used to attack opposing Beys and knock them away when used with low tracks, but this has not proven to be a reliable characteristic. Because of its high weight, it can handle recoil very well when Synchromed with rounder, smoother or heavy Chrome Wheels, giving it use in [[Defense]] customs. Dragooon has terrible balance, making it bad for [[Survival | Stamina]], but it's spin-equalization ability gives it use in many useful spin-equalizing Stamina combos. Overall, Dragooon has use in Attack, Defense, or Stamina customizations and is a part of several top-tier customs for MFB and Zero-G, like MSF-H Reviser Dragooon B. This Chrome Wheel also has the ability to resist Sway Attacks from most right-spinning Beys because of it's left-rotation, giving it a large advantage over attackers. Thus, Dragooon is among the most useful top Chrome Wheels in Zero-G.
===When used as the bottom Chrome Wheel of a Synchrom===
When Synchromed on the bottom of a right-spin Bey, Dragooon provides weight and small amounts of Smash Attack, but is an unreliable Smash attack combo because its contact points are usually blocked by other Chrome Wheels. Also, its numerous but small protrusions are not usually enough to defeat a defense combo that is heavy or has low recoil. Because of its lack of balance, other, more balanced Chrome Wheels, such as Killerken, are generally used instead of it. However, when on the bottom of a right-spin Synchrom, Dragooon's slopes face downward and can force opponents downward, destabilizing them, but this is not a reliable trait and causes Dragooon to lose Stamina in the process. Thus, Dragooon should not be chosen as a lower Chrome Wheel unless there are not any better options like Killerken, Genbull, Gryph, or Revizer.
===When in Synchrom with another Dragooon===
When Dragooon is doubled to make Synchrom, it becomes much heavier, allowing it to handle recoil better. Since it has a similar shape on both sides, its contact points are exposed well and it retains its Smash Attack ability. That being said, it also exposes much more aggressive contact points that are present on the back of dragon heads. This allows for stronger Smash Attacks, but much higher recoil as well. While this can sometimes be effective, the recoil often proves too much for Dragooon to handle. Thus, there are better Chrome Wheels to be used with Dragooon, such as Killerken, Gargole, Revizer, and Wyvang, but Dragooon can still be used in Synchrom with another Dragooon to make a heavy, balanced combo.
==Use in Zero-G Customizations==
===Use in Balance Customization===
Dragooon is useful in the Zero-G Balance custom Dragooon/Phoenic/Ifraid/Gargole Dragooon LW160/SP230/E230/SA165CF/GCF/GF. Dragooon's balance when Synchromed paired with the left-spinning Stamina that LW160 provides allows this combo to outspin opponents it cannot KO.
===Use in Zero-G Defense Customization===
Because of its high weight and capability for left rotation, Dragooon can be effectively used to defeat right spinning Beys in the powerful Sway Defense custom MSF/MSF-H Gargole/Killerken/Revizer Dragooon B. B's strong resistance to Zero-G attacks combined with the weight and spin equalization that Dragooon provides makes it a very difficult combo to defeat.
===Use in Stamina/Spin-Equalizer Customization===
Dragooon's heavy weight and its ability to spin left also makes it useful in the customizations MSF/MSF-H Dragooon/Gargole/Killerken/Revizer Dragooon SA165EWD, which utilizes Dragooon's Spin Stealing abilities with SA165's high [[Life After Death]] abilities and EWD's high amounts of Precession.
==Customizations for the BeyStadium Attack Type==
===Use in Attack/Spin-Equalizer Customization===
Dragooon is an essential part of the useful customization Wyvang Dragooon SA165(Zero-G Attack Mode)R2F/LRF/RF. This combo is able to outspin many Stamina and Defense due to Dragooon's ability to spin-equalize and R2F's ability to tornado stall and can also KO Beys with defense tracks like E230 and BD145 due to Wyvang's excellent smash attack capability.
===Use in Attack/Spin-Equalizer Customization===
Dragooon can be used in the custom MSF/MSF-H Killerken Dragooon DF105LRF. Its low center of gravity, weight and attack power allow it to KO and outspin other Beyblades.
===Use in Balance Customization===
Dragooon is a part of the top-tier Balance custom MSF/MSF-H Wyvang Dragooon BD145RDF. It has strong defense because of its weight, can outspin other Beys through spin equalization and can KO Beys because of its Smash Attack if launched aggressively.
===Use in Stamina/Spin Equalizer Customization===
MSF/MSF-H Gargole/Killerken/Revizer Dragooon SA165EWD/W2D is also very useful in the BeyStadium Attack Type because it utilizes Dragooon's Spin Stealing abilities with SA165's high [[Life After Death]] abilities and EWD's high amounts of Precession.
==Crystal Wheel: Dark Knight==
{| class="wikitable"
|Weight:
|3.87 grams
|Full Width:
|45.18 mm
|Minimum Width:
|41.0 mm
|Maximum Height:
|6.78 mm
|Minimum Height:
|3.5 mm
|}
Dark Knight is composed mostly of sharp studs on one half of the Crystal Wheel, with the other half depicting a aggressively curved blade. A slight, smooth slope is created by this blade in Dark Knight's design. Dark Knight is clear white in color. Like Dragooon, Dark Knight can be fit on any other Chrome Wheel, even right-spinning ones. It must be placed in Crystal Up Mode, however, to make the customization it is a part of spin left.
When paired with Dragooon and other Chrome Wheels, Dark Knight can provide some Smash Attack, but like all other Crystal Wheels it is rendered useless because of its light weight, compared to Synchromes.
==Track: Left Wing 160==
{| class="wikitable"
|Full Width:
|21 mm
|Minimum Width:
|20 mm
|}
The LW160 Track is in most aspects entirely identical to W145, however the wings face the left, and its height is different. This height difference makes the wings on the track much more susceptible to attacks from a shorter Beyblade, which will usually severely destabilize the Bey using LW160 and can sometimes damage the track. This track's counterpart, 160, albeit not having as much Stamina as LW160 in left spin, does not suffer from the same destabilization problems. The affect produced by the wings in right spin does not prove greater than 160. Thus, because of the fact that the strong affect produced by the wings is neutralized in left spin due to destabilization, this track only provides use when used on a left spinning Bey in battle against a Bey with a taller track.
==Bottom: Blade Semi Flat==
| class="wikitable"
|Weight:
|1.19 gram
|Full Width:
|19.70 mm
|Inner Blade Width:
|16.04 mm
|Tip Width:
|5.50 mm
|Flat Tip Width:
|2.66 mm
|Full Height:
|10.89 mm
|Tip Height:
|7.48 mm
|
While its tip is simply a slightly wider Semi Flat, it is mounted on an imposing base with a linear row of 8 blades facing left circling its circumference, as well as 8 ridges below them that circle the tip. The blades are shaped similarly to LW160's wings, however they are less spaced. This tip should not be used on [[Attack]] customs because of its lack of speed and mobility. While at first the blades seemingly help produce a downward force effect, they are to small to make any difference in Stamina. These blades never touch the Stadium floor. Instead, the lower 8 ridges do, and while they do help the Bey regain balance, the effect they produce is negligible. In the Zero-G Stadium Attack Type beys using BSF are extremely difficult to Zero-G KO and the tip has the ability to wobble for extended periods of time and sometimes regain its balance, allowing it to outspin opponents. When in left-rotation, it is even harder to sway out of the stadium. It also can be used in semi-aggressive balance customs as well as wobbling combonations for the BeyStadium Attack Type. Overall, BSF is a very useful bottom for both the Zero-G Stadium and the BeyStadium Attack Type.
===Use in Zero-G Defense Customization===
BSF finds great use in the Zero-G Defense custom, MSF-H Revizer Revizer E230BSF. Its semi-aggressive movements allow it to evade the effects of Zero-G Attacks.
===Use in Balance Customization===
BSF also does well in the BeyStadium Attack Type, in the Balance custom MSF-H Gryph Gryph E230BSF. This custom utilizes Gryph's Force Smash abilities with E230's pinch KO abilities and BSF's ability to wobble at extreme angles to make a powerful Balance customization.
==Other Versions==
*'''Gryph Dragooon SA165WSF Coro Dra Model''' - Special CoroCoro Lottery Campaign, only 10 were available (Black Dragooon, Track and Bottom, red Gryph)
*'''Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Limited Golden Dragon Model''' - WHF 2012 Summer exclusivity, sold at the price of 1,100 yen (Gold Chrome Wheel, Crystal Wheel, Track and Bottom, black Stone Face)
*'''Ronin Dragoon LW160BSF''' - Released by Hasbro (Redesigned Stone Face, red Crystal Wheel)
*'''Ronin Dragoon SA165WSF''' - Released as part of a two-pack with Archer Griffin C145S (Redesigned Stone Face, Black Dragoon, red Crystal Wheel, black track and bottom)
==Gallery==
ImagearkKnightDragooonGold1.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Limited Gold Dragon Model with all stickers
ImagearkKnightDragooonGold2.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF Limited Gold Dragon Model without Face sticker and with Zero-G Compact Launcher L
ImagearkKnightDragooonSynchrom.jpg|WBBA's photograph of regular and Limited Gold Dragon Model recolour of Dragooon
ImagearkKnightDragooonZeroGCompactLauncherL.jpg|Zero-G Compact Launcher L
Image:GryphDragooonFace.jpg|Gryph Dragooon Stone Face
Image:GryphDragooonSA165WSF.jpg|Gryph Dragooon SA165WSF
====Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF - Original Version====
ImagearkKnightDragooon1.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon top view
ImagearkKnightDragooon2.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon 3/4 view
ImagearkKnightDragooon3.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon side view 1
ImagearkKnightDragooon-4.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon side view 2
ImagearkKnightDragooon.5.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon bottom view
ImagearkKnightDragooon_6.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon (Crystal Up) top view
ImagearkKnightDragooon7.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon (Crystal Up) 3/4 view
ImagearkKnightDragooon8.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon (Crystal Up) side view 1
ImagearkKnightDragooon-9.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon (Crystal Up) side view 2
ImagearkKnightDragooon_10.jpg|Dark Knight Dragooon (Crystal Up) bottom view
ImagearkKnightDragooon.11.jpg|Dragooon top view
ImagearkKnightDragooon12.jpg|Dragooon bottom view
ImagearkKnightDragooon13.jpg|Dark Knight top view
ImagearkKnightDragooon14.jpg|Dark Knight bottom view
ImagearkKnightDragooon_15.jpg|Left Wing 160
ImagearkKnightDragooon.-16-.jpg|Left Wing 160 - 3/4 view
ImagearkKnightDragooon17.jpg|Blade Semi-Flat
ImagearkKnightDragooon_18.jpg|Blade Semi-Flat - 3/4 view
ImagearkKnightDragooon19.jpg|BSF vs SF comparison
==Overall==
While Dark Knight and LW160 do not provide much use, Dark Knight Dragooon does contain two very useful parts, Dragooon and BSF. While it is best as a spin equalizing Chrome Wheel, Dragooon's heavy weight and capability for left rotation make it one of, if not the best, Chrome Wheels in Zero-G. Its amazing versatility and the fact it can be used in all categories of customization make it a very reliable competitive part. Also, BSF is a very good bottom for resisting Zero-G Attacks in a Zero-G Stadium and for Balance customizations in the BeyStadium Attack Type. Therefore, '''this Bey is a must-have for all Bladers, and an excellent addition to any collection.'''
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I went ahead and made the edits Kai-V asked for. I probably missed a couple, ut I think I got most of them. I also made some minor stuff as well.
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