(Aug. 31, 2022  2:21 PM)Burn87 Wrote:

(Aug. 25, 2022  8:01 PM)GodzillaFan101 Wrote: I want a slow but steady spin steal kinda driver

you're looking at MBrDr (Metal Bearing Drift)

(Aug. 31, 2022  2:22 PM)GodzillaFan101 Wrote:

(Aug. 31, 2022  2:21 PM)Burn87 Wrote: you're looking at MBrDr (Metal Bearing Drift)

it sounds fun. but almost impossilbe for me to make

(Aug. 31, 2022  2:25 PM)Burn87 Wrote:

(Aug. 31, 2022  2:22 PM)GodzillaFan101 Wrote: it sounds fun. but almost impossilbe for me to make

here's another cool thing, TT is releasing MBrDr like, right now, in a wave of 300 drivers released

(Aug. 31, 2022  9:28 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Aug. 28, 2022  10:30 PM)MWF Wrote: Bearing+Hold: Essentially what if the awakened Hold was even better?

I mean if Metal Bearing Drift is a thing that can exist Bearing Hold (BH) shouldn't be a problem

Consider this: Why does MBrDr work? Well, both of them have fixed shafts, wide sharp bases, and generally have similar designs. Drift is, in a sense, a flattened Bearing driver. Combining these is easy, they're already nearly the same short of the angles involved and Drift's plastic guardpiece, so just shape the tip a little differently to fit between the two extremes, use the base Drift body for it, and huzzah! MBrDr!

Hold free spins, so I assume you think that it'll work there too, but the truth is there's a key difference: Hold's shaft isn't fixed in place like Bearing, Drift, or even Gyro, it's allowed to wobble around instead, and this is Hold's defining feature, so it's not really a "Hold" driver without it. Where are you going to put a bearing on that? The most viable point where the shaft and body meet happens to also be its most flexible point, so it has to be able to rotate. You can't fit a normal bearing there and have Hold wobble around, the bearing would lock it into a single fixed axis. At that point it's not really Hold anymore, it's lost Hold's defining feature so it's really just a Bearing someone flattened down. It would be an interesting Flat Bearing variant, but I'd say that would be closer to Assault+Bearing than Hold+Bearing by that point.

There's just not a reasonable way I've come up with to allow it to fit a bearing that can bend around like hold without completely overhauling Hold's base body, and that alternative would likely be fragile anyways. This idea is one that sounds good, but just isn't feasible at all.

(Sep. 04, 2022  1:27 PM)Burn87 Wrote: Metal Bearing Drift and High Xtend+'
a way this could be pulled off
Having High Xtend+' height and mode change gimmick, but the wide guard area on drift changes mode with Bearing' freespin bearing gimmick and the freespin plate from Metal Bearing Drift
i am open to any suggestions to change this

(Sep. 07, 2022  11:58 PM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2022  1:27 PM)Burn87 Wrote: Metal Bearing Drift and High Xtend+'
a way this could be pulled off
Having High Xtend+' height and mode change gimmick, but the wide guard area on drift changes mode with Bearing' freespin bearing gimmick and the freespin plate from Metal Bearing Drift
i am open to any suggestions to change this

How do you intend to change the height of a Bearing tip?

How does the Drift guard change shape as a result of that?

(Sep. 08, 2022  12:59 AM)Burn87 Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2022  11:58 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: How do you intend to change the height of a Bearing tip?

How does the Drift guard change shape as a result of that?

the drift guard is the part that changes modes, with a slightly modified shape of course, but there is a cutout that is just big enough for the bearing tip to go through, which results in being able to change from a passive stamina type mode, to an LAD saturated defense mode because the drift guard will line up perfectly with the widest part of the bearing tip, and a hyper aggressive attack mode where the bearing tip is fully concealed, resulting in a giant hole flat tip, and i see the potential problems with this too, like the risk of the spring breaking from the size required of it, the risk of the bearing shaft breaking from it not being concealed on the sides at all, and also the bearing tip getting locked in place in defense mode, and also the risk of self K.O in attack mode, and even the risk of there not being enough room for the spring required for the Xtend gimmick

(Sep. 08, 2022  1:48 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Sep. 08, 2022  12:59 AM)Burn87 Wrote: the drift guard is the part that changes modes, with a slightly modified shape of course, but there is a cutout that is just big enough for the bearing tip to go through, which results in being able to change from a passive stamina type mode, to an LAD saturated defense mode because the drift guard will line up perfectly with the widest part of the bearing tip, and a hyper aggressive attack mode where the bearing tip is fully concealed, resulting in a giant hole flat tip, and i see the potential problems with this too, like the risk of the spring breaking from the size required of it, the risk of the bearing shaft breaking from it not being concealed on the sides at all, and also the bearing tip getting locked in place in defense mode, and also the risk of self K.O in attack mode, and even the risk of there not being enough room for the spring required for the Xtend gimmick

If it is a full sized bearing tip on this thing, then the Attack mode would be so wide that it wouldn't spin properly at all. This does not work.

If the free spinning tip is smaller, it will not have the LAD you desire.

One way or another, this is probably overdesigned, and I don't see it all coming together exactly as described here.

(May. 21, 2023  7:45 AM)ReekoBlader Wrote: Quake driver but better.
Perhaps with a ball bearing in it.

(May. 23, 2023  9:45 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(May. 21, 2023  7:45 AM)ReekoBlader Wrote: Quake driver but better.
Perhaps with a ball bearing in it.

Sadly I don't think this helps all that much. Ball bearings are good for making things spin smoother, but Quake only works because it can push against the ground and hop. Put these two ideas together and you get a weak bearing based driver that just flops over because its base isn't level, but also can't hop either because it doesn't have any traction anymore. It's the worst of both worlds.

Sadly I just don't think these "Quake" styled drivers will ever be a good competitive design no matter what you do to them, though they are fun as heck. Making Operate more like Quake would've been quite fun actually.

Make something like a bearing based Iron with a wide enough base for LAD and then we'd be in business though. JA Industries. has recently shown me how effective this is in PLA, throwing something like this in Burst could be quite entertaining.

(May. 24, 2023  6:17 AM)ReekoBlader Wrote:

(May. 23, 2023  9:45 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: Sadly I don't think this helps all that much. Ball bearings are good for making things spin smoother, but Quake only works because it can push against the ground and hop. Put these two ideas together and you get a weak bearing based driver that just flops over because its base isn't level, but also can't hop either because it doesn't have any traction anymore. It's the worst of both worlds.

Sadly I just don't think these "Quake" styled drivers will ever be a good competitive design no matter what you do to them, though they are fun as heck. Making Operate more like Quake would've been quite fun actually.

Make something like a bearing based Iron with a wide enough base for LAD and then we'd be in business though. JA Industries. has recently shown me how effective this is in PLA, throwing something like this in Burst could be quite entertaining.

I'm so sorry MagikHorse... but I meant the Quest Driver from Orb Egis.
It's been so long since I seen the bey, I got its name mixed up with another driver...

(May. 24, 2023  6:17 AM)ReekoBlader Wrote: I'm so sorry MagikHorse... but I meant the Quest Driver from Orb Egis.
It's been so long since I seen the bey, I got its name mixed up with another driver...