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RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Dodgest - Jul. 17, 2020
Can those red popput things be removed? Since I'm buying 3 of them (1 will be used for Uranus)
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - NAP - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 7:42 AM)Dodgest Wrote: Can those red popput things be removed? Since I'm buying 3 of them (1 will be used for Uranus)
Nope! If you do, that piece will become ineligible for tournament play.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Limetka - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 7:58 AM)NAP Wrote:(Jul. 17, 2020 7:42 AM)Dodgest Wrote: Can those red popput things be removed? Since I'm buying 3 of them (1 will be used for Uranus)
Nope! If you do, that piece will become ineligible for tournament play.
I doubt that's what he meant...
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - marutti - Jul. 17, 2020
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - HakaishinLDrago - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 7:58 AM)NAP Wrote:(Jul. 17, 2020 7:42 AM)Dodgest Wrote: Can those red popput things be removed? Since I'm buying 3 of them (1 will be used for Uranus)
Nope! If you do, that piece will become ineligible for tournament play.
I doubt that'll the case because when I translate the description of 2D it says the barrier blades wear down changing the performance from a defense type to attack type (on purpose). Proof:
![[Image: bgcvpGf.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/bgcvpGf.jpg)
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - SupaDav03 - Jul. 17, 2020
Just mugen stadium VLc until the petals wilt, lol.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - KnightPro - Jul. 17, 2020
that driver is not a defense type at all lol
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Zeutron - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 7:00 PM)KnightPro Wrote: that driver is not a defense type at all lolI mean, why not. It could be considered mobile defense.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - LOL-y Rancher - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 7:10 PM)Zeutron Wrote:(Jul. 17, 2020 7:00 PM)KnightPro Wrote: that driver is not a defense type at all lolI mean, why not. It could be considered mobile defense.
I mean that's fair, but Mobius still feels closer to a Balance-Type Driver than a Defense-Type Driver in both concept and execution IMO.
Still, I am pretty interested in Variant Lucifer and will get it as soon as eBay sellers have it.
Also, boom! Another new video for this bey! Gonna get it for the cool launcher and the bey itself!
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - KnightPro - Jul. 17, 2020
wow the rubber blades seem to actually work and defend like it says
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - LOL-y Rancher - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 8:02 PM)KnightPro Wrote: wow the rubber blades seem to actually work and defend like it says
Yup, it's not too bad so far. It just needs a better Driver than Mobius, which is a bit too aggressive at times IMO.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - g2_ - Jul. 17, 2020
Wow, Lucifer seems promising.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Logic123ABC - Jul. 17, 2020
Honestly I'm pleasantly surprised with this release. Regardless of competitive value, I'll be picking this up.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Dodgest - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 7:58 AM)NAP Wrote:(Jul. 17, 2020 7:42 AM)Dodgest Wrote: Can those red popput things be removed? Since I'm buying 3 of them (1 will be used for Uranus)
Nope! If you do, that piece will become ineligible for tournament play.
Well I'm asking cus I plan to use the chassic on Uranus (I'll he buying 3 Licifer beys & I ordered 2 Uranus beys.) & I want to make the anime combo.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Limetka - Jul. 17, 2020
(Surprisingly) I think this has a niche in being used competitively, and that's against left-spin attackers. It obviously has really bad stamina (I still expected worse though) and the LAD isn't going to be that good either (though of course still good enough to beat Rage with something like Bearing). But seeing how it should completely shut down Rage, which I don't think any bey other than Lucifer can do right now, makes it really interesting.
also why is this bey like 2 times more expensive than others..
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Valtryek Aoi - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 9:56 PM)Limetka Wrote: (Surprisingly) I think this has a niche in being used competitively, and that's against left-spin attackers. It obviously has really bad stamina (I still expected worse though) and the LAD isn't going to be that good either. But seeing how it should completely shut down Rage, which I don't think any bey other than Lucifer can do right now, makes it really interesting.
Granted if the meta becomes just Rage and 3A, you may see many 2D counters if it's reliable enough. Maybe a few other things like stationary Brave sure, but Lucifer's main problem seems to be stamina.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Zeutron - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 9:59 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:Putting it on drivers that have really high pure stamina such as bearing as Limetka said should solve the problem. Since Lucifer takes up a larger amount of the centre of the stadium than beys usually do it’s possible it could have good destabilization usage since opponents will tilt along the stadium slope.(Jul. 17, 2020 9:56 PM)Limetka Wrote: (Surprisingly) I think this has a niche in being used competitively, and that's against left-spin attackers. It obviously has really bad stamina (I still expected worse though) and the LAD isn't going to be that good either. But seeing how it should completely shut down Rage, which I don't think any bey other than Lucifer can do right now, makes it really interesting.
Granted if the meta becomes just Rage and 3A, you may see many 2D counters if it's reliable enough. Maybe a few other things like stationary Brave sure, but Lucifer's main problem seems to be stamina.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - SupaDav03 - Jul. 17, 2020
I want to see some videos with aB At driver on VLc instead of Mobius.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Nitrogenic - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 9:56 PM)Limetka Wrote: (Surprisingly) I think this has a niche in being used competitively, and that's against left-spin attackers. It obviously has really bad stamina (I still expected worse though) and the LAD isn't going to be that good either (though of course still good enough to beat Rage with something like Bearing). But seeing how it should completely shut down Rage, which I don't think any bey other than Lucifer can do right now, makes it really interesting.
also why is this bey like 2 times more expensive than others..
It comes with a sparking launcher
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - snoc - Jul. 17, 2020
(Jul. 17, 2020 7:42 AM)Dodgest Wrote: Can those red popput things be removed? Since I'm buying 3 of them (1 will be used for Uranus)
If not removed, at least cut off.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Needforspeed - Jul. 18, 2020
https://youtu.be/kNwdsDQWjBc In this vid we can clearly see that VLc will maybe be rage counter looking forward to other testing tho
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - DeltaZakuro - Jul. 18, 2020
2D seems to hold up to it's reputation, i also noticed that 2D can spin steal a bit too, can you imagine this on Mirage? XD
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Needforspeed - Jul. 18, 2020
Chip - lucifer 5.53
Ring -Variant 5.93
Chassis-2D 47
Driver -mobious 7.7
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Zeutron - Jul. 18, 2020
(Jul. 18, 2020 12:12 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: 2D seems to hold up to it's reputation, i also noticed that 2D can spin steal a bit too, can you imagine this on Mirage? XDIt’s just spin equalization really and not full blown spin steal. It’s spin equalization is decently as powerful as a fairly good plastic equalization layer so Mirage is better off without it. The actual spin equilization strength comes from mobius.
RE: B-169 Starter Variant Lucifer.Mb 2D - Dodgest - Jul. 18, 2020
I saw on IG that there is a rare black version. I even saw a gold chassis of 1A