(Jul. 27, 2020  12:19 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2020  12:08 PM)Vtryuga Wrote: i do think that free vs lane will be one of the better battles of the legends tournament( maybe we can see free win and then lean goes full evil like phi and he upgrades his bey)

I honestly think the whole Free/Lane dynamic was there to hype up Lane and make him seem really powerful and intimidating and not really to imply some sort of large role for Free or rivalry with Lane. That would also explain why he beat mirage Fafnir in the manga and why then don’t feature the dynamic in the manga. If you notice when Lane beat Lui, based on the sound and facial expression Lui made he was obviously taken back by his relatively easy loss just like Free-but unlike Free, Lui tried to play it off by laughing further showing the audience that Lane is unnaturally powerful and has a special bond with his bey. They just want us to really fear Lane and they are showing us that he is hardly at even moderate potential as a rookie and yet, he is still insanely powerful to really make things dramatic and make us wonder how crazy powerful he will be by the legends festival and onward and its really working in my opinion.

(Jul. 27, 2020  12:19 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2020  12:08 PM)Vtryuga Wrote: i do think that free vs lane will be one of the better battles of the legends tournament( maybe we can see free win and then lean goes full evil like phi and he upgrades his bey)

I honestly think the whole Free/Lane dynamic was there to hype up Lane and make him seem really powerful and intimidating and not really to imply some sort of large role for Free or rivalry with Lane. That would also explain why he beat mirage Fafnir in the manga and why then don’t feature the dynamic in the manga. If you notice when Lane beat Lui, based on the sound and facial expression Lui made he was obviously taken back by his relatively easy loss just like Free-but unlike Free, Lui tried to play it off by laughing further showing the audience that Lane is unnaturally powerful and has a special bond with his bey. They just want us to really fear Lane and they are showing us that he is hardly at even moderate potential as a rookie and yet, he is still insanely powerful to really make things dramatic and make us wonder how crazy powerful he will be by the legends festival and onward and its really working in my opinion.

(Jul. 27, 2020  8:30 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 26, 2020  6:31 PM)rainy days Wrote: Lane is technically at the bottom at the legendary rank (he is 16th in world). Free won't be actually evil, I think he will just be scarred, disappear and reappear towards the end of the season. I highly doubt that Valt is weaker than Lane,( I'm kind of tired Lane being overhyped over 1 battle), I don't even think Lane is stronger Drum. Lane won't be stronger than Shu or Aiga. Hikaru couldn't even beat Lui so I don't see him being stronger than Aiga, Phi, or Drum. Delta isn't in the anime. Hyuga is not even close to Phi's power...

P.S Don't take this the wrong, my delivery was aggressive.

Honestly in my opinion you are kinda wrong. Free won’t turn evil nor will he be number 2 in the legends festival since his role in this season isn’t huge and he is just another legendary blader. Lane isn’t making him turn evil nor is he corrupting him, Free is just enraged at the thought of Lane since Lane is a rookie and beat him with next to no effort and we can’t forget Free’s hatred of bladers with evil aura as well. Drum is ranked 6 and isn’t an important character who is going to suddenly experience major growth plus Lane beat the number four (Free) so Lane is better than him. Aiga isn’t really important either and since Lane is getting trained by Shu and is already naturally strong it wouldn’t be a stretch to say he is probably better than Aiga too. Lui is ranked number 5 so while Hikaru probably isn’t better than Lui, Phi and Drum he could probably still probably decently trade blows with them since Hyuga could put up a fight against Lui who is tougher than them both since they are ranked lower than Lui. We don’t know if Lane is stronger than or equal to Shu but he said Shu is his main target for the moment when he raises his resonance to the max-so he will likely eventually get powerful enough to at least rival Shu. Lastly, Free won’t disappear and reappear. He’s not a main cast member so he isn’t going to have some big plot entered around his character.

(Jul. 27, 2020  1:59 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: I think Sparking would be better if Harry got more screen time. And Ryota. Those two characters would make Sparking amazing.

(Jul. 27, 2020  3:29 PM)rainy days Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2020  8:30 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Honestly in my opinion you are kinda wrong. Free won’t turn evil nor will he be number 2 in the legends festival since his role in this season isn’t huge and he is just another legendary blader. Lane isn’t making him turn evil nor is he corrupting him, Free is just enraged at the thought of Lane since Lane is a rookie and beat him with next to no effort and we can’t forget Free’s hatred of bladers with evil aura as well. Drum is ranked 6 and isn’t an important character who is going to suddenly experience major growth plus Lane beat the number four (Free) so Lane is better than him. Aiga isn’t really important either and since Lane is getting trained by Shu and is already naturally strong it wouldn’t be a stretch to say he is probably better than Aiga too. Lui is ranked number 5 so while Hikaru probably isn’t better than Lui, Phi and Drum he could probably still probably decently trade blows with them since Hyuga could put up a fight against Lui who is tougher than them both since they are ranked lower than Lui. We don’t know if Lane is stronger than or equal to Shu but he said Shu is his main target for the moment when he raises his resonance to the max-so he will likely eventually get powerful enough to at least rival Shu. Lastly, Free won’t disappear and reappear. He’s not a main cast member so he isn’t going to have some big plot entered around his character.

Just because Free isn't a main cast member doesn't mean that he wouldn't return. Valt wasn't really in Chozetsu towards the beginning, but appeared towards the end. Lane beat Free with Giest while he had Uranus then they both evolved their beys and trained. So it would be unfair to say that Lane is stronger than Free. You can't really say Aiga isn't important since he hasn't been able to show his power in Sparking yet. But other than that your arguments about Hikaru and Hyuga made sense(even though Lui was having fun against both of them). But I feel that when Lane eventually goes full on maxed out resonance, his bey will break, but before that, his power would probably be right below Shu's.

(Jul. 27, 2020  6:36 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2020  3:29 PM)rainy days Wrote: Just because Free isn't a main cast member doesn't mean that he wouldn't return. Valt wasn't really in Chozetsu towards the beginning, but appeared towards the end. Lane beat Free with Giest while he had Uranus then they both evolved their beys and trained. So it would be unfair to say that Lane is stronger than Free. You can't really say Aiga isn't important since he hasn't been able to show his power in Sparking yet. But other than that your arguments about Hikaru and Hyuga made sense(even though Lui was having fun against both of them). But I feel that when Lane eventually goes full on maxed out resonance, his bey will break, but before that, his power would probably be right below Shu's.

I just don’t think Free will suddenly disappear and appear during the end for a whole new arc for his character because they aren’t going to do another arc for him since he isn’t that important and the only legendary bladers in the main cast are Valt and Rantaro (I don’t know about Shu yet). Valt did disappear early only to suddenly return later and he did have multiple arcs in chouzetsu but Valt WAS confirmed to be part of the main cast of cho z alongside Lui even though they barely had screen time.

(Jul. 27, 2020  11:49 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2020  6:36 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I just don’t think Free will suddenly disappear and appear during the end for a whole new arc for his character because they aren’t going to do another arc for him since he isn’t that important and the only legendary bladers in the main cast are Valt and Rantaro (I don’t know about Shu yet). Valt did disappear early only to suddenly return later and he did have multiple arcs in chouzetsu but Valt WAS confirmed to be part of the main cast of cho z alongside Lui even though they barely had screen time.

If free does some shenanigans thing And become the strongest i swear i gonna Quit watching the anime i mean that is stupid writing I mean the manga even skip free battles with the brothers so he isn't very special in this season

(Jul. 27, 2020  11:49 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2020  6:36 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I just don’t think Free will suddenly disappear and appear during the end for a whole new arc for his character because they aren’t going to do another arc for him since he isn’t that important and the only legendary bladers in the main cast are Valt and Rantaro (I don’t know about Shu yet). Valt did disappear early only to suddenly return later and he did have multiple arcs in chouzetsu but Valt WAS confirmed to be part of the main cast of cho z alongside Lui even though they barely had screen time.

If free does some shenanigans thing And become the strongest i swear i gonna Quit watching the anime i mean that is stupid writing I mean the manga even skip free battles with the brothers so he isn't very special in this season

(Jul. 28, 2020  12:47 AM)snoc Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2020  11:49 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: If free does some shenanigans thing And become the strongest i swear i gonna Quit watching the anime i mean that is stupid writing I mean the manga even skip free battles with the brothers so he isn't very special in this season

The writing isnt stupid dude........Free's battles with the brothers were filler added into the anime to stretch time. And free is shown to e an important character already being a legendary blader, able to do intense and special training, and being able to fight Lane (he still lost, but still).

(Jul. 27, 2020  11:52 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2020  9:44 AM)g2_ Wrote: And what about Valt?

To be honest I almost forgot about him but it’s really hard to say. Since Valt is ranked higher than Shu as the number one blader and seems to have a large role in sparking he is likely more powerful than Lane atm but idk if Lane will surpass him in the legends festival. I doubt he will since the festival is happening relatively early though. From the way this looks to me I could even see Valt winning the tournament.

(Jul. 28, 2020  1:02 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  12:47 AM)snoc Wrote: The writing isnt stupid dude........Free's battles with the brothers were filler added into the anime to stretch time. And free is shown to e an important character already being a legendary blader, able to do intense and special training, and being able to fight Lane (he still lost, but still).

He isn’t a particularly important character this season. All the legends are very powerful and superior unlike previous recurring characters but they aren’t all important and it’s particularly Rantaro and Valt that are important simply due to their casting roles.

(Jul. 28, 2020  1:47 AM)snoc Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  1:02 AM)Zeutron Wrote: He isn’t a particularly important character this season. All the legends are very powerful and superior unlike previous recurring characters but they aren’t all important and it’s particularly Rantaro and Valt that are important simply due to their casting roles.

Yeah, Free is doing stuff in Spain so they cant always focus on him of course. Its easier to use Rantaro and Valt cause they are nearby the twins in Japan (the bey gym isn't far from their restaurant/house). And the legends are still important people. They may not show up much (well at least not in the anime) but they are still (meant to be) portrayed as incredibly strong people to look up too and challenge.

(Jul. 28, 2020  1:56 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  1:47 AM)snoc Wrote: Yeah, Free is doing stuff in Spain so they cant always focus on him of course. Its easier to use Rantaro and Valt cause they are nearby the twins in Japan (the bey gym isn't far from their restaurant/house). And the legends are still important people. They may not show up much (well at least not in the anime) but they are still (meant to be) portrayed as incredibly strong people to look up too and challenge.

The thing is Valt and Rantaro have also generally been two of the most important characters throughout burst history since they have been main caste members twice even if they weren’t so powerful back then.

(Jul. 28, 2020  2:06 AM)snoc Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  1:56 AM)Zeutron Wrote: The thing is Valt and Rantaro have also generally been two of the most important characters throughout burst history since they have been main caste members twice even if they weren’t so powerful back then.

Well Rantaro used to be important lol. If we're going by your logic I would actually say Valt and Shu, but I still get the point your going for. Honestly I'm glad Rantaro is being used more now, he was my favorite character in burst and he was cool in god and then he kinda just disappeared.

(Jul. 28, 2020  1:02 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  12:47 AM)snoc Wrote: The writing isnt stupid dude........Free's battles with the brothers were filler added into the anime to stretch time. And free is shown to e an important character already being a legendary blader, able to do intense and special training, and being able to fight Lane (he still lost, but still).

He isn’t a particularly important character this season. All the legends are very powerful and superior unlike previous recurring characters but they aren’t all important and it’s particularly Rantaro and Valt that are important simply due to their casting roles.

(Jul. 28, 2020  6:14 AM)Vtryuga Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  1:02 AM)Zeutron Wrote: He isn’t a particularly important character this season. All the legends are very powerful and superior unlike previous recurring characters but they aren’t all important and it’s particularly Rantaro and Valt that are important simply due to their casting roles.

Well till now he is not a imporntant character however we cannot be certain of his role in this season ( im not saying that he will be evil but im saying that i think with his relation with lane and his overall hatred of evil bladers and the way he was acting in his battle with hyuga where he lost a bit of control, it is entirely possible that he could have a bigger role than we anticipate.). Only time will tell  now

(Jul. 28, 2020  6:23 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  6:14 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: Well till now he is not a imporntant character however we cannot be certain of his role in this season ( im not saying that he will be evil but im saying that i think with his relation with lane and his overall hatred of evil bladers and the way he was acting in his battle with hyuga where he lost a bit of control, it is entirely possible that he could have a bigger role than we anticipate.). Only time will tell  now

I wouldn’t say he has any kind of special relation with Lane. They just wanted to make Lane seem powerful and menacing by making Free feel shocked by his easy effortless loss to a new rookie like Lane all while having it haunt Free.

(Jul. 28, 2020  9:59 PM)kai edits Wrote: Drum is overrated and give gwynn is better cause he has real character development unlike drum
*cough cough* plot armor
I'm gonna try and make a poll and see how many votes we can get gwynn back in sparking

(Jul. 28, 2020  10:01 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  9:59 PM)kai edits Wrote: Drum is overrated and give gwynn is better cause he has real character development unlike drum
*cough cough* plot armor
I'm gonna try and make a poll and see how many votes we can get gwynn back in sparking

To be honest I think a lot of people actually hate Drum because of how similar he is to Valt.

(Jul. 28, 2020  9:59 PM)kai edits Wrote: Drum is overrated and give gwynn is better cause he has real character development unlike drum
*cough cough* plot armor
I'm gonna try and make a poll and see how many votes we can get gwynn back in sparking

(Jul. 28, 2020  10:07 PM)snoc Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2020  9:59 PM)kai edits Wrote: Drum is overrated and give gwynn is better cause he has real character development unlike drum
*cough cough* plot armor
I'm gonna try and make a poll and see how many votes we can get gwynn back in sparking

Drum is actually underrated since most people just focus on the fact that he yells and is kinda similar to valt. Sadly not a lot of people actually look at his character, and he doesn't have plot armor he just gets gradually stronger. Gwyn is definitely underrated though. He's so well written, I hope we get another character like him.