(Jul. 06, 2009  10:12 AM)FelGrand Wrote: why watch dvd when you can watch online XD

(Jul. 06, 2009  10:12 AM)FelGrand Wrote: why watch dvd when you can watch online XD

(Jul. 06, 2009  10:17 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: Can you stop talking about piracy here (and maybe try reading the rules sometime)?

(Jul. 09, 2009  3:57 PM)To Wrote: People still complaining about the 4Kids dub? That ended 3 years ago. Since then you've had the infinitely superior FUNimation dub that ultimately bombed on TV, and is struggling on DVD.

(Jul. 06, 2009  10:12 AM)FelGrand Wrote: why watch dvd when you can watch online XD

(Aug. 06, 2009  1:07 AM)The_Lumberman Wrote: One Piece has one of the worst dubs I've ever seen. I'm not going to delve too much into the lollipop thing, but I would have LOVED to have seen how they handled Smoker. What does have in his mouth at all times, a Snickers bar?

I only ever watched one episode of the dub. It was hilarious. It was the episode where Luffy kicked Buggy right in the lapland. Except what do they show you? Luffy's foot lightly grazing Buggy's shin. Then he falls down in extreme pain. How does that work? The guy was obviously kicked in his area, they should have just showed it. One Piece evolves around violent themes and they can't even show a guy getting kicked in the groin? I think that scene right there sets the pace of how the rest of the dub is going to go.

That and the opening theme is just too funny. IT'S A PIRATE RAP. I think the best line is CHOPPER IS DOCTORING! Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't doctoring mean to alter something? Not to necessarily practice medicine?

(Aug. 06, 2009  1:07 AM)The_Lumberman Wrote: I think as an anime the show is pretty average and nothing great. The animation is a little below I think the average standard going. I love Oda's artwork and style, but I don't think it transfers over too well to film. I watched a youtube clip of every opening so far and you can actually see the animation cutting more corners as the marathon continues. They really compensate for that though with the voice acting cast. One of the best casts I've ever heard.

I think the manga is just far superior. I actually haven't read it since Franky joined the crew, but I plan to re-read the whole thing again after Oda completes it.

Quote:Also, 4Kids just kind of erased Smoker's cigars and had his mouth open literally all the time. They called him "Chaser."

(Aug. 06, 2009  8:57 AM)Toto Wrote: That's the original dub. Actually, Funimation has been dubbing the series since last summer--I think they're up to Little Garden at the moment. Their version is terrific.

(Aug. 06, 2009  9:42 AM)The_Lumberman Wrote: I watched the anime just before they reached Skypiea. I don't want it to seem that I'm completely knocking the show. I think One Piece is just great. Anyone that knows me knows I've complained about this 100x times or more, but I have seen some of the recent show. It still isn't anything great by technical standards. I mean come on, some of those recent endings were just ridiculously lazy. See what I mean?

It's not just One Piece though, it's the normal anime animation that bothers me. That whole 'draw one frame for the characters bodies and only have the hair/mouths moving' drives me nuts. Or 'draw one scene and have the camera move slowly over it' to make it seem like there's more going on. A lot of Toei's animated works are notorious for that. A majority of animes do that. I remember watching episode of Inuyasha and (I was watching just for the animation mind you) there was less than 5 minutes of full body movement in the whole episode.

I remember really enjoying the Arlong arc for it's top notch voice acting. The actress voicing Bellemere did one of my favorite performances ever. One Piece has always had really fitting music also. But on a purely technical level based on the animation I wouldn't recommend One Piece to anyone. One Piece is definitely a franchise with it's merits, I can't stress that enough. But the animation isn't great. Some of the movies do improve on the series animation (I can imagine it had a better budget) though. Even in the series some of the full body movements seem really jerky at times.

That being said if you're the type of person who regularly enjoys most mainstream animes you either don't notice or don't care about a lot of the animations shortcomings. I can't help myself from noticing them through out though. It becomes too distracting. So that's my hang up I guess.

(Aug. 06, 2009  10:32 PM)The_Lumberman Wrote: I wouldn't really use a movie animation as an example. While it was leaps and bounds better than the norm, movie animation tends to always be better. I'm glad they chose not to rely so heavily on thick black line art. The style change really suits Oda's style better IMO.