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RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - stevebak - Aug. 07, 2011
(Aug. 06, 2011 9:29 PM)NightVirgo8787 Wrote:(Aug. 06, 2011 9:27 PM)Mr. N Wrote: Yeah I will later. It might lower the win rate when Basalt Cancer is battling Stamina types though.Very true. I was thinking more against attack. But Id like to see it against stamina and defense.
I want to see it versus Gravity Perseus stamina Vers Left spin.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 07, 2011
(Aug. 07, 2011 4:25 PM)stevebak Wrote: I want to see it versus Gravity Perseus stamina Vers Left spin.
What combo?
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - ©oke - Aug. 07, 2011
(Aug. 07, 2011 4:06 PM)Mr. N Wrote: MF-H improves the win rate against Attack types but it severely decreases the win rate against MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CSThat was my theory. I agree that Hell Kerbecs wins against a MF-H but could you try Hell Kerbecs BD145(Boost Mode) SD please. Thanks for the testing Mr N.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - stevebak - Aug. 07, 2011
(Aug. 07, 2011 4:27 PM)Mr. N Wrote:(Aug. 07, 2011 4:25 PM)stevebak Wrote: I want to see it versus Gravity Perseus stamina Vers Left spin.
What combo?
Gravity Perseus Stamina vers. AD145EWD/WD(substitute) Left-Spin
MF-L Gravity Perseus GB145WD Left-Spin
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - BeybladeStation - Aug. 07, 2011
AD145/EWD have great balance, but I think Basalt can take the hits in a weak shot in F Mode.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 07, 2011
(Aug. 07, 2011 5:05 PM)NightVirgo8787 Wrote:(Aug. 07, 2011 4:06 PM)Mr. N Wrote: MF-H improves the win rate against Attack types but it severely decreases the win rate against MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CSThat was my theory. I agree that Hell Kerbecs wins against a MF-H but could you try Hell Kerbecs BD145(Boost Mode) SD please. Thanks for the testing Mr N.
I have an extremely worn SD and I have good WDs and good Ds and 1 mint D.
OK, stevebak. I'll try them.
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS Gravity Perseus (Stamina) AD145WD (Left Spin, Defense Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (2KO, 2OS)
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode) VS MF-L Gravity Perseus (Stamina) GB145WD (Left Spin, Defense Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (3KO, 1OS)
I only did 4 rounds for each since I didn't want to watch Gravity Perseus get defeated 20 times. Gravity is a light wheel compared to Basalt and its recoil and the fact that it's on WD...
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - ©oke - Aug. 07, 2011
(Aug. 07, 2011 6:03 PM)Mr. N Wrote:Ok will you test Hell Kerbecs BD145(Boost) D please. And if you have a the time test D:D in S mode please.(Aug. 07, 2011 5:05 PM)NightVirgo8787 Wrote:I have an extremely worn SD and I have good WDs and good Ds and 1 mint D.(Aug. 07, 2011 4:06 PM)Mr. N Wrote: MF-H improves the win rate against Attack types but it severely decreases the win rate against MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CSThat was my theory. I agree that Hell Kerbecs wins against a MF-H but could you try Hell Kerbecs BD145(Boost Mode) SD please. Thanks for the testing Mr N.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - stevebak - Aug. 07, 2011
(Aug. 07, 2011 6:03 PM)Mr. N Wrote:(Aug. 07, 2011 5:05 PM)NightVirgo8787 Wrote:(Aug. 07, 2011 4:06 PM)Mr. N Wrote: MF-H improves the win rate against Attack types but it severely decreases the win rate against MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CSThat was my theory. I agree that Hell Kerbecs wins against a MF-H but could you try Hell Kerbecs BD145(Boost Mode) SD please. Thanks for the testing Mr N.
I have an extremely worn SD and I have good WDs and good Ds and 1 mint D.
OK, stevebak. I'll try them.
Basalt Cancer D(WB Mode) VS Gravity Perseus (Stamina) AD145WD (Left Spin, Defense Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (2KO, 2OS)
Basalt Cancer D
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 100% (3KO, 1OS)
I only did 4 rounds for each since I didn't want to watch Gravity Perseus get defeated 20 times. Gravity is a light wheel compared to Basalt and its recoil and the fact that it's on WD...
wow that was pretty one sided lol. Yeah your right about that. I get that sometime to. Specialy on those stamina tests where you see that one pretty mutch dominates the tests.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 08, 2011
Basalt Cancer D:D (S Mode) VS Hell Kerbecs BD145D (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 80% (7KO, 1OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 20% (1KO, 1OS)
It's pretty much the same thing as WD. Only easier to KO.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 08, 2011
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode, Stall) VS Hell Kerbecs BD145RF (Boost Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate - 80% (8OS)
Hell Kerbecs Win Rate - 20% (2KO)
Just some more tests.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Bleik - Aug. 08, 2011
This would get KO'ed almost every time by MF-F Gravity Perseus R145RF. I used it today at a meet-up
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 08, 2011
Unfortunately, I don't have an R145 to test it. Against left-spin, weak-launching on WB mode should get a decent win rate. Against right-spin, stalling on F mode should also get a decent win rate.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 08, 2011
I have D125 tests.
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode, Stall) VS MF Gravity Perseus (ATK) D125RF (Right Spin, Counter Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate – 80% (4KO, 4OS)
Gravity Perseus Win Rate – 20% (2KO)
Basalt Cancer D:D (WB Mode, Weak Launch) VS MF Gravity Perseus D125RF (Left Spin, Counter Mode)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate – 90% (9OS)
Gravity Perseus Win Rate- 10% (1KO)
I don't know if there is a big difference between D125 and R145 but Basalt Cancer does well against the D125 variant.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Shabalabadoo - Aug. 08, 2011
How was gravity Perseus launched in those first d125 tests on the post above me?
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 08, 2011
It was banked.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Shabalabadoo - Aug. 08, 2011
If you don't mind, could you do the exact same test, but 'stall' with gravity as well
RF can catch up to F when they're both on the ridge.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 08, 2011
I'll do it later. Deikailo did some tests with Beat and wrote some stuff about launching techniques and modes and stuff that I can't explain very well on the first page. If you didn't already, you should read that.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Mr. N - Aug. 09, 2011
Basalt Cancer D:D (F Mode, Stall) VS MF Gravity Perseus (ATK) D125RF (Right Spin, Counter Mode, Stall)
Standard Procedures
Basalt Cancer Win Rate – 40% (4OS)
Gravity Perseus Win Rate – 60% (6KO)
Right-spin Attack is Basalt Cancer D:D's weakness.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Dan - Aug. 10, 2011
Anyone else think this could be a Compact custom almost? I don't know the width of D:D but still. :V
lol
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Shabalabadoo - Aug. 10, 2011
But what would differentiate this being a compact from 145 F/S/WB?
I just looked at the beywiki definition for compact; spin velocity and balance.
Staircase of death.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Dan - Aug. 10, 2011
I say this because of D:D's width and Basalt's sort of passive, very circular shape. Staircase of death doesn't affect performance so drastically, and if it does, it actually helps with defense.
145F/WB/S doesn't have as much width at all. With D:D you can use different launches for different bottoms which are interchangeable. Apparently a compact is capable of that (different launches for different qualities.)
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Janstarblast - Aug. 10, 2011
(Aug. 10, 2011 5:12 PM)Dan Wrote: I say this because of D
It does? I thought it was just a disadvantage for Defense.
About this combo(I saw this thread 1st time)-
Well, I see another Balance combo here. I think its the era of Balance types now..
Others are talking about a compact combo, I agree with them, but not completely, as I don't know much about D: D and the last thing I read about it was instability, i.e. bad balance. I may be wrong though, as a compact combo does have good balance.
It seems to be quite good, and looking at the results, it seems to be promising.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Serotonin - Aug. 10, 2011
Well, although Basalt is actually quite small - a quality of many Compacts - its odd weight distribution does reduce its spin velocity significantly. I don't really think this is a Compact at all, but it's a really interesting Balance type.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Dan - Aug. 10, 2011
Oh come on, its pretty close! It displays many of those qualities other than distribution haha.
I suppose the key player in a Compact is weight-distribution and being well balanced. How about Earth D:D? haha.
RE: Basalt Cancer D:D - Shabalabadoo - Aug. 10, 2011
Hmm, it definitely seems to fit when I look at the article, but I don't really think labeling it compact is fitting.
Basalt isn't a small part in width, so it seems to deter me away from the 'compact'.
D:D's width? Wouldn't something like AD145 and MF-H be better for making the weight towards the middle; increasing spin velocity?
To me it just seems like a heavy metal wheel combined with a part that has several different modes, being a balance-esque type...but it doesn't fit the compact necessarily. More towards just a defense type with some slight attack and slight stamina properties
But then there's the mode change with D:D, so that is advantageous over F/S/WB.
Could also be just me, haha.
Woah, I got super n00bed, it took me so long to write that the conversation is almost over.