(Nov. 11, 2008  11:44 PM)Roan Wrote: I think in the end it was worth it tho.

Look at the marketshare they snagged from Sony. That wouldn't have happened if they weren't first out of the gate.

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:02 AM)To Wrote:

(Nov. 11, 2008  11:44 PM)Roan Wrote: I think in the end it was worth it tho.

Look at the marketshare they snagged from Sony. That wouldn't have happened if they weren't first out of the gate.

I still think their new pricing scheme (while very tempting) is insane if they like to make money.

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:20 AM)Roan Wrote:

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:02 AM)To Wrote:

(Nov. 11, 2008  11:44 PM)Roan Wrote: I think in the end it was worth it tho.

Look at the marketshare they snagged from Sony. That wouldn't have happened if they weren't first out of the gate.

I still think their new pricing scheme (while very tempting) is insane if they like to make money.

They were profitable last quarter and that was WITH the price drop, so we'll see what happens.

Going into the holidays I think A LOT of $199 Arcades are going to be sold. There's also the $299 Pro bundle with 2 free games (Kung Fu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones) aimed at the younger audience.

Meanwhile Sony's cheapest model is still $399. There's not going to be much competition between Sony and anyone this holiday, the real battle is going to be between the $199 Arcade and the $249 Wii.

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:42 AM)To Wrote:

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:20 AM)Roan Wrote:

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:02 AM)To Wrote:

(Nov. 11, 2008  11:44 PM)Roan Wrote: I think in the end it was worth it tho.

Look at the marketshare they snagged from Sony. That wouldn't have happened if they weren't first out of the gate.

I still think their new pricing scheme (while very tempting) is insane if they like to make money.

They were profitable last quarter and that was WITH the price drop, so we'll see what happens.

Going into the holidays I think A LOT of $199 Arcades are going to be sold. There's also the $299 Pro bundle with 2 free games (Kung Fu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones) aimed at the younger audience.

Meanwhile Sony's cheapest model is still $399. There's not going to be much competition between Sony and anyone this holiday, the real battle is going to be between the $199 Arcade and the $249 Wii.

Well Sony's goal this year was to make the PS3 cheaper to manufacture so that they can do crazy Microsoft prices.

(Nov. 12, 2008  5:06 AM)Roan Wrote:

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:42 AM)To Wrote:

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:20 AM)Roan Wrote:

(Nov. 12, 2008  12:02 AM)To Wrote:

(Nov. 11, 2008  11:44 PM)Roan Wrote: I think in the end it was worth it tho.

Look at the marketshare they snagged from Sony. That wouldn't have happened if they weren't first out of the gate.

I still think their new pricing scheme (while very tempting) is insane if they like to make money.

They were profitable last quarter and that was WITH the price drop, so we'll see what happens.

Going into the holidays I think A LOT of $199 Arcades are going to be sold. There's also the $299 Pro bundle with 2 free games (Kung Fu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones) aimed at the younger audience.

Meanwhile Sony's cheapest model is still $399. There's not going to be much competition between Sony and anyone this holiday, the real battle is going to be between the $199 Arcade and the $249 Wii.

Well Sony's goal this year was to make the PS3 cheaper to manufacture so that they can do crazy Microsoft prices.

Well that's all fine and dandy, but I think it was a bad move. Sony needs to slay this holiday season to get a real foothold in the market and in this carp global economy they are not going to do that at $399, especially given that their competition's prices are so aggressive. They aren't doing so hot right now, and while LBP, Resistance 2 and Motorstorm 2 are surely great games for the system, they aren't getting the marketing push they need to really sell systems. Ok, well LBP is getting a pretty big campaign, but the other two aren't.

Microsoft is obviously spending big bucks to push their big games, namely Gears of War 2, but also have the marketing team on overdrive promoting the New Xbox Experience. They're presenting this like a console re-launch, and if you think about it, it really is. I don't want to sound like a fanboy, or as Brandonk loves to label me, an "Xbot", but think about it. For $199 this holiday, consumers can get an AMAZING package in the Xbox 360. With all of the new functionality the NXE adds (Netflix streaming, Avatars -- which I am skeptical of, but they are still worth mentioning, etc.) and all of the biggest games from both third and first parties, I think the Xbox 360, particularly the Arcade, is going to pull in some amazing figures in the next month.

Now don't get me wrong, I want the PS3 to succeed. I own one of the damn things and I never use it unless I'm watching a blu-ray -- that's the system's biggest problem. Its not that it doesn't have any games worth playing, because it certainly does, and maybe I'm wrong here, but I feel like the system is being marketed more as a movie player than a gaming device, and that is exactly what it has become for me. I don't own a single game for mine. All I have are blu-rays. Seven of them, to be exact. While the games the system has are all high quality, there's not a single console exclusive game outside of the recently released LittleBigPlanet that really defines the system as a must-have gaming device.

Just my two cents. I'll be eagerly awaiting Brandonk's reply through Kenny.

(Nov. 12, 2008  5:37 AM)Artie Wrote: This game carp rules \m/

(Nov. 12, 2008  11:37 PM)To Wrote: I've seen more Motorstorm: PR commercials then LBP, which makes me sad, considering MR isn't the greatest of racers, even off-road wise.