(Mar. 24, 2012  9:17 PM)th!nk Wrote: It's just single image posts that are outlawed as they aren't considered enough content (apparently the committee don't buy into the picture= 1000 words idea).

Spoiler or not, gotta have "content".

By the way, are we going to announce it or just start leaving notices/warnings until people figure it out themselves?
Given the lack of announcements, I sincerely hope no actual warnings have been given out for this heinous crime, and won't be until it is announced as the new nickname/double post/whatever.

(Mar. 25, 2012  3:32 AM)Blood Wrote: I want to ask this:
if a tournament was held by a fellow member, already has a full list of attendees, saw another person who wants to join but isn't included in the list, accept him/her?

(Mar. 25, 2012  4:28 AM)aj740 Wrote: Ummm, would it be possible to hold a team tournament and if so in new york?

(Mar. 25, 2012  1:27 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: This isn't anything new, and no announcements are needed. Single picture posts have never been appropriate as they didn't meet the intent of the rule as it was written before.

The clarifying statement was added so that we can all stop trying to answer the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin...

(Mar. 25, 2012  2:25 PM)th!nk Wrote: Don't threaten me. You've made a poor choice, and apparently won't listen to reason. What else am I to do?

(Mar. 25, 2012  2:36 PM)Hazel Wrote: Actually, let me first state this: the image macro I called you out on posting does not, in fact, represent a thousand words. At most, it represents you just typing "*facepalm*" or whatever emoticon bracket you personally choose. Most image macros contain absolutely nothing but some idiotic drawing and an internet meme, and most certainly the ones that are most frequently appearing. Those do not depict "a thousand words", "a hundred words", or even "five words", in many cases. They're colorful eye candy with, in 99% of cases, very dumb implied meanings.

Quote:You're a big boy. Talk with your words.

Quote:Second off, no warnings have yet been issued, and for the time being, I'm just sticking mod notice reminders on people when they do it.

Quote:Stop over-dramaticizing every single thing to the point of it being a national crisis, please. This passive-aggressive nonsense you're dragging around at every opportunity, combined with your complete and total willingness to throw an absolute tantrum every time we enforce any rule or posting standard of any kind, is becoming a rather severe annoyance, and a public disturbance. I genuinely believe that, at this point, and probably ever since it became a problem really, you are not doing this "in the name of the good of the forum", but rather, "in the name of getting attention and making a big ruckus by raging against the machines".

Quote:The fuss you have made on every single subject recently has been overexaggerated to a point I cannot even describe to you, especially given that you seem to perceive us as handing out a thousand warnings a day for things that you never knew about. We do not often hand out warnings anymore, but let me just address a few things that you've complained about quite recently:

No Nicknames: This has been a well-understood thing for a long time. Why you're only now throwing a fit over it, I can only assume is to garner attention because your friend got warned for it.

Quote:No Double-Posting: This has always been not only implied, but directly stated on a regular basis by The Committee. I saw it in posts from more than a year ago before I joined. We do not even warn on the first, and in many cases second, offenses.

Quote:Image Macros: These have been getting erased or moderated out for a very long time - once again, something I noticed before I even registered. It had been a non-issue for quite a while, but recently, over the last two or three months I'd say, a little trend of bad posting and memes and image macros has popped up, and it is best nipped in the bud before the standard of posting drops from intelligent responses to whatever you'll find on any given image board. The old wording of the rules very clearly implied content should be valid, and image macros are not, in 99% of cases, valid content

Quote:I do not - and I will go as far as to say we do not - care what other forums' rules are. We have some more adjustments coming, to include the things you have mentioned lately.

Quote:We value you as an individual and as a poster quite highly, but your methods of approach are juvenile at best, and you're belittling yourself every time you make a post containing passive aggressive, yet pointedly snide, remark at nothing more than the tiniest breeze of provocation.

(Mar. 25, 2012  5:02 PM)Hazel Wrote: There is no depth in ponies or facepalming images or any of those other things - do not superimpose a facade of intelligence on images that really do only represent one or two words. I could write a book about a leaf, and that would not change what anyone who looks at the leaf sees. You know what I see when I see the facepalm image? A guy - whose identity and context and even surroundings are completely irrelevant to everything in the universe as far as your post is concerned - with his palm on his face.

Quote:If I have made the mistake of posting only for the sake of a snide remark, then I will accept that. However, in any case wherein I make a silly or sarcastic comment in a mod notice(which is, for the most part, a tendency I stopped doing quite a while ago, though I do still err in some scenarios), it's not quite same thing as actually making a post with nothing but that as my message.

(Mar. 25, 2012  2:36 PM)Hazel Wrote: You're a big boy. Talk with your words.

Quote:If I were really rallying to stop people from being sarcastic and snarky, a lot of warning levels would be a lot higher - you may recall that I have actually informed you on more than one occasion that I would rather have you respond that way to someone to get a point across than to go in and moderate or erase their messages. However, that does not immediately mean your response should be short and devalued by only being an image. My intention is to maintain the standard of posting whereupon posts are full of words, not pictures taken from whatever imagefarm people turn to for these things.

Quote:Calling people out has its place as a disciplinary measure, and it is still pretty far below a warning. Just as surely as I tell someone "Do not double-post", I will tell anyone else "Do not post image macros", and I will do it in any thread, anywhere, at any time I see it necessary, and if you object, that is perfectly fine. As someone being reprimanded, you are not expected to be enthusiastic about it.

Quote:When you insist upon arguing with it publically, that is when it becomes the debacle that you object to. Just because my message was slightly longer than "Stop posting image macros" does not mean it was anything more.If you don't want to be told not to do something you should not be doing, I'm sorry, I cannot assist you with that request. You were the individual most guilty of it within that timeframe, and that is the only criteria upon which you were selected.

Quote:Moderator Notices are intended to have a sting to them. They are meant to be a disciplinary action that is far below an actual warning - an action that is already not very severe, as you have indicated and advocated numerous times. However, they are still a pretty gentle reminder, and in absolutely every single case(as far as we are mandated - I especially follow this guideline), if a Moderator Notice accompanies a warning, it will say "User was warned for this post".

Quote:We take a fairly large number of things into consideration when assigning warnings in many cases, most especially ones regarding veteran members. Users who break behavioral mandates, despite being thoroughly educated and familiar with them, will usually even be given a gentle nudge(in the form of a Moderator Notice) before any action is taken, but not in all cases - and certainly you cannot really expect us to ditch objectivity in favor of individual reputation to an absolution. We will go to some length, but not a barefoot walk in a hundred mile desert.

Quote:I don't hand out warnings for observation-based rules until I have given at least one verbal reprimand first, and this is generally upheld by everyone else.

Quote:I have a lot of trouble with the idea of associating Moderator Notices with being as severe as a warning, and it is a point upon which we will never agree, if you really think that we should not use them as a reminder for people not to do things, and my use of them will not be modified in the slightest by your position. Mod Notices are an efficient, quick way to remind an individual, and those reading that person's post, that they have done something wrong, without actually threatening their place on the forum.

Quote:Regardless, being that the only issue up for discussion at the moment is the announcement, that is where this should go from this point. My stance on image macros is quite clear, as is my stance on everything else I have outlined, and I will not be changing those stances.

As for my position on the announcement, I do believe we should bring to light any changes we have made/will make publically, but I do not feel it will make near as much an impact as seems to be implied.

(Mar. 25, 2012  5:12 PM)Kai-V Wrote: This is not a new interpretation at all though. As I have written, past Committee Members also understood the same thing from the rule, and that rule has been there since the beginning almost.