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RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Kei - Jul. 12, 2017
(Jul. 12, 2017 7:03 PM)UGottaCetus Wrote: A2 is starting to look like a pretty solid part that was vastly overlooked on release. Nice to see Yell too, Ive been messing around with it and its very interesting.
It became a bit less useful upon the release of Guardian Kerbeus however, which beats it and seemingly everything else in terms of Stamina.
I wouldn't say A2 was "overlooked" because it truly wasn't useful until D and D2 were banned.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - UGottaCetus - Jul. 13, 2017
You do have a point but D2 and D were like the only consistently viable parts at all anyway. At least until L2.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Kei - Jul. 17, 2017
HIGH PARK THROWDOWN 9 - 07/16/2017
Toronto, Ontario, Canada - Metal Fight Format
1st: @[1234beyblade]
Genbull Dragooon 90EWD
MF-F Revizer Killerken SA165 (Attack Mode) EWD
Killerken Dragoon SA165 (Attack Mode) EWD
Killerken Dragooon BD145RDF
MSF-L Genbull Genbull 90EWD (Deck Format Finals Only)
2nd: @[OldSchool™]
MSF-L Wyvang Wyvang BD145RSF
MF-H Duo Aquario 230MB
MSF-L Genbull Dragooon F230CF
MSF-L Wyvang Dragooon BD145RDF (Deck Format Finals Only)
MSF-F Genbull Girago E230MB (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd: Kei
MSF-L Genbull Dragooon 100EWD
MSF-L Wyvang Dragooon BD145RDF
MF-L Gravity Perseus BD145RDF (Deck Format Finals Only)
MF-H Duo Cygnus W105EWD (Deck Format Finals Only)
MSF-F Genbull Girago E230MB (Deck Format Finals Only)
Was really fun to come back to Metal Fight Format after a year today! Especially being able to play Deck Format for the first time with it.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Angry Face - Jul. 17, 2017
Bey-ja Vu (BST) - 07/15/2017
Roanoke, Virginia, USA - Burst Format
1st: Lord Max
Tornado Wyvern 4 Glaive Atomic
Alter Chronos 6 Meteor Orbit (deck finals only)
Lost Longinus 8 Cross assault (deck finals only)
2nd: Cuco0413
Drain Fafnir Quarter Atomic
Acid Anubis Magnum Nothing (deck finals only)
Blaze Ragnaruk Yell Spiral (deck finals only)
3rd: Cele1223
Tornado Wyvern 4 Meteor Orbit
Alter Chronos 6 Glaive Press (deck finals only)
Xcalibur Nine Trans (deck finals only)
Bey-ja Vu (PLA) - 07/15/2017
Roanoke, Virginia, USA - Plastic Format
1st: Angry Face
AR: Tiger Defenser
WD: Wide Survivor
SG: Neo Left + Double Bearing Core
SP: Defense Ring
BB: Customize Grip Base
2nd: PirateIan
AR: Wing Cross
WD: 10 Balance
BB: Semi-Flat Base
3rd: Ace97
AR: Tiger Defenser
WD: 8 Heavy
BB: Metal Ball Base (4 metal balls)
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Mstubbs88 - Jul. 17, 2017
(Jul. 17, 2017 5:35 PM)Angry Face Wrote: Bey-ja Vu (BST) - 07/15/2017
Roanoke, Virginia, USA - Burst Format
Im so confused as to what went on with the burst event. Lol
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Suzaku-X - Jul. 17, 2017
(Jul. 17, 2017 5:35 PM)Angry Face Wrote: Bey-ja Vu (BST) - 07/15/2017
Roanoke, Virginia, USA - Burst Format
Drain Fafnir on Quarter? And A2 on Nothing? How did those work out lol?
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Kei - Jul. 17, 2017
@[Angry Face] Yeah, we need some context for that Burst Format list. I have questions about every single combo! Haha.
Also, guys ... no need to quote the entire list in your post. I'll edit it out of them.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Jimmyjazz39 - Jul. 18, 2017
Deathscythers' Destroyed-7/16/17
1st: Wombat;
Drain Fafnir Polish Atomic
Zillion Zeus 4 Zephyr
Blaze Ragnaruk Yell Atomic
Neptune Yell Revolve
Odin Yell Revolve
Lost Longinus 2 Glaive Hold (deck rotation only)
2nd: Ardmore Bladers;
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Gravity Revolve (Deck rotation only)
#bandF2017
3rd: Chicken Storm;
Drain Fafnir Heavy Revolve
Neptune Gravity Orbit (Deck rotation only)
Lost Longinus Knuckle Hold (Deck rotation only)
4: Jimmyjazz39;
Wyvern Spread Defense
Valkyrie Heavy Accel
Unicorn Spread Trans
Kerbeus (TT) Spread Revolve (deck rotation only)
Wyvern Heavy Accel (deck rotation only)
Minoboros Knuckle Xtreme (deck rotation only)
Spriggan Oval Quake
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme (deck rotation only)
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Rebel Blader - Jul. 18, 2017
suprised to see K(tt) and S(tt) there.i always thought unicorn (tt) had potential as a staller.Z2 seems to have more potential than i thought.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Jimmyjazz39 - Jul. 18, 2017
(Jul. 18, 2017 4:23 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: suprised to see K(tt) and S(tt) there.i always thought unicorn (tt) had potential as a staller.Z2 seems to have more potential than i thought.
Z2 only won 1 battle against a B2VJ. Unicorn almost lost. I lost both of my battles in deck rotation. Spriggan was able to KO dF once and nearly beat a K2GP in the prelims. i regret using kerbeus instead of wyvern in that deck
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Rebel Blader - Jul. 18, 2017
(Jul. 18, 2017 4:41 PM)Jimmyjazz39 Wrote:(Jul. 18, 2017 4:23 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: suprised to see K(tt) and S(tt) there.i always thought unicorn (tt) had potential as a staller.Z2 seems to have more potential than i thought.
Z2 only won 1 battle against a B2VJ. Unicorn almost lost. I lost both of my battles in deck rotation. Spriggan was able to KO dF once and nearly beat a K2GP in the prelims. i regret using kerbeus instead of wyvern in that deck
what are ur thoughts on minoborus?where does M stands in todays meta game. also why did u used a hop attacker i heard they are very risky.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Jimmyjazz39 - Jul. 18, 2017
(Jul. 18, 2017 4:47 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:minoboros is decent and it's not as good as other options. i never really got an ideal matchup with it however. as far as the hop attacker, i was just risky and i like attack types. hop attack is interesting and spriggan is pretty good at KOing. i wanted to try it out. i don't have any god layers and hardly any dual layers so i'm very limited in competitive options. i normally put collection ahead of competition so when i compete i work with what i have.(Jul. 18, 2017 4:41 PM)Jimmyjazz39 Wrote: Z2 only won 1 battle against a B2VJ. Unicorn almost lost. I lost both of my battles in deck rotation. Spriggan was able to KO dF once and nearly beat a K2GP in the prelims. i regret using kerbeus instead of wyvern in that deck
what are ur thoughts on minoborus?where does M stands in todays meta game. also why did u used a hop attacker i heard they are very risky.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Wombat - Jul. 19, 2017
(Jul. 18, 2017 4:41 PM)Jimmyjazz39 Wrote:Z2 is one of the Layers that works really well for me, it's got some pretty great Burst Attack and I was getting it to burst things like Odin, (my old) Neptune, and Unicrest rather consistently. I've found it to do well on semi-mobile Drivers like Atomic, and Mixed Attack Drivers like Zephyr, though I haven't tested it too extensively on something more stationary like Revolve or Yielding because I'm worried the higher RPM might break it. I used it against Kingman47, who I had seen using Doomscizor D2 Vertical Massive in a previous battle and figured it was a safe option given the Hasbro D2's poor Burst Defense. He used B2VJ instead, but I still ended up winning by outspin and burst.(Jul. 18, 2017 4:23 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: suprised to see K(tt) and S(tt) there.i always thought unicorn (tt) had potential as a staller.Z2 seems to have more potential than i thought.
Z2 only won 1 battle against a B2VJ. Unicorn almost lost. I lost both of my battles in deck rotation. Spriggan was able to KO dF once and nearly beat a K2GP in the prelims. i regret using kerbeus instead of wyvern in that deck
My other combos are pretty self-explanatory, though interestingly enough I did underestimate how bad Yell really was for same spin Stamina - Jimmy was able to outspin my NYR with KSR in the finals. I don't know if he used Minoboros against anyone but me, but it lost pretty badly to me L2 combo.
I think Ardmore Bladers also used Xeno Xcalibur Gravity Revolve at some point during the Round Robin stage, but I could be remembring wrong and it might have been Common Pickle who used it.
EDIT: By the way, I also think I've got the Winning Combos archive up to date for Burst and the MFB Formats - could someone check for me and make sure I'm not missing any events?
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Kei - Jul. 19, 2017
(Jul. 19, 2017 4:31 AM)Wombat Wrote: EDIT: By the way, I also think I've got the Winning Combos archive up to date for Burst and the MFB Formats - could someone check for me and make sure I'm not missing any events?
Whoa, awesome. Thank you so much! I'll check this out later. It might be hard to verify if any events were missed or not at the moment since we don't have the event list archive itself up to date just yet.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - ~Mana~ - Jul. 22, 2017
The Sesh
London, UK - 22/07/2017
1st - @[Better LT]
Maximum Garuda 7Flow Atomic
Blaze Ragnaruk _____ Atomic
Drain Fafnir Polish Atomic
Xeno Xcalibur Oval Quake (mandatory troll victory of the day)
2nd - ~Mana~
Lost Longinus Spread Xtreme
Acid Anubis 8Glaive Revolve
Drain Fafnir Polish Atomic
God Valkyrie 8 Reboot
3rd - @[Basedsamuraij]
Maximum Garuda 7Flow Atomic
Drain Fafnir Polish Atomic
Drain Fafnir Yell Revolve
Legend Spriggan 2Glaive Atomic
Alter Chronos 4Flow Atomic
Acid Anubis 7Flow Defense
Lost Longinus 4Glaive Orbit
Maximum Garuda. What more can I really say? mG was the MVP for this event; it's the hero we needed to knock Drain Fafnir down a peg and balance things out...or at least, that's what you'd think, but mG actually becomes an even worse wall itself. In this event, mG practically won all battles it was used in, meaning that those that didn't have it were at a significant disadvantage.
Unfortunately, I did not have the pleasure of having or using mG, but I did get lucky using L2.S.X against Jay's mG.7F.At, managing to win straight battles with a Bursts and knockouts. When Better LT used the same combo in the finals, I couldn't replicate this (despite the consistency during Jay's match), so I'm a little torn on what was different there. However, in the future, I'd probably still try to counter mG with L2_X; it simply felt good to use and I felt like I had more of a chance against mG when using it.
Despite it's name, Legend Spriggan seemed to be a dud throughout the event, losing to simple combinations that it really had no business losing to, such as Kerbeus Wing Massive. I'm still optimistic that lS has a place somewhere in the competitive scene - as I'm sure @[Basedsamuraij] will persevere to prove in future events - but it didn't make a good initial impression with me during this event. Hopefully when I get my own soon, I can be proven wrong by testing...
Lots of abuse of Atomic again. The popular opinion between everyone seems to be that Atomic works for everything. Wanting to attack? Use Atomic. Looking to defend? Atomic's your friend. Stamina battle? Atomic has you covered. As much as I hate throwing parts under the banhammer, I think Atomic's all-round usage and general potency is becoming more of an issue than certain Layers are and should probably be kept under a watchful eye over the next few months.
Myself and a few others are also becoming increasingly interested in how our currently banned parts - Deathscyther and Dark Deathscyther - would cope in this new metagame. It'd be interesting to see how they hold up against mG, lS, kD and dF and see if we can get them off that dreaded list.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - V2KX - Jul. 22, 2017
OMG ATOMIC IS OP (Potential ban list??????? like D2 and Deathscyther?????)
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Rebel Blader - Jul. 23, 2017
has anyone tried lS on a aggressive tip like extreme or hunter?
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Mage - Jul. 23, 2017
(Jul. 23, 2017 9:51 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: has anyone tried lS on a aggressive tip like extreme or hunter?
Yeah, in left spin mode it can counter dF pretty hard but it can't do much against right spin
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Rebel Blader - Jul. 23, 2017
(Jul. 23, 2017 10:47 AM)Mage Wrote:(Jul. 23, 2017 9:51 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: has anyone tried lS on a aggressive tip like extreme or hunter?
Yeah, in left spin mode it can counter dF pretty hard but it can't do much against right spin
i still think its too early to draw conclusions it needs proper testing in both spin directions.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Ultra - Jul. 23, 2017
(Jul. 23, 2017 9:51 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: has anyone tried lS on a aggressive tip like extreme or hunter?
I tried LS _ Hunter (can't remember what disk) against MG. Did nothing. However MG is very strong against attack (and everything really) so that might not mean much.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - chips556 - Jul. 23, 2017
as I'd expected, mG is like burst's basalt, a completely circular layer on the outer & beats almost everything, has anyone tried d2 against mG yet ?
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Rebel Blader - Jul. 23, 2017
who knew burst ver of typio(mG) would be this OP.i think a layer with good slopes can be good against it
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Mage - Jul. 23, 2017
(Jul. 23, 2017 10:56 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote:(Jul. 23, 2017 10:47 AM)Mage Wrote: Yeah, in left spin mode it can counter dF pretty hard but it can't do much against right spin
i still think its too early to draw conclusions it needs proper testing in both spin directions.
Formal testing isn't always necessary, from 50+ free play battles I think a pattern would be decently visible. Since it's illegal to change spin direction with lS I think most would pick left spin to counter dF, right spin(from experience) does not work against dF.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Rebel Blader - Jul. 23, 2017
(Jul. 23, 2017 11:55 AM)Mage Wrote:(Jul. 23, 2017 10:56 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: i still think its too early to draw conclusions it needs proper testing in both spin directions.
Formal testing isn't always necessary, from 50+ free play battles I think a patten would be decently visible. Since it's illegal to change spin direction with lS I think most would pick left spin to counter dF, right spin(from experience) does not work against dF.
formal testing gives accurate results and will also be helpful for making drafts.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Mage - Jul. 23, 2017
(Jul. 23, 2017 12:06 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:(Jul. 23, 2017 11:55 AM)Mage Wrote: Formal testing isn't always necessary, from 50+ free play battles I think a patten would be decently visible. Since it's illegal to change spin direction with lS I think most would pick left spin to counter dF, right spin(from experience) does not work against dF.
formal testing gives accurate results and will also be helpful for making drafts.
While that may be true your original question of if lS is good on Hunter or Xtreme can be answered without the need for formal testing, simply experience would do.