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RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 8:55 PM)marutti Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 8:27 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: There is no “going to jail” for sharing pics after official release date. Do you think everyone who retweets (and therefore is re-sharing a Corocoro tweet with pics) is breaking the law? That’s ridiculous. Common sense will let you that’s mot the cause or 5 minutes on Google.Have you ever study law?
marutti please do not spread misinformation. Thank you.
I mean it's OK to share pic which TT released officially.
But magazine there is copyright and it shouldn't spread.
Do you have common sense? SupaDav03
Even so your claim about going to jail is wrong.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - marutti - Oct. 05, 2020
Isn't there decent people here?
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 9:05 PM)marutti Wrote: Isn't there decent people here?
I know I’m not one of those decent people
RE: B-174 All in One Set - CitrusNinja3 - Oct. 05, 2020
Whatever the legal repercussions are for posting leaked images, the simple solution is to not post them here or on the WBO Discord. If someone does post them, chances are that there will be a Moderator online to take it down before it can become a problem. Just be careful what you guys post and everything will be fine.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - CheetoBlader - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 8:55 PM)marutti Wrote:If SD03 (I’m just shortening it, but let me know if you’d rather not be called that) didn’t have common sense, then how did they become a staff member? And, you’re not going to prison, only paying a fine, at most. SD03 is right, and I suggest you stop being rude, because you were barely let back into the WBO.(Oct. 05, 2020 8:27 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: There is no “going to jail” for sharing pics after official release date. Do you think everyone who retweets (and therefore is re-sharing a Corocoro tweet with pics) is breaking the law? That’s ridiculous. Common sense will let you that’s mot the cause or 5 minutes on Google.Have you ever study law?
marutti please do not spread misinformation. Thank you.
I mean it's OK to share pic which TT released officially.
But magazine there is copyright and it shouldn't spread.
Do you have common sense? SupaDav03
RE: B-174 All in One Set - marutti - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 9:46 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:In Japanese law 5 year in prison or pay 5 milion yen(Oct. 05, 2020 8:55 PM)marutti Wrote: Have you ever study law?If SD03 (I’m just shortening it, but let me know if you’d rather not be called that) didn’t have common sense, then how did they become a staff member? And, you’re not going to prison, only paying a fine, at most. SD03 is right, and I suggest you stop being rude, because you were barely let back into the WBO.
I mean it's OK to share pic which TT released officially.
But magazine there is copyright and it shouldn't spread.
Do you have common sense? SupaDav03
RE: B-174 All in One Set - CheetoBlader - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:10 PM)marutti Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 9:46 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: If SD03 (I’m just shortening it, but let me know if you’d rather not be called that) didn’t have common sense, then how did they become a staff member? And, you’re not going to prison, only paying a fine, at most. SD03 is right, and I suggest you stop being rude, because you were barely let back into the WBO.In Japanese law 5 year in prison or pay 5 milion yen
Keep in mind that a lot of the people here aren’t in Japan, so the law may be different. Thanks for sharing where your logic and thoughts were coming from though, it makes it much more understandable.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:10 PM)marutti Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 9:46 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: If SD03 (I’m just shortening it, but let me know if you’d rather not be called that) didn’t have common sense, then how did they become a staff member? And, you’re not going to prison, only paying a fine, at most. SD03 is right, and I suggest you stop being rude, because you were barely let back into the WBO.In Japanese law 5 year in prison or pay 5 milion yen
Well most of us don’t live in Japan. You should’ve specified that you were talking about Japan.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - marutti - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 10:10 PM)marutti Wrote: In Japanese law 5 year in prison or pay 5 milion yen
Well most of us don’t live in Japan. You should’ve specified that you were talking about Japan.
I can talk to you USA case but more terrible.
In Japan fine will be max 5 milion yen ( it means 50 thousand dallers) but, in USA over 10 milion dallers
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:22 PM)marutti Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 10:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Well most of us don’t live in Japan. You should’ve specified that you were talking about Japan.
I can talk to you USA case but more terrible.
In Japan fine will be max 5 milion yen ( it means 50 thousand dallers) but, in USA over 10 milion dallers
Dang, that’s a lot of money. Although last time I checked it was $150,000 max (but then again that was a google search).
RE: B-174 All in One Set - CheetoBlader - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:22 PM)marutti Wrote:That is no-where close to true. You might find this article helpful: https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html(Oct. 05, 2020 10:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Well most of us don’t live in Japan. You should’ve specified that you were talking about Japan.
I can talk to you USA case but more terrible.
In Japan fine will be max 5 milion yen ( it means 50 thousand dallers) but, in USA over 10 milion dallers
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:30 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 10:22 PM)marutti Wrote: I can talk to you USA case but more terrible.That is no-where close to true. You might find this article helpful: https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html
In Japan fine will be max 5 milion yen ( it means 50 thousand dallers) but, in USA over 10 milion dallers
Could you tell us where it is. There’s a lot to read on there.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - andowantsfood - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:33 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 10:30 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: That is no-where close to true. You might find this article helpful: https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html
Could you tell us where it is. There’s a lot to read on there.
Look at the right side. its 502-505
RE: B-174 All in One Set - CheetoBlader - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:33 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:504 and 506 are most relevant.(Oct. 05, 2020 10:30 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: That is no-where close to true. You might find this article helpful: https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html
Could you tell us where it is. There’s a lot to read on there.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:35 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 10:33 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Could you tell us where it is. There’s a lot to read on there.504 and 506 are most relevant.
Thanks. I really don’t want to go through this entire block of text
RE: B-174 All in One Set - marutti - Oct. 05, 2020
BTW, Who pay that much fine for 6$ magazine?
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 05, 2020
Seeing as most of the leaks are from minors, they’d probably let us go with a warning, maybe some monitoring afterwards.
I think Hyperion is going to have xceed’ and Helios Zone+/metal
RE: B-174 All in One Set - KoHFreedomNA - Oct. 05, 2020
I know I’m new here, and an old man... But here we go...
I am trained and educated in Constitutional Law here in the US and don’t know of any cases where a “leak” was considered a copyright infringement. The only situation it would be copyright infringement related to this site would be YouTube and other monetized sites attached to postings due to the possibility of making money off of said post. In the case of the average person on this forum, their posts shouldn’t be making any money, thus are considered “Free Speech” under the law. I normally wouldn’t say anything, but I am passionate and have been an arbiter of the law throughout my adult life and take it very seriously, so passing on some knowledge to people who may fear things they should not is important to me.
If anyone knows of a case involving a forum, or if somehow people are making money via posts here, then I would be intrigued to hear that argument and learn from your sharing.
To put this into account, if it were copyright infringement to post a “leak” then it would be infringement to post pictures of Corocoro or materials after the product comes out as well.
All of that said, I AM NOT providing law services via this post NOR know the laws outside of the USA, but as an American citizen you would fall under US law, not the infringement law of other nations (Not over posts anyway).
Don’t fear the law too much, at least here in the US freedom is amazing when it comes to education and sharing.
Cheers all!
RE: B-174 All in One Set - DeltaZakuro - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 11:22 PM)KoHFreedomNA Wrote: I know I’m new here, and an old man... But here we go...carefull he's a hero
I am trained and educated in Constitutional Law here in the US and don’t know of any cases where a “leak” was considered a copyright infringement. The only situation it would be copyright infringement related to this site would be YouTube and other monetized sites attached to postings due to the possibility of making money off of said post. In the case of the average person on this forum, their posts shouldn’t be making any money, thus are considered “Free Speech” under the law. I normally wouldn’t say anything, but I am passionate and have been an arbiter of the law throughout my adult life and take it very seriously, so passing on some knowledge to people who may fear things they should not is important to me.
If anyone knows of a case involving a forum, or if somehow people are making money via posts here, then I would be intrigued to hear that argument and learn from your sharing.
To put this into account, if it were copyright infringement to post a “leak” then it would be infringement to post pictures of Corocoro or materials after the product comes out as well.
All of that said, I AM NOT providing law services via this post NOR know the laws outside of the USA, but as an American citizen you would fall under US law, not the infringement law of other nations (Not over posts anyway).
Don’t fear the law too much, at least here in the US freedom is amazing when it comes to education and sharing.
Cheers all!
THANK YOU! im so glad an expert actually came and cleared this up.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 05, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 11:22 PM)KoHFreedomNA Wrote: I know I’m new here, and an old man... But here we go...
I am trained and educated in Constitutional Law here in the US and don’t know of any cases where a “leak” was considered a copyright infringement. The only situation it would be copyright infringement related to this site would be YouTube and other monetized sites attached to postings due to the possibility of making money off of said post. In the case of the average person on this forum, their posts shouldn’t be making any money, thus are considered “Free Speech” under the law. I normally wouldn’t say anything, but I am passionate and have been an arbiter of the law throughout my adult life and take it very seriously, so passing on some knowledge to people who may fear things they should not is important to me.
If anyone knows of a case involving a forum, or if somehow people are making money via posts here, then I would be intrigued to hear that argument and learn from your sharing.
To put this into account, if it were copyright infringement to post a “leak” then it would be infringement to post pictures of Corocoro or materials after the product comes out as well.
All of that said, I AM NOT providing law services via this post NOR know the laws outside of the USA, but as an American citizen you would fall under US law, not the infringement law of other nations (Not over posts anyway).
Don’t fear the law too much, at least here in the US freedom is amazing when it comes to education and sharing.
Cheers all!
You were a little bit late. We’re discussing this Beyblade release now. If you’re here just to discuss the law I would recommend debate.org not the WBO. If you’re here to discuss beyblade, then a warm welcome to our humble community
RE: B-174 All in One Set - Cat-Daddy - Oct. 06, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 11:31 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 11:22 PM)KoHFreedomNA Wrote: I know I’m new here, and an old man... But here we go...
I am trained and educated in Constitutional Law here in the US and don’t know of any cases where a “leak” was considered a copyright infringement. The only situation it would be copyright infringement related to this site would be YouTube and other monetized sites attached to postings due to the possibility of making money off of said post. In the case of the average person on this forum, their posts shouldn’t be making any money, thus are considered “Free Speech” under the law. I normally wouldn’t say anything, but I am passionate and have been an arbiter of the law throughout my adult life and take it very seriously, so passing on some knowledge to people who may fear things they should not is important to me.
If anyone knows of a case involving a forum, or if somehow people are making money via posts here, then I would be intrigued to hear that argument and learn from your sharing.
To put this into account, if it were copyright infringement to post a “leak” then it would be infringement to post pictures of Corocoro or materials after the product comes out as well.
All of that said, I AM NOT providing law services via this post NOR know the laws outside of the USA, but as an American citizen you would fall under US law, not the infringement law of other nations (Not over posts anyway).
Don’t fear the law too much, at least here in the US freedom is amazing when it comes to education and sharing.
Cheers all!
You were a little bit late. We’re discussing this Beyblade release now. If you’re here just to discuss the law I would recommend debate.org not the WBO. If you’re here to discuss beyblade, then a warm welcome to our humble community
lol really? the guy has an expertise and definitive answer to the topic both you and organizers were just talking about.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 06, 2020
(Oct. 06, 2020 12:11 AM)Cat-Daddy Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 11:31 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: You were a little bit late. We’re discussing this Beyblade release now. If you’re here just to discuss the law I would recommend debate.org not the WBO. If you’re here to discuss beyblade, then a warm welcome to our humble community
lol really? the guy has an expertise and definitive answer to the topic both you and organizers were just talking about.
I was trying to bring it back on subject. My opening may sound harsh, but the username is reminiscent to that of a spambot so I was trying not to take any risks. Besides CheetoBlader settled that debate beforehand.
RE: B-174 All in One Set - SupaDav03 - Oct. 06, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 8:55 PM)marutti Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 8:27 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: There is no “going to jail” for sharing pics after official release date. Do you think everyone who retweets (and therefore is re-sharing a Corocoro tweet with pics) is breaking the law? That’s ridiculous. Common sense will let you that’s mot the cause or 5 minutes on Google.Have you ever study law?
marutti please do not spread misinformation. Thank you.
I mean it's OK to share pic which TT released officially.
But magazine there is copyright and it shouldn't spread.
Do you have common sense? SupaDav03
Actually yes, I have studied the law as I’ve worked in both the Compliance and a
Advertising dept at American Express, my current employer.
Generally the “Fair Use Law” covers most reposting on social media. So while theoretically it COULD happen, it is hardly, if ever pursued once the official announcement/picture/release has gone public.
Leaks are 100% prohibited and if you’d like to be extra cautious, share the pictures AFTER release in a private way (email, direct messages, etc).
Anyways...let’s not derail this thread any further speaking about something off topic.
And marutti please do not direct negative comments to other posters or staff. Disagreements can be had without resulting to personal comments about people. That can lead to warning % as it’s a violation of WBO rules.
PS: I just wanted to add that we LOVE your contributions to the site - so keep those great post coming (within the rules, of course 👍🏼)
RE: B-174 All in One Set - Eclipse Force - Oct. 06, 2020
(Oct. 05, 2020 10:38 PM)marutti Wrote: BTW, Who pay that much fine for 6$ magazine?
Trust me, they wont take you to prison for leaking a spinning top toy meant for children in 3rd grade
But could we, you know, discuss the product now? Haven't done that for a few pages
RE: B-174 All in One Set - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 06, 2020
(Oct. 06, 2020 1:31 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:(Oct. 05, 2020 10:38 PM)marutti Wrote: BTW, Who pay that much fine for 6$ magazine?
Trust me, they wont take you to prison for leaking a spinning top toy meant for children in 3rd grade
Bruh that was 2 hours ago. Further discussion about the topic of law should go into this thread: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-A-Warm-Welcome-to-the-Team-Moderation-Team-Expansion