(Oct. 12, 2019  10:24 PM)KnightPro Wrote: Am i the only one concerned about the battery part of these new beys?? What happens if we run out of batterys for the driver... will they still work??

(Oct. 12, 2019  6:31 PM)CrazyAries Wrote: A better pic. Not sure what the source is.

(Oct. 13, 2019  1:19 AM)MGoldZeo Wrote:

(Oct. 12, 2019  6:31 PM)CrazyAries Wrote: A better pic. Not sure what the source is.

I think it’s safe to assume that this also has infinite lock because there are no prongs of the disk visible.

(Oct. 13, 2019  1:30 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:

(Oct. 13, 2019  1:19 AM)MGoldZeo Wrote: I think it’s safe to assume that this also has infinite lock because there are no prongs of the disk visible.

The are visible, just very hard to see. I doubt that this will have the Infinite Lock because it looks like an upgraded Dragon Chip with on the Imperial Base, which can't hold a Weight, just like Lord. Lord had a reason to not have a Chip, which was that it would be hard to put the Dual Spin mechanism in without the blue piece there, so that makes me wonder what mechanism Imperial will have. Someone mentioned that it'll have a gimmick to rival the Infinite Lock, but Burst Stoppers like the ones on the Cho-Z Awakening Beys is the only thing I can think of.

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:06 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:

(Oct. 13, 2019  1:30 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: The are visible, just very hard to see. I doubt that this will have the Infinite Lock because it looks like an upgraded Dragon Chip with on the Imperial Base, which can't hold a Weight, just like Lord. Lord had a reason to not have a Chip, which was that it would be hard to put the Dual Spin mechanism in without the blue piece there, so that makes me wonder what mechanism Imperial will have. Someone mentioned that it'll have a gimmick to rival the Infinite Lock, but Burst Stoppers like the ones on the Cho-Z Awakening Beys is the only thing I can think of.

It could have pure metal within the crevices where a Weight should be (since there won't be a dual-spin gimmick on this one due to the shape alone), plus possibly some rubber contact points similar to the Power Mode of Union Base. Having a Burst Stopper gimmick would be in poor taste and should be kept in the Chouzetsu System (imo), but considering its shape, it may have nice upper attacks that might still need that. Ig' could already help with the Burst resistance due to the increased spring strength, so the Burst Stopper may be too redundant and boring (unless it has some sort of Burst resistors like Lord or Judgment). 

Good to know that the Disk+Driver is painted, as that gives it a premium feel compared to bare silver metal parts. Loving the redesign of the Chip too, which kind of looks like a Mega-Evolution of some sort for Dragon. If redesigns also counted as "new" Chips, it would probably make things too confusing and like a clusterf-carp of a lineup just naming the combo.

It would seem that they ran out quickly of ideas for new Disks and Drivers that are exclusively for GT, is probably why they started digging for older concepts like battery-powered and lighting parts.

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:06 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:

(Oct. 13, 2019  1:30 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: The are visible, just very hard to see. I doubt that this will have the Infinite Lock because it looks like an upgraded Dragon Chip with on the Imperial Base, which can't hold a Weight, just like Lord. Lord had a reason to not have a Chip, which was that it would be hard to put the Dual Spin mechanism in without the blue piece there, so that makes me wonder what mechanism Imperial will have. Someone mentioned that it'll have a gimmick to rival the Infinite Lock, but Burst Stoppers like the ones on the Cho-Z Awakening Beys is the only thing I can think of.

It could have pure metal within the crevices where a Weight should be (since there won't be a dual-spin gimmick on this one due to the shape alone), plus possibly some rubber contact points similar to the Power Mode of Union Base. Having a Burst Stopper gimmick would be in poor taste and should be kept in the Chouzetsu System (imo), but considering its shape, it may have nice upper attacks that might still need that. Ig' could already help with the Burst resistance due to the increased spring strength, so the Burst Stopper may be too redundant and boring (unless it has some sort of Burst resistors like Lord or Judgment). 

Good to know that the Disk+Driver is painted, as that gives it a premium feel compared to bare silver metal parts. Loving the redesign of the Chip too, which kind of looks like a Mega-Evolution of some sort for Dragon. If redesigns also counted as "new" Chips, it would probably make things too confusing and like a clusterf-carp of a lineup just naming the combo.

It would seem that they ran out quickly of ideas for new Disks and Drivers that are exclusively for GT, is probably why they started digging for older concepts like battery-powered and lighting parts.

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:10 AM)JoMario67 Wrote:

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:06 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: It could have pure metal within the crevices where a Weight should be (since there won't be a dual-spin gimmick on this one due to the shape alone), plus possibly some rubber contact points similar to the Power Mode of Union Base. Having a Burst Stopper gimmick would be in poor taste and should be kept in the Chouzetsu System (imo), but considering its shape, it may have nice upper attacks that might still need that. Ig' could already help with the Burst resistance due to the increased spring strength, so the Burst Stopper may be too redundant and boring (unless it has some sort of Burst resistors like Lord or Judgment). 

Good to know that the Disk+Driver is painted, as that gives it a premium feel compared to bare silver metal parts. Loving the redesign of the Chip too, which kind of looks like a Mega-Evolution of some sort for Dragon. If redesigns also counted as "new" Chips, it would probably make things too confusing and like a clusterf-carp of a lineup just naming the combo.

It would seem that they ran out quickly of ideas for new Disks and Drivers that are exclusively for GT, is probably why they started digging for older concepts like battery-powered and lighting parts.

The prongs are plastic on electric drivers

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:21 AM)Armor Wrote: Also, what about the driver name? Anyone have any ideas? Ignite or Ignition seems likely to match the gimmick. However(maybe just because I like Gundam), Ig makes me think Igelstellung.

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:26 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:

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(Oct. 13, 2019  2:06 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: It could have pure metal within the crevices where a Weight should be (since there won't be a dual-spin gimmick on this one due to the shape alone), plus possibly some rubber contact points similar to the Power Mode of Union Base. Having a Burst Stopper gimmick would be in poor taste and should be kept in the Chouzetsu System (imo), but considering its shape, it may have nice upper attacks that might still need that. Ig' could already help with the Burst resistance due to the increased spring strength, so the Burst Stopper may be too redundant and boring (unless it has some sort of Burst resistors like Lord or Judgment). 

Good to know that the Disk+Driver is painted, as that gives it a premium feel compared to bare silver metal parts. Loving the redesign of the Chip too, which kind of looks like a Mega-Evolution of some sort for Dragon. If redesigns also counted as "new" Chips, it would probably make things too confusing and like a clusterf-carp of a lineup just naming the combo.

It would seem that they ran out quickly of ideas for new Disks and Drivers that are exclusively for GT, is probably why they started digging for older concepts like battery-powered and lighting parts.

Yeah, it's probably not Burst Stoppers, but there has to be some hidden mechanism in the Layer. It's also really chunky, which reminds me of the Cho-Z Awakening Beys. Also, the prongs on the Ig' Driver are just made of clear blue plastic, not metal. The metal will be in the same place as the RipFire Discs, but not detachable. There's probably a way to differentiate the different Chips, the same way the MFB Clear Wheels had Roman Numerals to help identify which iteration it was, such as Pegasis II being a redesigned version of the original Pegasis Clear Wheel, and Pegasis III being pretty much the same design as Pegasis II but with little metal filings.

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:37 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:10 AM)JoMario67 Wrote: The prongs are plastic on electric drivers

Huh, so even Hy on the GT Customize Set will be plastic-pronged phooey? That kinda makes it suck. I never had the Dual Spin Chouzetsu Stadium Set, so I'm not sure if even the Mugen and Mugen L Drivers have plastic prongs too.

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:21 AM)Armor Wrote: Also, what about the driver name? Anyone have any ideas? Ignite or Ignition seems likely to match the gimmick. However(maybe just because I like Gundam), Ig makes me think Igelstellung.

Ignition might be the most plausible considering that this is most probably an Attack Type (tho I would contest Ignite could also work. tbh I read Ig like "Igneel" from Fairy Tail lol

(Oct. 13, 2019  2:26 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:

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Yeah, it's probably not Burst Stoppers, but there has to be some hidden mechanism in the Layer. It's also really chunky, which reminds me of the Cho-Z Awakening Beys. Also, the prongs on the Ig' Driver are just made of clear blue plastic, not metal. The metal will be in the same place as the RipFire Discs, but not detachable. There's probably a way to differentiate the different Chips, the same way the MFB Clear Wheels had Roman Numerals to help identify which iteration it was, such as Pegasis II being a redesigned version of the original Pegasis Clear Wheel, and Pegasis III being pretty much the same design as Pegasis II but with little metal filings.

"Dragon II" or "Dragon V2" might make some sense and could avoid confusion (somewhat) instead of say, an upside-down "A" for Achilles to distinguish from Ashura or not having a Weight name on the combo for Diabolos to distinguish from Dragon.

(Oct. 13, 2019  6:04 PM)piranhatronrex Wrote: I hope they don't make Imperial Dragon a noncustomizable layer like Prime Apocalypse and Regalia Genesis, because if they do, there is no way Imperial Dragon will come with 3 other layer bases and they won't be able to complete the Alphabet

(Oct. 14, 2019  2:14 AM)Rocketmann Wrote: It's nice seeing this new Dragon, but it just feels like they're giving Dragon WAY too much attention at this point. Kinda dampens the feeling for me.

(Oct. 14, 2019  4:09 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:

(Oct. 14, 2019  2:14 AM)Rocketmann Wrote: It's nice seeing this new Dragon, but it just feels like they're giving Dragon WAY too much attention at this point. Kinda dampens the feeling for me.

What do you mean? Aside from the original release, it has only been in weird combos for Random Boosters and the Triple Booster. It's not like it has 3 major releases that give it new Bases, plus Drum needs a mid-season upgrade to make his Bey better in the anime and real life, plus Ace Dragon's design isn't as attractive as the newer releases.

(Oct. 14, 2019  4:11 AM)#Fafnir Wrote:

(Oct. 14, 2019  4:09 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: What do you mean? Aside from the original release, it has only been in weird combos for Random Boosters and the Triple Booster. It's not like it has 3 major releases that give it new Bases, plus Drum needs a mid-season upgrade to make his Bey better in the anime and real life, plus Ace Dragon's design isn't as attractive as the newer releases.

I agree, Dragon needs an upgrade. I'd also like an upgrade for Ashura, although that isn't going to happen maybe it will be the B-157.

(Oct. 14, 2019  4:09 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:

(Oct. 14, 2019  2:14 AM)Rocketmann Wrote: It's nice seeing this new Dragon, but it just feels like they're giving Dragon WAY too much attention at this point. Kinda dampens the feeling for me.

What do you mean? Aside from the original release, it has only been in weird combos for Random Boosters and the Triple Booster. It's not like it has 3 major releases that give it new Bases, plus Drum needs a mid-season upgrade to make his Bey better in the anime and real life, plus Ace Dragon's design isn't as attractive as the newer releases.

(Oct. 13, 2019  7:45 PM)BeyCrafter Wrote:

(Oct. 13, 2019  6:04 PM)piranhatronrex Wrote: I hope they don't make Imperial Dragon a  noncustomizable layer like Prime Apocalypse and Regalia Genesis, because if they do, there is no way Imperial Dragon will come with 3 other layer bases and they won't be able to complete the Alphabet

It still a part of the Gatchi Layer System. The Imperial base has the same pegs that attach to the sides of the chip. And the new Dragon chip has the holes that every chip has at the ends.

(Oct. 14, 2019  5:48 PM)marutti Wrote:

(Oct. 14, 2019  6:19 PM)BeyGabe Wrote:

(Oct. 14, 2019  5:48 PM)marutti Wrote:

Okay now THAT's a dragon, dang!

(Oct. 14, 2019  7:14 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: I doubt that this is an Infinite Lock Bey, since that would make this into a Dual Spin Bey.