(Jul. 09, 2023  8:31 PM)Orichalcum Wrote:

(Jul. 09, 2023  6:38 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: To be fair Thats mostly Cause Bell a very Inconsistente sometimes he looks very strong while other time he looks average. Theirs aslo the whole Bell's DLC package giving him a big power boost (for some reason). But Bell is really the issue with how the use him in certain battles

I’m namely talking about Fafnir vs Gearless Dynamite Belial compared to Xcalius vs Divine Belial. Fafnir got hit with a barrage and had it’s Spin stealing negged while Xcalius one shotted. No special moves or resonance needed. Both got a burst, but Free mid diffed while Xander negged. Hence why I think Xander could actually beat Free.

(Jul. 09, 2023  10:04 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Jul. 09, 2023  8:31 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: I’m namely talking about Fafnir vs Gearless Dynamite Belial compared to Xcalius vs Divine Belial. Fafnir got hit with a barrage and had it’s Spin stealing negged while Xcalius one shotted. No special moves or resonance needed. Both got a burst, but Free mid diffed while Xander negged. Hence why I think Xander could actually beat Free.

About free getting barrage and spin steal we need to remenber free is Not a brute Force type blader spin steal has always been his way of Fighting. While Xhaka is an attack type blader who focus of brute Force Just like Lui we have seen Lui also push fafnir without issue but Both are suppossedly equal (state by the author on Twitter). The reason Xhaka one shot Is very simply its cause of his fighting style which is attack while free has always been draining his opponet (hence why fafnir has so much Rubber) fafnir never had offensive power so make sense fafnir wouldnt compete againts a bey Who specialize on pure attack.

(Jul. 10, 2023  12:47 AM)Orichalcum Wrote:

(Jul. 09, 2023  10:04 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: About free getting barrage and spin steal we need to remenber free is Not a brute Force type blader spin steal has always been his way of Fighting. While Xhaka is an attack type blader who focus of brute Force Just like Lui we have seen Lui also push fafnir without issue but Both are suppossedly equal (state by the author on Twitter). The reason Xhaka one shot Is very simply its cause of his fighting style which is attack while free has always been draining his opponet (hence why fafnir has so much Rubber) fafnir never had offensive power so make sense fafnir wouldnt compete againts a bey Who specialize on pure attack.

Wouldn’t that mean that Xhaka would beat Free, especially since he can use the same strategy Bell used except with much more AP?

(Jul. 10, 2023  1:01 AM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Jul. 10, 2023  12:47 AM)Orichalcum Wrote: Wouldn’t that mean that Xhaka would beat Free, especially since he can use the same strategy Bell used except with much more AP?

It depends free can survive Lui's onslaught of attacks and we know Lui is the defination of pure brute strenght he has higher firepower than Xhaka theirs also the factor if Xhaka has enough stamima to finish off Fafnir because. Its 50/50 cause the person is different free will be on his guard cause he knows Xhaka is all about strenght the sama he knew Lui was all about strenght as well back in the God bladers Cup fafnir simply resist until free uses everything he had to take out Longinus so its a matter of strategy. Another example of strategy would be the How different The Phi vs Free and Phi vs Shu went unlike Free during his match Shu knew where to go from the Beginning which was Phoenix amor Shu knew where the danger was in target it sealing the armor he only lost site of what Phi was going to do for a slipt second in lost, but with free tactic was kind of differ and lost faster and more brutality.

(Jul. 10, 2023  5:18 AM)Orichalcum Wrote:

(Jul. 10, 2023  1:01 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: It depends free can survive Lui's onslaught of attacks and we know Lui is the defination of pure brute strenght he has higher firepower than Xhaka theirs also the factor if Xhaka has enough stamima to finish off Fafnir because. Its 50/50 cause the person is different free will be on his guard cause he knows Xhaka is all about strenght the sama he knew Lui was all about strenght as well back in the God bladers Cup fafnir simply resist until free uses everything he had to take out Longinus so its a matter of strategy. Another example of strategy would be the How different The Phi vs Free and Phi vs Shu went unlike Free during his match Shu knew where to go from the Beginning which was Phoenix amor Shu knew where the danger was in target it sealing the armor he only lost site of what Phi was going to do for a slipt second in lost, but with free tactic was kind of differ and lost faster and more brutality.

1.We have zero reason too assume that Vanish Fafnir can take anything Comparable to Guilty’s AP, considering that Longinus trashed a stronger Belial repeatedly while Fafnir got burst by the three year version.
2. Xcalius should have comparable stamina to Dynamite Belial with no gears, since the only reason for it’s endurance was low mode.
3. Free used no intelligent strategies in DB. In fact, he got outsmarted by Bell even after already facing him and only won because Fafnir moved of it’s own accord. Even worse, Bell played Free at his own game, spin stealing.

(Jul. 10, 2023  5:10 PM)Phantom legend Wrote:

(Jul. 10, 2023  5:18 AM)Orichalcum Wrote: 1.We have zero reason too assume that Vanish Fafnir can take anything Comparable to Guilty’s AP, considering that Longinus trashed a stronger Belial repeatedly while Fafnir got burst by the three year version.
2. Xcalius should have comparable stamina to Dynamite Belial with no gears, since the only reason for it’s endurance was low mode.
3. Free used no intelligent strategies in DB. In fact, he got outsmarted by Bell even after already facing him and only won because Fafnir moved of it’s own accord. Even worse, Bell played Free at his own game, spin stealing.

1. We actually do. Free and Lui are rivals for a reason, as both bladers have always been on par with each other for the most part with Free being the stronger one between the two. It's been like that ever since Burst God.

2. Now that part has zero reasoning too assume, since Belial has never been tested in a game of stamina outside the battle with free where he had to use the F gear to spin steal. Xcalibur was only tested in a game of stamina once and he wasn't even using his full power. 

3. Now this I semi agree with. But every Blader gets lucky here and there Free is no exception. Plus Bell only got the advantage because Free didn't know that Belial could accelerate when it was that low on stamina. When it also came to spin stealing both bladers were pretty equal since spin equalization only works one way the battle even shows this when both battle on low stamina and how they couldn't drain anymore than they could.

4. It's been shown in DB that ever since Free lost he's been training and going on world tours to improve his skills. So  he's gotten stronger, every legend has. Plus there's a reason why Free is S rank 4 while Xander is S rank 10.

(Jul. 23, 2023  6:41 AM)Cath Wrote: Are we going to get a fire elemental version of Pandora?

(Jul. 27, 2023  9:00 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: Rashad vs Aiga (Both Current). Who wins and why?

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:27 PM)lil-iz Wrote:

(Jul. 27, 2023  9:00 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: Rashad vs Aiga (Both Current). Who wins and why?

Aiga obviously, if Bell beats Rashad and Bell loses to Aiger, then Rashad will lose to Aiger lol

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:31 PM)g2_ Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:27 PM)lil-iz Wrote: Aiga obviously, if Bell beats Rashad and Bell loses to Aiger, then Rashad will lose to Aiger lol

Bel was 10 times stronger in the previous season. He went from beating Free, Shu, Lui, Valt to getting one shotted by Xander, and losing to Kitt.

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:32 PM)lil-iz Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:31 PM)g2_ Wrote: Bel was 10 times stronger in the previous season. He went from beating Free, Shu, Lui, Valt to getting one shotted by Xander, and losing to Kitt.

Then that means Rashad will be 10x worse in QuadStrike right? Since they’re on the same power level.

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:32 PM)lil-iz Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:31 PM)g2_ Wrote: Bel was 10 times stronger in the previous season. He went from beating Free, Shu, Lui, Valt to getting one shotted by Xander, and losing to Kitt.

Then that means Rashad will be 10x worse in QuadStrike right? Since they’re on the same power level.

(Jul. 31, 2023  8:53 PM)Orichalcum Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:32 PM)lil-iz Wrote: Then that means Rashad will be 10x worse in QuadStrike right? Since they’re on the same power level.

Then why didn’t Valt get nerfed in QS? After all he was relative to end of season DB Bell. And Aiga is weaker than Valt and Shu. Why isn’t Bell mopping him?

(Jul. 31, 2023  9:09 PM)lil-iz Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2023  8:53 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: Then why didn’t Valt get nerfed in QS? After all he was relative to end of season DB Bell. And Aiga is weaker than Valt and Shu. Why isn’t Bell mopping him?

Bad writing? Also they fixed Valt and the legends I think in QS and gave them a buff. They nerfed every legend in QD to make the protagonist and antagonist seem cool. Also the proof for rashad’s nerf is that the writers always do that, like with every single legend

(Jul. 31, 2023  9:21 PM)Orichalcum Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2023  9:09 PM)lil-iz Wrote: Bad writing? Also they fixed Valt and the legends I think in QS and gave them a buff. They nerfed every legend in QD to make the protagonist and antagonist seem cool. Also the proof for rashad’s nerf is that the writers always do that, like with every single legend

But that’s reasoning, not evidence. Based on feats, I say Rashad wins. He has more modes, experience with his bey, Special Moves, gimmicks, and has beaten Savior Valkyrie and Perfect year Dangerous Belial. And if what you’re saying is true, why is Kitt bullying Pri so badly?

(Jul. 31, 2023  7:19 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: Using power levels for Burst is very inconsistent as Legends are losing to beginner Bladers when they’ve only bladed for like a month or so. It’s not really any skill and the power levels aren’t consistent so there’s no point in debating who can beat who it’s up to who the plot needs to win. Debating won’t do anything so I’d just wait to see what the episode does cause in the end it’s all just about what the plots about.

(Jul. 31, 2023  8:53 PM)Orichalcum Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2023  5:32 PM)lil-iz Wrote: Then that means Rashad will be 10x worse in QuadStrike right? Since they’re on the same power level.

Then why didn’t Valt get nerfed in QS? After all he was relative to end of season DB Bell. And Aiga is weaker than Valt and Shu. Why isn’t Bell mopping him?

(Aug. 01, 2023  5:42 AM)UnderbossBlader Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2023  8:53 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: Then why didn’t Valt get nerfed in QS? After all he was relative to end of season DB Bell. And Aiga is weaker than Valt and Shu. Why isn’t Bell mopping him?

Maybe because Aiga's one of the strongest ranked bladers in the world and Bell needs gears and or plot to beat people stronger than him unless the blader he's up against actually is weaker than him which Aiga is not; Hence why Bell isn't mopping him. And even with his many many upgrades Bell was never mopping people that clearly outskilled, ranked or powered him. He litterally spent all of DB losing to Rashad and only beat him 1 v 1 once, and that was in the finale when the plot guranteed it. Bell was a very inconsistant blader from start to finish of DB that's still present in QS. As for current Rashad vs Aiga, Aiga would win. Rashad's not in QS so he can't be really be "current" and his DB feats don't compare to Aiga's s3-5 feats. Rashad has more modes, but less special moves and less experience with his bey than Aiga has with achilles. And end of DB Rashad also got swept in his last battle with Valt 3 to 0. The same Valt that Aiger just had a draw with and was shown to still be equally matched to. Valt has only been getting stronger since he last battled Rashad. So again I would say Aiga beats Rashad.

(Aug. 01, 2023  6:19 AM)Orichalcum Wrote:

(Aug. 01, 2023  5:42 AM)UnderbossBlader Wrote: Maybe because Aiga's one of the strongest ranked bladers in the world and Bell needs gears and or plot to beat people stronger than him unless the blader he's up against actually is weaker than him which Aiga is not; Hence why Bell isn't mopping him. And even with his many many upgrades Bell was never mopping people that clearly outskilled, ranked or powered him. He litterally spent all of DB losing to Rashad and only beat him 1 v 1 once, and that was in the finale when the plot guranteed it. Bell was a very inconsistant blader from start to finish of DB that's still present in QS. As for current Rashad vs Aiga, Aiga would win. Rashad's not in QS so he can't be really be "current" and his DB feats don't compare to Aiga's s3-5 feats. Rashad has more modes, but less special moves and less experience with his bey than Aiga has with achilles. And end of DB Rashad also got swept in his last battle with Valt 3 to 0. The same Valt that Aiger just had a draw with and was shown to still be equally matched to. Valt has only been getting stronger since he last battled Rashad. So again I would say Aiga beats Rashad.

What do you mean? First of all, Bell has beaten Valt using a Gearless Dynamite and Dangerous Belial. Second, how do Aiga’s feats in S3-5 translate to QS? Remember when his hair went gold in Cho z and how that never happened again? Or how he had Special Moves like Whip, Launch, Dive, and defense that weren’t translated to Infinite Achilles? Third, Aiga has only one Special Move with Zeal Achilles, while Rashad has five with Raphael. In Aiga’s last battle with Valt, neither were using Special Moves or resonance unlike literally every battle Valt had with Rashad. And Valt ironically has better feats in DB than QS. Remember Ultimate Dive? Finally, Rapheal was damaged in its final battle against Valkyrie  and Rashad hadn’t made Greatest slam yet, so wasn’t even close to prime Raphael. I personally think that Rashad mid diffs at worst.

(Aug. 01, 2023  6:19 AM)Orichalcum Wrote:

(Aug. 01, 2023  5:42 AM)UnderbossBlader Wrote: Maybe because Aiga's one of the strongest ranked bladers in the world and Bell needs gears and or plot to beat people stronger than him unless the blader he's up against actually is weaker than him which Aiga is not; Hence why Bell isn't mopping him. And even with his many many upgrades Bell was never mopping people that clearly outskilled, ranked or powered him. He litterally spent all of DB losing to Rashad and only beat him 1 v 1 once, and that was in the finale when the plot guranteed it. Bell was a very inconsistant blader from start to finish of DB that's still present in QS. As for current Rashad vs Aiga, Aiga would win. Rashad's not in QS so he can't be really be "current" and his DB feats don't compare to Aiga's s3-5 feats. Rashad has more modes, but less special moves and less experience with his bey than Aiga has with achilles. And end of DB Rashad also got swept in his last battle with Valt 3 to 0. The same Valt that Aiger just had a draw with and was shown to still be equally matched to. Valt has only been getting stronger since he last battled Rashad. So again I would say Aiga beats Rashad.

What do you mean? First of all, Bell has beaten Valt using a Gearless Dynamite and Dangerous Belial. Second, how do Aiga’s feats in S3-5 translate to QS? Remember when his hair went gold in Cho z and how that never happened again? Or how he had Special Moves like Whip, Launch, Dive, and defense that weren’t translated to Infinite Achilles? Third, Aiga has only one Special Move with Zeal Achilles, while Rashad has five with Raphael. In Aiga’s last battle with Valt, neither were using Special Moves or resonance unlike literally every battle Valt had with Rashad. And Valt ironically has better feats in DB than QS. Remember Ultimate Dive? Finally, Rapheal was damaged in its final battle against Valkyrie  and Rashad hadn’t made Greatest slam yet, so wasn’t even close to prime Raphael. I personally think that Rashad mid diffs at worst.