(Oct. 25, 2022  3:04 AM)Phantom legend Wrote: (Welp 4 day late reply on lane but eh)
Imo i feel like Lane wasn't handled the best here and there. Like he had a pretty solid set up (base foundation) with his high  potential from his flare and Shu wanting to train him because of this. Lane definitely had a good start up as we see him training with Shu (aka the second best/strongest blader in the world) learning how to hone his skills to become a better and stronger blader that can go toe to toe with legends. But the thing i really don’t  like about lane is how it doesn't feel like he’s strategically planning out what he wants to do or has a game plan. When lane battles it usually feels one sided as Variant wall or LBTE usually gives him a automatic win and even when hes backed against the wall for the majority of a battle he somehow finds a way to win by just using one of those 2 moves (ex: Lui vs lane. Lui was crushing lucifer against the wall with its full force and was pushing it around the entire stadium). Lane does feel powerful but powerful in the wrong way (hopefully that makes sense) like some to most of his wins just dont feel earned as he either gets caught in the corner for a majority of the battle and just wins or just one-siding the whole battle and the thing is for most of the time we dont see him train just sit there looking down on others. Do i dislike lane? No hes a pretty decent antagonist imo thats just me view on lane though.

(Oct. 25, 2022  4:06 AM)Achilles25 Wrote:

(Oct. 25, 2022  3:04 AM)Phantom legend Wrote: (Welp 4 day late reply on lane but eh)
Imo i feel like Lane wasn't handled the best here and there. Like he had a pretty solid set up (base foundation) with his high  potential from his flare and Shu wanting to train him because of this. Lane definitely had a good start up as we see him training with Shu (aka the second best/strongest blader in the world) learning how to hone his skills to become a better and stronger blader that can go toe to toe with legends. But the thing i really don’t  like about lane is how it doesn't feel like he’s strategically planning out what he wants to do or has a game plan. When lane battles it usually feels one sided as Variant wall or LBTE usually gives him a automatic win and even when hes backed against the wall for the majority of a battle he somehow finds a way to win by just using one of those 2 moves (ex: Lui vs lane. Lui was crushing lucifer against the wall with its full force and was pushing it around the entire stadium). Lane does feel powerful but powerful in the wrong way (hopefully that makes sense) like some to most of his wins just dont feel earned as he either gets caught in the corner for a majority of the battle and just wins or just one-siding the whole battle and the thing is for most of the time we dont see him train just sit there looking down on others. Do i dislike lane? No hes a pretty decent antagonist imo thats just me view on lane though.

I can respect this. Would you agree that some of the battles Lain wins are just because he's stronger than his opponent?

(Oct. 25, 2022  5:08 AM)Phantom legend Wrote:

(Oct. 25, 2022  4:06 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: I can respect this. Would you agree that some of the battles Lain wins are just because he's stronger than his opponent?

Against bladers like ranjiro, hyuga, and hikaru. Yes yes i can, but against the legends no. They are called legends because they are the strongest bladers in the world and lane was swatting them like flies and even when he was backed against the wall he would just scream Variant wall or LBTE and win despite having the odds against him. Yes i know comebacks exist but lanes comebacks dont feel clever or earned it just feels like they need to make him win.
Examples
Lui vs lane: Lui had the upper hand the entire battle as he was pushing lucifer around the entire stadium and crushed them between Longinus and the wall with extreme force yet lucifer wins with a burst because variant wall.

Battle royal A: Lane literally tanked the power of 4 bladers (3 being legends and hikaru) and simply won by screaming variant wall knocking out all 4 without a challenge.

Valt vs Lane: throughout the entire series up to that point the entire goal was to remove the barrier from lucifer because when the barrier was removed they became “Defenseless” as the barrier was its greatest strength and Valkyrie did just that as they sent Lucifer flying in 1 hit breaking the barrier. But nope Lucifer is still strong as ever and even becomes stronger somehow despite having lost the barrier and stamina and wins with Variant disaster.

These were were the best 3 i could remember atm.
Lanes wins really dont feel earned to me really but thats just me. I know (think) you have a different outlook on him.

(Oct. 26, 2022  4:14 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: The Lui vs Lain and the battle Royal was bad that i agree. i think the Valt vs Lain was actually ok cause the keep focusing in the barrier is Lucifer strenght once its down urs defenless but thats the thing the Legends and us just assune Lain would be defenless we never asume Lain also knew that weaknness an simply trained to cover that weakness i mean shu give Valt the weakness and lui knew it after a few blow from him but lain most likely cover that weakness prior which came up as a surprised to everyone look what happen when after Lain showed variant disaster he was Now truely defenless cause Now the know he got to forms. Its like when The focus on Phi everyone was like its armor is what makes him a threat (which was true) but it turns out he can still fight without to much of an issue you know why cause he knew that one day someone Would breakthrough. The only bladers that had a weakness that lost was both Arthur and Gwynn their weaknness was lethal to the point Gwynn made that armor (which Again had a fatal weakness cause their was almost no way to stop it)

(Oct. 26, 2022  4:14 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: The Lui vs Lain and the battle Royal was bad that i agree. i think the Valt vs Lain was actually ok cause the keep focusing in the barrier is Lucifer strenght once its down urs defenless but thats the thing the Legends and us just assune Lain would be defenless we never asume Lain also knew that weaknness an simply trained to cover that weakness i mean shu give Valt the weakness and lui knew it after a few blow from him but lain most likely cover that weakness prior which came up as a surprised to everyone look what happen when after Lain showed variant disaster he was Now truely defenless cause Now the know he got to forms. Its like when The focus on Phi everyone was like its armor is what makes him a threat (which was true) but it turns out he can still fight without to much of an issue you know why cause he knew that one day someone Would breakthrough. The only bladers that had a weakness that lost was both Arthur and Gwynn their weaknness was lethal to the point Gwynn made that armor (which Again had a fatal weakness cause their was almost no way to stop it)

(Oct. 26, 2022  6:00 PM)Phantom legend Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  4:14 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: The Lui vs Lain and the battle Royal was bad that i agree. i think the Valt vs Lain was actually ok cause the keep focusing in the barrier is Lucifer strenght once its down urs defenless but thats the thing the Legends and us just assune Lain would be defenless we never asume Lain also knew that weaknness an simply trained to cover that weakness i mean shu give Valt the weakness and lui knew it after a few blow from him but lain most likely cover that weakness prior which came up as a surprised to everyone look what happen when after Lain showed variant disaster he was Now truely defenless cause Now the know he got to forms. Its like when The focus on Phi everyone was like its armor is what makes him a threat (which was true) but it turns out he can still fight without to much of an issue you know why cause he knew that one day someone Would breakthrough. The only bladers that had a weakness that lost was both Arthur and Gwynn their weaknness was lethal to the point Gwynn made that armor (which Again had a fatal weakness cause their was almost no way to stop it)

I can agree with this to an extent. I'm not going to say Valt vs Lane was all that bad(since it was still a good battle) but it still bugs me. Like Phi with the armor is a good example but the thing about phi was that it was shown pretty early (all the way back in its debut battle against aiga) that it could battle even without the use of the armor so we had some idea of what it was capable of with and without the armor. But lane just feels a bit different ya know? Lane throughout the entire season up to that point Only depended on the barrier and there was never any indication that it could battle without the barrier or not be in the danger zone when its down. (unlike Phi which again was shown in his debut battle and other battles) One example being the battle against Aiga and Hikaru, When lucifer was destabilized and losing stamina Aiga with enough force was able to take Lucifer out, Yet in the battle with Valt: Lucifer without the barrier (defenseless) and huge loss of stamina (because the barrier depends on stamina) was going head to head with Valkyrie with zero issue and was somehow even stronger. That part just doesn't make the most sense to me especially since the round before Lane clearly looked stressed/worried when Valkyrie was directly aiming lucifer for the final clash. I completely agree that lane could have taken notice and trained to work on this weakness but the thing is we never see him train (after his lessons with shu) and we've see him quite a bit. Anytime we see lane (at least in the first half) he's usually just standing alone with harry or mocking and threatening other bladers. we dont see him trying to improve or anything hes usually just there watching and silently judging. But again this is my opinion no arguing here this is just my outlook on lane.

(Oct. 26, 2022  6:00 PM)Phantom legend Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  4:14 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: The Lui vs Lain and the battle Royal was bad that i agree. i think the Valt vs Lain was actually ok cause the keep focusing in the barrier is Lucifer strenght once its down urs defenless but thats the thing the Legends and us just assune Lain would be defenless we never asume Lain also knew that weaknness an simply trained to cover that weakness i mean shu give Valt the weakness and lui knew it after a few blow from him but lain most likely cover that weakness prior which came up as a surprised to everyone look what happen when after Lain showed variant disaster he was Now truely defenless cause Now the know he got to forms. Its like when The focus on Phi everyone was like its armor is what makes him a threat (which was true) but it turns out he can still fight without to much of an issue you know why cause he knew that one day someone Would breakthrough. The only bladers that had a weakness that lost was both Arthur and Gwynn their weaknness was lethal to the point Gwynn made that armor (which Again had a fatal weakness cause their was almost no way to stop it)

I can agree with this to an extent. I'm not going to say Valt vs Lane was all that bad(since it was still a good battle) but it still bugs me. Like Phi with the armor is a good example but the thing about phi was that it was shown pretty early (all the way back in its debut battle against aiga) that it could battle even without the use of the armor so we had some idea of what it was capable of with and without the armor. But lane just feels a bit different ya know? Lane throughout the entire season up to that point Only depended on the barrier and there was never any indication that it could battle without the barrier or not be in the danger zone when its down. (unlike Phi which again was shown in his debut battle and other battles) One example being the battle against Aiga and Hikaru, When lucifer was destabilized and losing stamina Aiga with enough force was able to take Lucifer out, Yet in the battle with Valt: Lucifer without the barrier (defenseless) and huge loss of stamina (because the barrier depends on stamina) was going head to head with Valkyrie with zero issue and was somehow even stronger. That part just doesn't make the most sense to me especially since the round before Lane clearly looked stressed/worried when Valkyrie was directly aiming lucifer for the final clash. I completely agree that lane could have taken notice and trained to work on this weakness but the thing is we never see him train (after his lessons with shu) and we've see him quite a bit. Anytime we see lane (at least in the first half) he's usually just standing alone with harry or mocking and threatening other bladers. we dont see him trying to improve or anything hes usually just there watching and silently judging. But again this is my opinion no arguing here this is just my outlook on lane.

(Oct. 26, 2022  6:27 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  6:00 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: I can agree with this to an extent. I'm not going to say Valt vs Lane was all that bad(since it was still a good battle) but it still bugs me. Like Phi with the armor is a good example but the thing about phi was that it was shown pretty early (all the way back in its debut battle against aiga) that it could battle even without the use of the armor so we had some idea of what it was capable of with and without the armor. But lane just feels a bit different ya know? Lane throughout the entire season up to that point Only depended on the barrier and there was never any indication that it could battle without the barrier or not be in the danger zone when its down. (unlike Phi which again was shown in his debut battle and other battles) One example being the battle against Aiga and Hikaru, When lucifer was destabilized and losing stamina Aiga with enough force was able to take Lucifer out, Yet in the battle with Valt: Lucifer without the barrier (defenseless) and huge loss of stamina (because the barrier depends on stamina) was going head to head with Valkyrie with zero issue and was somehow even stronger. That part just doesn't make the most sense to me especially since the round before Lane clearly looked stressed/worried when Valkyrie was directly aiming lucifer for the final clash. I completely agree that lane could have taken notice and trained to work on this weakness but the thing is we never see him train (after his lessons with shu) and we've see him quite a bit. Anytime we see lane (at least in the first half) he's usually just standing alone with harry or mocking and threatening other bladers. we dont see him trying to improve or anything hes usually just there watching and silently judging. But again this is my opinion no arguing here this is just my outlook on lane.

I do agree with the out of nowhere variant disaster though, cause I do had an issue of not forshasowing it I knew it was most likely going to happen because the keept saying it over and over again plus an real life the barrier can be removed which made think I wouldnt be surprised if the pull this off an the anime as well, since lain was over relying on that barrier. Theu difently couldve and should've prepare it better. By the way im not arguing i got zero issue with your take on lain, (i shouldnt have an issue), im just making a constructive conversation without any heat battle we all Friend here so its no biggy

(Oct. 26, 2022  6:55 PM)Phantom legend Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  6:27 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: I do agree with the out of nowhere variant disaster though, cause I do had an issue of not forshasowing it I knew it was most likely going to happen because the keept saying it over and over again plus an real life the barrier can be removed which made think I wouldnt be surprised if the pull this off an the anime as well, since lain was over relying on that barrier. Theu difently couldve and should've prepare it better. By the way im not arguing i got zero issue with your take on lain, (i shouldnt have an issue), im just making a constructive conversation without any heat battle we all Friend here so its no biggy

 sorry if i came off to strong when i said that. I know you weren’t arguing. I was just saying that i wasn't arguing and was simply giving my outlook/opinion on lane. I completely respect your opinion on lane and have zero issues. I do agree i feel like they could have prepared it a bit more to make the win feel more earned though.

(Oct. 26, 2022  7:53 PM)awesome24 Wrote: I've been interested in making combos based on various anime and fictional characters, anyone have ideas? (like Goku, superman, thanos. etc)

(Nov. 05, 2022  12:48 AM)Phantom legend Wrote: There's a cool detail I noticed about Ultimate Valkyrie. Everytime it used Ultimate Slash V the wings would grow brighter over time as Valt uses more power. Like in the first battle with Shu the power was very contained until the clash where it grew bigger.

(Nov. 05, 2022  4:53 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Nov. 05, 2022  12:48 AM)Phantom legend Wrote: There's a cool detail I noticed about Ultimate Valkyrie. Everytime it used Ultimate Slash V the wings would grow brighter over time as Valt uses more power. Like in the first battle with Shu the power was very contained until the clash where it grew bigger.

In later episodes the blades were at full length as soon as Valt called for the move, I'm thinking (this is purely head canon) that perhaps the difference in power output was a result of Valt and Ultimate's growing strength.

(Oct. 26, 2022  9:07 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  7:53 PM)awesome24 Wrote: I've been interested in making combos based on various anime and fictional characters, anyone have ideas? (like Goku, superman, thanos. etc)

Do Thanos with Red Eye. Or Goku and Lain.

(Dec. 01, 2022  8:27 PM)Cath Wrote: https://youtu.be/xjFQsmXbed0
AIN'T NO FREAKING WAY BRUH LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I knew they wouldn't end off beyblade burst with that stupid ending. And it's finally here. BEYBLADE. BURST. QUADSTRIKE. This forum ain't dying anytime soon 😤

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Real talk now: 1. From the trailer, it looked like they're animating hasbro beyblades like in the beyblade burst game.

2. Were you disappointed in Ilya after what they've done to the only "strong female blader"? Say no more, now you got a real steong female blader and yk she's strong because she's the antagonist (although spoiler alert: Bell will defeat her towards the end). How cool is that??

3. Bell's back ofc because yk divine Belial.. beyblade of mc of QUADSTRIKE.  But I'M SUPER GLAD TO SEE VALT! I MISSED HIM SO MUCH AND I'M PRETTY SURE Y'ALL DID TOO!

4. If the animation follows the toyline, then we'll most definitely see all the protagonists back in action but unfortunately there won't be any Lui or Free. We're also gonna see Lane and Shu the iconic duo (aside from valt and Shu) towards the end.

5. There probably won't be any dub version but that's fine. I'm pretty sure we all just want new episodes of beyblade burst.

6. This is the last last season of Burst. So let us enjoy every bit of it towards the end.

7. And I'm back ✌️