(Jan. 05, 2009  5:06 PM)FFX Wrote: I would be shocked if the bible was rewritten after the 7th century. =/ (although i am starting to believe you guys more than I believe my own faith that they wouldn't do that)

At least I hope so. I guess I have too much faith. I mean I would think that the bibles could have translation errors, or even maybe other things that dealt with the people that made them, but if portions were significantly altered...=/

I mean it wouldn't make sense why would they change it if there is still so much that doesn't make sense at this point.. ahhh my brain hurts.

I think you've just blown my mind I don't want to think about this anymore.

(Jan. 05, 2009  4:24 PM)FFX Wrote: Hey hey time out the bible is never rewritten. I mean the last update to the bible was what, the new testament? Why would the bible mention a later prophet when they think that Jesus is divine (debated but carp if i'm gonna get into the 50aueuwyr3owaryosue billion sects of Christianity right now) when Christianity and the Bible is about how to live under Jesus' teachings?

There is absolutely no reason for them to mention the Islamic prophet, nor do they believe in him. This is different for the Qu'ran, which says that Jesus is a prophet but Muhammad is his greatest prophet and there is no god but Allah.

Look, how can the bible even mention it when
A: It's not written during any time that Muhammad exists.
B: It's all about Jesus
C: The Qu'ran has not be updated since it was revealed to Muhammad by the (arch)angel Gabriel and has not included anything past what was told to Muhammad.

Of course if it makes you feel better Taḥrīf may have occured in the texts. So. Perhaps it was mentioned but they removed it for fear that it would undermine their religion. That's about all I can give you.

(Jan. 05, 2009  2:42 PM)Artie Wrote:

(Jan. 05, 2009  2:23 PM)pegasis Wrote: i feel offended!
ur like sayig quran isnt real
no JJ everyone has his own believes
thanks anyway.

are you serious?

first up, how about we use a little a logic? why would the christian holy book validate the islamic prophet? does that make any sense, at all? they would be discrediting everything christians believe as jesus as the son of god etc. etc.

you really need to learn how to look at the big picture and stop taking stuff personally. this is like the third time where you've done this dude

(Jan. 05, 2009  5:29 PM)pegasis Wrote:

(Jan. 05, 2009  4:24 PM)FFX Wrote: Hey hey time out the bible is never rewritten. I mean the last update to the bible was what, the new testament? Why would the bible mention a later prophet when they think that Jesus is divine (debated but carp if i'm gonna get into the 50aueuwyr3owaryosue billion sects of Christianity right now) when Christianity and the Bible is about how to live under Jesus' teachings?

There is absolutely no reason for them to mention the Islamic prophet, nor do they believe in him. This is different for the Qu'ran, which says that Jesus is a prophet but Muhammad is his greatest prophet and there is no god but Allah.

Look, how can the bible even mention it when
A: It's not written during any time that Muhammad exists.
B: It's all about Jesus
C: The Qu'ran has not be updated since it was revealed to Muhammad by the (arch)angel Gabriel and has not included anything past what was told to Muhammad.

Of course if it makes you feel better Taḥrīf may have occured in the texts. So. Perhaps it was mentioned but they removed it for fear that it would undermine their religion. That's about all I can give you.

wow! am surprized u know that much about islam,but ur wrong brother.A:i know it wasnt,when [b]jesus was living he said that a prophet will come after him and his name is ahmed.[b]
B:i havent read it but am sure its not!
C:right!
we believe in jesus,and all oher prophets!but as prophets not as god,and all of them r in heaven.god sent more than one prophet cuz the time changes and people change,before mohammed came christian was the right religion,and before jesus came,jew was the right religion,and so on,and the last prophet sent by god was mohammed,and after him the right religion is islam.bible and quran and tawrah...are all from the same god.thats wut our prophet tought us!

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(Jan. 05, 2009  2:42 PM)Artie Wrote:

(Jan. 05, 2009  2:23 PM)pegasis Wrote: i feel offended!
ur like sayig quran isnt real
no JJ everyone has his own believes
thanks anyway.

are you serious?

first up, how about we use a little a logic? why would the christian holy book validate the islamic prophet? does that make any sense, at all? they would be discrediting everything christians believe as jesus as the son of god etc. etc.

you really need to learn how to look at the big picture and stop taking stuff personally. this is like the third time where you've done this dude

i said i was JJ!
and about logic,the christian book is from god,and islam and quran is also from god,god sent different prophets and they are all right,but each one in his own time,and the last one is mohammed and his time is from the time he came untill the last day cuz he is the last prophet.and jesus told that the prophet that is comming after him is called mohammed,so when he come the people that where in his religion go and be with him!
wut not logicalabout this?

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our quran wont be changed untill the last day cuz its saved by god
and ull see!

(Jan. 05, 2009  5:27 PM)Synesthesia Wrote: FFX could you please avoid making such absurdly moronic posts.

(Jan. 05, 2009  5:29 PM)pegasis Wrote:

(Jan. 05, 2009  4:24 PM)FFX Wrote: Hey hey time out the bible is never rewritten. I mean the last update to the bible was what, the new testament? Why would the bible mention a later prophet when they think that Jesus is divine (debated but carp if i'm gonna get into the 50aueuwyr3owaryosue billion sects of Christianity right now) when Christianity and the Bible is about how to live under Jesus' teachings?

There is absolutely no reason for them to mention the Islamic prophet, nor do they believe in him. This is different for the Qu'ran, which says that Jesus is a prophet but Muhammad is his greatest prophet and there is no god but Allah.

Look, how can the bible even mention it when
A: It's not written during any time that Muhammad exists.
B: It's all about Jesus
C: The Qu'ran has not be updated since it was revealed to Muhammad by the (arch)angel Gabriel and has not included anything past what was told to Muhammad.

Of course if it makes you feel better Taḥrīf may have occured in the texts. So. Perhaps it was mentioned but they removed it for fear that it would undermine their religion. That's about all I can give you.

wow! am surprized u know that much about islam,but ur wrong brother.A:i know it wasnt,when jesus was living he said that a prophet will come after him and his name is ahmed.
B:i havent read it but am sure its not!
C:right!
we believe in jesus,and all oher prophets!but as prophets not as god,and all of them r in heaven.god sent more than one prophet cuz the time changes and people change,before mohammed came christian was the right religion,and before jesus came,jew was the right religion,and so on,and the last prophet sent by god was mohammed,and after him the right religion is islam.bible and quran and tawrah...are all from the same god.thats wut our prophet tought us!

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(Jan. 05, 2009  5:53 PM)Artie Wrote:

(Jan. 05, 2009  5:53 PM)Artie Wrote:

(Jan. 05, 2009  2:42 PM)Artie Wrote:

(Jan. 05, 2009  2:23 PM)pegasis Wrote: i feel offended!
ur like sayig quran isnt real
no JJ everyone has his own believes
thanks anyway.

are you serious?

first up, how about we use a little a logic? why would the christian holy book validate the islamic prophet? does that make any sense, at all? they would be discrediting everything christians believe as jesus as the son of god etc. etc.

you really need to learn how to look at the big picture and stop taking stuff personally. this is like the third time where you've done this dude

i said i was JJ!
and about logic,the christian book is from god,and islam and quran is also from god,god sent different prophets and they are all right,but each one in his own time,and the last one is mohammed and his time is from the time he came untill the last day cuz he is the last prophet.and jesus told that the prophet that is comming after him is called mohammed,so when he come the people that where in his religion go and be with him!
wut not logicalabout this?

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our quran wont be changed untill the last day cuz its saved by god
and ull see!

Jesus never said that according to the Bible (read: the Christian faith). Ergo, they do not believe that. Why is it so hard for you to differentiate between your religion and others? :\ And neither Christianity nor Judaism was the "right" religion of the time. Have you even studied the history of any of these religions?

Anyway, be careful of juxtaposing your beliefs into what Jesus said according to Christians. In Islam, that very well be the belief but that does not mean it is right (and neither is the Christian one by that logic). Coming from an atheist, I don't care either way but still. Be careful assuming you're belief is the correct one; none of us truly know what happens and therefore it's one giant crapshoot.

(Jan. 05, 2009  6:16 PM)Ominous Wrote: FFX, just stop.

You are encouraged by your faith to seek the truth, but you are clearly uninformed about even the basics. All you are doing is making a mockery of yourself and what you claim to believe.

(Jan. 05, 2009  7:32 PM)Roan Wrote: Move along people, this causes nothing but drama.

(Jan. 05, 2009  8:27 PM)pegasis Wrote: i was going to reply but since u guys dont want us to talk about this then i will stop.
i liked the religion topic cuz i learned alot about ur religion