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RE: Best Out of the Box? - TimeOut - Sep. 05, 2013
At least someone else agrees with me, so many other people are bearing core obsessed...
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Kai Hiwatari - Sep. 05, 2013
I like DEMS over Wolborg MS as well, as I typically was able to beat Wolborg MS with DEMS no problem for the most part.
Jiraiya MS would be good for fifth I believe, I have one as well and from what I recall, it performed pretty well against other HMS uncustomized.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - TimeOut - Sep. 06, 2013
Finalized list for HMS?
HMS
1. DEMS/DGMS (Dark Effigy/Dark Gargoyle MS)
2. Wolborg MS
3. Advance Striker
4. Advance Averazer
5. Jiraiya MS
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Ga' - Sep. 06, 2013
Yes. I agree with that list.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - TimeOut - Sep. 08, 2013
So how about those tests I mentioned on the previous page?
RE: Best Out of the Box? - 6 God - Sep. 08, 2013
Blitz Lynx tr145 R2F, from the Great Ring of Destruction 2-pack. Does it have a spot on the list for attack?
RE: Best Out of the Box? - ShinobuXD - Sep. 08, 2013
Well the Blitz is hollow IIRC, and Lynx is bad for Blitz, not to mention Blitz should be low, so unfortunately, I don't think so.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Infinity Lazer - Sep. 08, 2013
ok so what do the rest of you think about Duo Uranus that I mentioned from the last page and wing pegasis too I think they both have a spot on the list and if you want me to explain why then tell me and tell me if you think they have a shot at the list and maybe you could do some tests
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Infie - Sep. 08, 2013
I personally think Basalt Horogium 145WD is the best overall out-of-the-box bey. It has a basic, yet decent stamina track-tip combo and Basalt is still heavy when compared to 4D.
When comparing to Zero-G, I don't think there's any uncustomized synchrome that will out-spin this. And with the weakness of stamina-types being attack, I don't think there are any uncustomized attack types that can consistently knock out Basalt Horogium either.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Snoop Dog MS - Sep. 08, 2013
Say hello to Cosmic Pegasus W105R2F.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - lovesick - Sep. 08, 2013
I can pretty much ko it with even big bang lol
Btw, ive got a recommendation. Libra 90WD. It's a decent stamina type.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - TimeOut - Sep. 13, 2013
Let's finish up plastics here guys, from my own testing dranzer v2 looks like it should have the final spot, any objections?
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Snoop Dog MS - Sep. 13, 2013
May I suggest a HMS TTOOTB? Sea Dragon. From my testing(official) it crushed DEMS, but I'm not sure if it can beat Wolborg MS though. If it can beat DEMS, it can beat Advance Averazer and Striker, and it might be able to outspin Jiraiya, so...
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Ga' - Sep. 14, 2013
Erm exactly how experienced are you with attack types? I've had no problem beating an uncustomized Sea Dragon with DEMS in the past.
I would agree that it's an awesome beyblade, but it can be beaten by DEMS, Wolborg and Jiraiya (though this one is a toughy, Jiraiya additionally takes the top spot because it does better against a larger portion of HMS). I'd say it's a very close 6th if anything, but I wouldn't think past that.
Also Averazer's up there for spin-stealing, not for attack. The Advance Balancer AR, though I haven't tried it on a Metal Semi-Flat because I only have that one part, can effectively defeat Sea Dragon. This isn't necessarily representative due to differing parts but that test holds some merit.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Snoop Dog MS - Sep. 14, 2013
I am very experienced with Attack types, and I mean very. Sea Dragon got KO'd alot but it got a few KOs because of somehow DEMS "pushed" back and self KO'd. I can make a video.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Ga' - Sep. 14, 2013
That's because Seagon Attacker is an OHKO AR, so it's smashing back. It's probably the best in HMS, but OHKO isn't incredibly viable to begin with.
Which spin directions were used? If they are in opposite spin directions, Upper Attack would be less effective for obvious reasons. In left vs. left, it's smash v. smash so there's bound to be a few KOs on either side and in right v. right DEMS dominates hands down.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Kai Hiwatari - Sep. 14, 2013
While Sea Dragon is nice, I don't believe that it can consistently beat the previously mentioned for the Top 5.
In my experience, DEMS typically had no problem beating Sea Dragon either. Granted it has been awhile, but still, I do recall doing a lot of uncustomized testing with my HMS and typically DEMS and Wolborg were the two that would beat anything and everything.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - TimeOut - Sep. 14, 2013
I third what the other ga hooleane and kai have said. Sea Dragon is nothing compared to DEMS, in my experience its rare for it to even outspin it.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Snoop Dog MS - Sep. 14, 2013
I can make a video of it for proof...
RE: Best Out of the Box? - TimeOut - Sep. 15, 2013
What about lightning l-drago for MFB, a once domineering attack wheel on a height decent for attack on an attack-oriented albeit poor attack tip
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Infinity Lazer - Sep. 15, 2013
nah I don't think a stock LLD could ko anything like Basalt Befall it could maybe ko Phantom Orion but it wouldn't even touch Duo (I think it should be a bootb I explained why on the last page or last two pages) since it wouldn't reach the mw plus HF is flat out terrible and ruins the whole thing
RE: Best Out of the Box? - OwnageDerp - Sep. 15, 2013
Deleted... I misread the thread rules.
RE: Best Out of the Box? - Infinity Lazer - Sep. 15, 2013
It's supposed to be how good it does stock not the parts it comes with
RE: Best Out of the Box? - TimeOut - Sep. 15, 2013
Lazer, I don't mean to be rude, but try to leave this up to people who at least have some idea what they are talking about, hf is bad compared to rf/r2f/lrf, but it is still an attack tip on an attack wheel
RE: Best Out of the Box? - lovesick - Sep. 15, 2013
SEriously, duo 230wd is easy to destabilize. I could ko that with ldg df105lrf.
How about libra/burn cancer 90wd? They were good LTSCs of their time.