• B-33 Standard Type Beystadium 
  
• Beylauncher (with Beylogger as grip) 
  
• Beylauncher L (for easy weak-launches for aB) 
  

(Dec. 27, 2017  5:10 AM)dt1000 Wrote: Can you do Screw Trident Yell Atomic vs Drain Fafnir 7Glaive Orbit?

(Dec. 27, 2017  5:14 AM)Dragunix Wrote:

(Dec. 27, 2017  5:10 AM)dt1000 Wrote: Can you do Screw Trident Yell Atomic vs Drain Fafnir 7Glaive Orbit?

I'd recommend changing yell...lets at least test competitive combos here for the layer to see how well it can hold up...

(Dec. 27, 2017  2:18 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Dec. 27, 2017  5:14 AM)Dragunix Wrote: I'd recommend changing yell...lets at least test competitive combos here for the layer to see how well it can hold up...

Yell is for burst resistance.

(Dec. 27, 2017  8:12 AM)BurstMaster Wrote: lS 4 Extreme (left spin)

(Dec. 27, 2017  4:18 PM)Dragunix Wrote:

(Dec. 27, 2017  8:12 AM)BurstMaster Wrote: lS 4 Extreme (left spin)

against what?

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guys, please try looking at competitive combos before posting combo suggestions...or at least get an idea of which would be competitive...

(Dec. 27, 2017  4:56 AM)AwDragunix Wrote: As the title states, this thread is all about testing the "absorber" layer, Screw Trident. I really doubted the usefulness of this layer, so I decided to test against several meta combos and some more odd options...

Equipment:

• B-33 Standard Type Beystadium 
  
• Beylauncher (with Beylogger as grip) 
  
• Beylauncher L (for easy weak-launches for aB) 
  

Note: As for why I am not using Beylauncher LR, I sadly have inconsistent launches due to the smoothness of that launcher handle.

Note: As for why I am not using Beylauncher LR, I sadly have inconsistent launches due to the smoothness of that launcher handle.

Tested Layer: Screw Trident

Point Counter: 1 point for burst, survivor, and over finishes.

First up was Screw Trident 7G. O vs dF. 7. Br (A Mould for both):

Spoiler (Click to View)

sT. 7G. O (hard launch): 2/10

dF. 7. Br: 5/10

3 Tie

Win rate: 20%

Not sure what happened when sT insta-bursted dF once...sT's protrusions lower burst resistance, but on Orbit it seems to keep up in terms of stamina with dF...some matches were very close. Bearing's LAD helped dF. It seems that sT's gimmick may reduce impact force when hit at a face-on angle. Additionally, sT had greater burst resistance in this setup than expected, although it did lose 3 clicks on a couple of occassions. Tbh, dF mainly won through Spin Finishes, although sT did burst a couple of times.

sT. 7G. O (soft launch): 2/10

dF. 7. Br: 6/10

2 Tie

Win rate: 20%

In terms of stamina, this battle seemed a bit further in gap. dF actually got more rotations after soft launching sT, and even stayed upright on Br, which is ridiculously mocking...When sT won, it was due to it being able to get under dF and destabilize it...

All in all, dF seems to be a reliable counter, as other layers definitely will be...

Screw Trident 7 Glaive Atomic then faced Nightmare Longinus Bump Destroy:

Spoiler (Click to View)

sT. 7G. At (hard launch): 3/10

nL. B. Ds: 6/10

1 Tie

Win rate: 30%

As a nice surprise, sT had better chances, most likely due to nL being a worse equalizer than dF. However, sT still faced greater burst risk due to harder launches against nL's soft launched status. nL even insta-bursted the tangerine bey. If sT made early contact, it had far greater chances to be KOed---or worse---bursted.

sT. 7G. At (soft launch): 8/10

nL. B. Ds: /10

2 Tie

Win rate: 80%

Unlike dF, Destroy's lesser precession and nL's lesser equalization properties gave sT a HUGE advantage in terms of outspinning its opponent, and it was very clear this time around.

Alter Chronos (A Mould)(balanced) 7 Orbit/Atomic was the next to battle Screw Trident (A Mould) 7 Glaive Orbit:

Spoiler (Click to View)

aC:

sT:

If you have any combos for sT or any custom combos of other beys you want to suggest, please present them and I'll try testing it...here is a list of parts...

Spoiler (Click to View)

Layers:

Acid Anubis (x2)

Ark Bahamut

Alter Chronos

Amaterios (off limits to preserve)

Deep Chaos

Drain Fafnir(x2)

Galaxy Zeus

Guardian Kerbeus

Inferno Ifrit

Killer Deathscyther

Legend Spriggan

Lost Longinus

Mad Minoboros

Maximum Garuda

Nightmare Longinus

Screw Trident

Sieg Xcalibur

Spriggan

Tornado Wyvern (x2)

Valtryek V2 (Hasbro)

Xcalius (Hasbro)

Discs:

Boost

Force

Heavy

Nine

Quarter

Spread

1 (x2)

2

4 (x3)

6

7 (x3)

8

Frames:

Bump

Flow

Glaive

Meteo/Meteor (x3)

Star

Drivers:

Atomic (x2, but only x1 due to one being used for aB)

Bearing

Destroy

Fusion

Iron

Merge

Nothing

Orbit

Planet

Quake

Spiral (x2)

Trans

Xtreme

Variable (Hasbro)

Xtreme (Hasbro)

contact me if needed

(Dec. 27, 2017  6:18 PM)BurstMaster Wrote:

(Dec. 27, 2017  4:18 PM)Dragunix Wrote: against what?

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guys, please try looking at competitive combos before posting combo suggestions...or at least get an idea of which would be competitive...

Sorry, sT 7G O

(Dec. 27, 2017  6:31 PM)Rahil singh Wrote:

(Dec. 27, 2017  4:56 AM)AwDragunix Wrote: As the title states, this thread is all about testing the "absorber" layer, Screw Trident. I really doubted the usefulness of this layer, so I decided to test against several meta combos and some more odd options...

Equipment:

• B-33 Standard Type Beystadium 
  
• Beylauncher (with Beylogger as grip) 
  
• Beylauncher L (for easy weak-launches for aB) 
  

Note: As for why I am not using Beylauncher LR, I sadly have inconsistent launches due to the smoothness of that launcher handle.

Note: As for why I am not using Beylauncher LR, I sadly have inconsistent launches due to the smoothness of that launcher handle.

Tested Layer: Screw Trident

Point Counter: 1 point for burst, survivor, and over finishes.

First up was Screw Trident 7G. O vs dF. 7. Br (A Mould for both):

Spoiler (Click to View)

sT. 7G. O (hard launch): 2/10

dF. 7. Br: 5/10

3 Tie

Win rate: 20%

Not sure what happened when sT insta-bursted dF once...sT's protrusions lower burst resistance, but on Orbit it seems to keep up in terms of stamina with dF...some matches were very close. Bearing's LAD helped dF. It seems that sT's gimmick may reduce impact force when hit at a face-on angle. Additionally, sT had greater burst resistance in this setup than expected, although it did lose 3 clicks on a couple of occassions. Tbh, dF mainly won through Spin Finishes, although sT did burst a couple of times.

sT. 7G. O (soft launch): 2/10

dF. 7. Br: 6/10

2 Tie

Win rate: 20%

In terms of stamina, this battle seemed a bit further in gap. dF actually got more rotations after soft launching sT, and even stayed upright on Br, which is ridiculously mocking...When sT won, it was due to it being able to get under dF and destabilize it...

All in all, dF seems to be a reliable counter, as other layers definitely will be...

Screw Trident 7 Glaive Atomic then faced Nightmare Longinus Bump Destroy:

Spoiler (Click to View)

sT. 7G. At (hard launch): 3/10

nL. B. Ds: 6/10

1 Tie

Win rate: 30%

As a nice surprise, sT had better chances, most likely due to nL being a worse equalizer than dF. However, sT still faced greater burst risk due to harder launches against nL's soft launched status. nL even insta-bursted the tangerine bey. If sT made early contact, it had far greater chances to be KOed---or worse---bursted.

sT. 7G. At (soft launch): 8/10

nL. B. Ds: /10

2 Tie

Win rate: 80%

Unlike dF, Destroy's lesser precession and nL's lesser equalization properties gave sT a HUGE advantage in terms of outspinning its opponent, and it was very clear this time around.

Alter Chronos (A Mould)(balanced) 7 Orbit/Atomic was the next to battle Screw Trident (A Mould) 7 Glaive Orbit:

Spoiler (Click to View)

aC:

sT:

If you have any combos for sT or any custom combos of other beys you want to suggest, please present them and I'll try testing it...here is a list of parts...

Spoiler (Click to View)

Layers:

Acid Anubis (x2)

Ark Bahamut

Alter Chronos

Amaterios (off limits to preserve)

Deep Chaos

Drain Fafnir(x2)

Galaxy Zeus

Guardian Kerbeus

Inferno Ifrit

Killer Deathscyther

Legend Spriggan

Lost Longinus

Mad Minoboros

Maximum Garuda

Nightmare Longinus

Screw Trident

Sieg Xcalibur

Spriggan

Tornado Wyvern (x2)

Valtryek V2 (Hasbro)

Xcalius (Hasbro)

Discs:

Boost

Force

Heavy

Nine

Quarter

Spread

1 (x2)

2

4 (x3)

6

7 (x3)

8

Frames:

Bump

Flow

Glaive

Meteo/Meteor (x3)

Star

Drivers:

Atomic (x2, but only x1 due to one being used for aB)

Bearing

Destroy

Fusion

Iron

Merge

Nothing

Orbit

Planet

Quake

Spiral (x2)

Trans

Xtreme

Variable (Hasbro)

Xtreme (Hasbro)

contact me if needed

Try screw trident jerk atomic

(Dec. 27, 2017  7:52 PM)Dragunix Wrote:

(Dec. 27, 2017  6:18 PM)BurstMaster Wrote: Sorry, sT 7G O

Is it okay to do lS 7B X right spin against the suggested combo?

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(Dec. 27, 2017  6:31 PM)Rahil singh Wrote: Try screw trident jerk atomic

Please look at the list of parts first before asking.

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And Jerk would be a outclassed choice

(Dec. 27, 2017  2:25 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote:

(Dec. 27, 2017  2:18 PM)dt1000 Wrote: Yell is for burst resistance.

7Glaive dosen't exactly make a condo easier to burst, it's only use is facing opposite spin, and even then it's outclassed.

(Dec. 28, 2017  12:55 AM)Dragunix Wrote: but yell is outclassed. I'm serious...7G does far better for me when I use dF...

(Dec. 28, 2017  2:40 AM)Dragunix Wrote: Either way, 7G does better. Nobody uses a light, IWD disc.

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Ok, so why Yell? 7G has more advantages...more stamina, frame support, just to name a few...

(Dec. 28, 2017  4:11 AM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2017  2:40 AM)Dragunix Wrote: Either way, 7G does better. Nobody uses a light, IWD disc.

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Ok, so why Yell? 7G has more advantages...more stamina, frame support, just to name a few...

Yell has okay LAD and heightened burst resistance.

(Jan. 20, 2018  8:13 AM)Bananareaper Wrote: Does anyone know what the layer is made of?