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Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 12, 2013
Hello Everyone,It's My first time sharing a combo so Pardon Me if'm wrong
This Combo Is a very great combo.It can Outspin Defense and KO stamina types.It seems to be unable to withstand attacks(Only help is from Wyvang and Killerken's heavy weight)
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VS MF-L Duo Uranus 160PD
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MSF-F Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF vs. MF-L Phantom Gasher W145WD
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MSF-F Wyvang Killerken SA165BSF vs. MF-L Phantom Gasher W145WD
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Weakness:
Dragooon
Duo 230MB
Test :Wyvang 3 Wins (2 KO 1 OS)
Duo 7 wins (All OS)
Test Upcoming for this:
VS Reviser Dragooon B
FINISHED Deep thanks for ZancrowVS Phantom Cancer 90MF FINISHED
VS Flash Orion GB145RF
VS Diablo Nemesis BD145RF
VS Duo Cancer 230MB
I'll Be doing Two each day.Any request anyone.And please vote on the poll it helps me a lot to improve.Thanks for your time reading this.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Infie - Jun. 12, 2013
Interesting to see LW160 in a right-spin custom.
Please test against Duo/Phantom Cygnus W145WD, since this stamina set-up is likely to be more common than 160PD.
Would be interested to contribute some tests, but I don't have Wyvang or Duo...
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Janstarblast - Jun. 12, 2013
First up, you need at least 20 tests.
Secondly, I still don't see why you said this- "I Choose Wyvang because Wyvang has very good attack.Which support its attack power.It also have recoil that might save you in the midst of battle.You'll see what i mean".
Combining a Stamina wheel with a somewhat Attack-oriented wheel (no doubt, Wyvang is versatile, but well...) is always a tough job...
I still don't see how this combo performs, exactly. :\
Ingulit recently pointed out (in the Random Thoughts thread) that BSF has LAD-like qualities. Is that helping you here?
Being unable to take a hit is justified. SF variants would probably have problems with that. I have never seen a Wyvang yet, but if it does have the recoil you mention, BSF wouldn't be able to cope with it. Of course, Synchroms are heavy, and would hence compensate for the recoil suffered, but here- the Attack wouldn't be solid enough to knock out a bulkier Stamina type. Test against a better Stamina type. From what I know, PD usually KOs too easily.
Also, Benchmark Tests please!
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - [)ragon - Jun. 12, 2013
This could actually be pretty interesting... My friend tried something like this before, I mean an attack synchrome on BSF, and it actually did outstanding. I would like to see this thing tested on SA165.
Nice work!
I can tell this would lose really badly to attack/any Dragooon with at least mediocre defense, though.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - 6 God - Jun. 12, 2013
TESTS:
Duo Gasher sr200 tb vs. Wyvang Killerken sa165(normal) bsf
Duo Gasher Wins: 12/ all OS
Wyvang Killerken Wins: 8/ all KO
Reviser Reviser bd145 rsf vs. Wyvang Killerken sa165(normal) bsf
Reviser Reviser Wins: 3/ 2OS 1KO
Wyvang Killerken Wins: 17/ 16OS 1KO
I think sa165 would do better on this combo, it holds all the same functions but does it better.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Ingulit - Jun. 13, 2013
(Jun. 12, 2013 7:44 PM)Kyler_the best Wrote: TESTS:
Duo Gasher sr200 tb vs. Wyvang Killerken sa165(normal) bsf
Duo Gasher Wins: 12/ all OS
Wyvang Killerken Wins: 8/ all KO
Reviser Reviser bd145 rsf vs. Wyvang Killerken sa165(normal) bsf
Reviser Reviser Wins: 3/ 2OS 1KO
Wyvang Killerken Wins: 17/ 16OS 1KO
I think sa165 would do better on this combo, it holds all the same functions but does it better.
Losing to a stamina custom does not constitute "better" in my book
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - 6 God - Jun. 13, 2013
Solo Spin Time:
Killerken Wyvang sa165 bsf: 1:53
Killerken Wyvang lw160 bsf: 1:39
I think a solo spin time record would imply it doing better.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 13, 2013
I'll try to do Wyvang Killerken Vs MF-L Phantom Orion AD145WD (I have no W145).Will it do alright ?
And Please try it on SA165 since i don't have it.Maybe in defense mode?
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Ocean - Jun. 13, 2013
Try not to use a metal face unless it's MF-F
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 13, 2013
Test Result :VS MF-L Phantom Cancer AD145WD.Why not MF-L ? I liked it because IMO it's the best MF for stamina.
Wyvang : 17 Wins (15 KO 2 OS)
Phantom : 3 WIns (2 OS 1 KO)
You're Right Janstarblast it has more trouble KO'ing .The KO isn't as consistent as when it fought against Duo.
Phantom 90MF test coming soon(around two hours from now)
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Ultra - Jun. 13, 2013
Woah man. I can tell everyone right now that there is like an 80% chance this is top tier. I'll have some tests by the end of the day man. Awesome find dude.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 13, 2013
Really? i hope you're not joking cause this combo is made easily without strong concept (because my brain is not strong enough)And i want to ask what should i benchmark this with ?
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Ultra - Jun. 13, 2013
I'm serious and i'm getting ready to test this right now. I'll have at least 30 tests for you by the end of the day. Don't put yourself down man. This is amazing man. You don't have to be a genius to to stumble on something top tier.
The only way anyone has ever found out what's top tier is by stumbling upon them just like you did with this combo. Give yourself some more credit man. You're just as capable as the other people who test.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 13, 2013
How could you know that it is awesome before testing it ?
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Ocean - Jun. 13, 2013
(Jun. 13, 2013 8:50 AM)Diablo-Beyz DBZ Wrote: Test Result :VS MF-L Phantom Cancer AD145WD.Why not MF-L ? I liked it because IMO it's the best MF for stamina.It give stamina types not outward weight distribution which can mess up a stamina type.
Wyvang : 17 Wins (15 KO 2 OS)
Phantom : 3 WIns (2 OS 1 KO)
You're Right Janstarblast it has more trouble KO'ing .The KO isn't as consistent as when it fought against Duo.
Phantom 90MF test coming soon(around two hours from now)
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 13, 2013
Test Against Phantom Cancer 90MF
Wyvang :10 Wins (7 KO 3 OS)
Phantom :10 wins( 6 KO,4 OS)
50%
Wyvang was able to fight toe to toe against an awesome combo. it though can't withstand Cancer's outstanding attack .But,Whenever Cancer attacks it it sometimes stop suddenly because of LW160 wings
And Thank you Ultra for testing it.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Byerg - Jun. 13, 2013
MSF-F Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF vs. MF-L Phantom Gasher W145WD
Wyvang: 17 Wins (15 KO, 2 OS)
Phantom: 3 Wins (2 KO, 1 OS)
4 Draws, All Redone
Wyvang Win Percentage: 85%
Phantom was certainly easy for Wyvang to KO, but because of the horrendous defense of BSF, Phantom could get some lucky KOs here and there. The 2 OS are from occasions where Phantom would get wall-saved, thus losing much of it's stamina from hitting the wall.
MSF-F Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF vs. MSF-H Revizer Revizer BD145RSF
Wyvang: 16 Wins (2 KO, 14 OS)
Revizer: 4 Wins (2 KO, 2 OS)
1 Draw, Redone
Wyvang Win Percentage: 80%
For obvious reasons, Wyvang could not KO this combo even nearly as well as it did the Phantom. Nevertheless, Wyvang could OS it just as easily. The OS wins by Revizer during this test came from it destabilizing BSF (which isn't hard to do, sadly for this combo), Wyvang would scrape the floor and lose all of its stamina quickly.
MSF-F Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF vs. MSF-H Revizer Dragooon B:D
Wyvang: 0 Wins (0 KO, 0 OS)
Revizer: 10 Wins (2 KO, 8 OS)
0 Draws
Wyvang Win Percentage: 0%
Not even a chance for Wyvang really. Revizer would just scrape it down until Wyvang lost balance, and Wyvang would scrape hard.
SA165 Testing
MSF-F Wyvang Killerken SA165BSF vs. MF-L Phantom Gasher W145WD
Wyvang: 18 Wins (15 KO, 3 OS)
Phantom: 2 Wins (2 KO, 0 OS)
2 Draws, Both Redone
Wyvang Win Percentage: 90%
Same results as before, basically. However, I'd like to note that it's very noticeable that Wyvang had much better LAD thanks to SA165, and the scraping that occures when BSF loses balance isn't as deadly to its performance.
MSF-F Wyvang Killerken SA165BSF vs. MSF-H Revizer Revizer BD145RSF
Wyvang: 18 Wins (3 KO, 15 OS)
Revizer: 2 Wins (2 KO, 0 OS)
1 Draw, Redone
Wyvang Win Percentage: 90%
See, above.
MSF-F Wyvang Killerken SA165BSF vs. MSF-H Revizer Dragooon B:D
Wyvang: 0 Wins (0 KO, 0 OS)
Revizer: 10 Wins (1 KO, 9 OS)
0 Draws
Wyvang Win Percentage: 0%
SA165 made no change in the destruction by Dragooon.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - zeneo - Jun. 13, 2013
Wow, Ultra looks in 'this-is-awesome-mode-today'. He complimented my post on Public Competitive MFB Combinations. AWESOME...!!!
Getting back, IIRC, LW160 provides extra stamina in right spin.
I saw Ingulit's post in the Advanced Forum deeming Phantom Cygnus LW160 PD to be top-tier stamina.
This combo does look top-tier worthy in my opinion, and like Ultra said, it's something you stumble upon, no genius needed.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 13, 2013
@Zancrow Thanks for testing it using SA165 .It also seems to be better using SA165 rather than LW160.So it's weak against dragooon.Anyways What is the mode of SA165 you're testing it with Zancrow?
OP Will be updated with Zancrow's test Once again thank you Zancrow
EDIT : Can anyone help me test this combo's defense i can't slide shoot very good (I can only handle MF not RF)
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Byerg - Jun. 13, 2013
(Jun. 13, 2013 2:38 PM)Diablo-Beyz DBZ Wrote: @Zancrow Thanks for testing it using SA165 .It also seems to be better using SA165 rather than LW160.So it's weak against dragooon.Anyways What is the mode of SA165 you're testing it with Zancrow?
OP Will be updated with Zancrow's test Once again thank you Zancrow
SA165 is in Normal Mode, and no problem man.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Uwik - Jun. 13, 2013
Just a reminder, in case you guys might have missed it; OP used a Balance Type Stadium.
(Jun. 12, 2013 2:20 PM)Diablo-Beyz DBZ Wrote: Equipment:
Beylauncher LR Mars Red ver.
3 Segment LG with Grip Rubber and Extension and Metal assist
Balance type Stadium (It's legal isn't it)
@ Diablo-Beyz DBZ: While the Balance Type Stadium is legal for official play, Attack Type Stadium is the preferred stadium for testings.
Anyway, results look quite good. We need more test contributions on the Attack Type Stadium.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 13, 2013
New Test
VS Duo cancer 230MB
Wyvang 3 Wins (2 KO 1 OS)
Duo 7 wins (All Os)
Oh well This is this combo's weakness against heighted beyblade. Since Wyvang is the main attack wheel it can't reach Duo.Quite surprised since this can smash Duo 230D no Problem.Woot the creator of this combo posted here.And yes my BB10 is wrecked Roughly.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Raigeko13 - Jun. 13, 2013
Yes, I picked up on that as well, none of these tests are in the BB-10; I won't say the tests are all completely inaccurate, but they aren't in the stadium that everyone uses.
Curious, why BSF? What makes it better than, say, MF? You noted that BSF has decent stamina and attack capabilities but MF can do what BSF does, but better, with that being said about stamina/attack hybrids. I'm sure that BSF plays a major role in the combo and what it does, and MF isn't suited for it, but it'd be great if you can explain why you chose BSF over it.
What I'm getting out of this is that Wyvang is doing all the work. Wyvang is kind of the BD145 for Zero-G, in my opinion, slap it on something, results go through the roof.
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Ingulit - Jun. 13, 2013
BSF is a lot taller and has a different attack pattern than MF, so they're kind of apples and oranges.
Why couldn't this KO Reviser Dragooon B: D?
I'll give this a shot, but I'm confused what exactly this custom is supposed to be good at :\
RE: Wyvang Killerken LW160BSF - Diablo-Beyz DBZ - Jun. 13, 2013
I Picked BSF because MF is too mainstream.Anyways i already tried LW160MF it however is stopped by Diablo BD145MB because of low defense.Thats why i picked BSF and Yeah MF is Very good so i might try to include that in the tests.
I'll Try and test it against RD
I did some informal testing and Both Wyvang Killerken LW160MF and BSF got crushed by RD and Inguilt this custom was supposed to defeat defense and stamina while retaining good defense