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Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 18, 2009
Basically a split type between Attack and Stamina types (Dubbed "Fighter type", by Bandet and i). Its theoretical, for i only have the pieces in BB-03.
Face: Sagittario (Who else?)
Clear Wheel: Storm
Metal Wheel: Attack (or Stardust, it realy doesn't matter other than cosmetically)
Track
F145Bottom: Sharp Ball
Soooooooooooo... Wadya think?
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Serotonin - Aug. 18, 2009
Erm, the Clear Wheel has the "Character" name while the Metal Wheel is the "Element".
i.e. Storm Sagittario would be Storm Metal Wheel + Sagitarrio Clear Wheel.
Ball Sharp is invariably easy to knock off balance, and combined with a Storm Wheel I doubt it would fare well.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Bey Brad - Aug. 18, 2009
Uh, Attack? Storm is the Metal Wheel ...
This seems awful.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Crimson - Aug. 18, 2009
1) the Metal Wheel is Storm, the Clear wheel would be Sagittario.
2)This isn't a very good combo at all, Storm doesn't do as well on a higher height, so it's attack ability is severely lowered.
Plus the fact that BS is a stamina type bottom, so even more so Storm's attack capabilites are lowered.
Don't try and make a Stamina and Attack dual type beyblade, it won't work. They're two different sides of the spectrum. Focus on one type, it'd be much more effective at what it does than trying to multitask.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 18, 2009
I mixed up the clear and the metal whell names, didn't i? The BS was supposed to give extra stamina, becouse its lacking just that in a "Fighter type". So is BS the only problem here? HS/R is a compromise between the two typees; would that be better?
EDIT: Didn't see crimsons post. So the whole concept of "Fighter" Is bad?
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Bey Brad - Aug. 18, 2009
(Aug. 18, 2009 11:33 PM)firelord767 Wrote: EDIT: Didn't see crimsons post. So the whole concept of "Fighter" Is bad?
It just doesn't make any sense.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 18, 2009
Its a sacrife type thing. We lose both half of stamina's power, and half of attack's abilities. What it does is basically gives an attack bey some extra stamina at the price of some offensive abilites.
PS ur thing says ur away, might wanna fix that.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Bey Brad - Aug. 18, 2009
It's intentional.
So instead of having good attack or good stamina you have bad both.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Serotonin - Aug. 18, 2009
It's that very principal which counts against the combination; it's neither here nor there which means it isn't very good at all against a specialised Beyblade.
I've heard HF/S suffers from balance issues in S mode ... But the concept could prove useful.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 18, 2009
(Aug. 18, 2009 11:42 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: It's intentional.Meodiocre Both.
So instead of having good attack or good stamina you have bad both.
Quote:I've heard HF/S suffers from balance issues in S mode ... But the concept could prove useful.
So how about HF mode?
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Bey Brad - Aug. 18, 2009
(Aug. 18, 2009 11:44 PM)firelord767 Wrote: Meodiocre Both.
oh well then, awesome
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 18, 2009
Glass half full man, glass half full.
EDIT: Isn't a balence type 33 percent all three? (and 1 percent... nothing O.o)
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Hiro Ayami - Aug. 18, 2009
The concept behind attack types is to attack strong in the first few moments of the match, most of the leading top tier attack combo's finish off their opponent on their second or third hit. The do this by being mid-weight and fast moving and being lower than their opponent, they do this with lighter tracks and high friction, high speed bottoms like: RF, WF, HF, or F, all of which have rather bad stamina applicability. However, currently there are no top tier attack types that utilize anything besides an RF bottom and even the top tier balance type which is an attack/defense type with horrid stamina utilizes RF.
Stamina are light weight and designed to take hits, by being lightweight and centered (staying in the center of the stadium) they don't have any real attack behind them. Because they aren't supposed to move around a lot they won't have any momentum behind their attacks. Even Storm 100RF and Quetz 90RF require a bit of movement to accomplish a solid smash.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Serotonin - Aug. 18, 2009
(Aug. 18, 2009 11:44 PM)firelord767 Wrote:Quote:I've heard HF/S suffers from balance issues in S mode ... But the concept could prove useful.
So how about HF mode?
What I mean is, you'd be able to change modes between rounds; it isn't a compromise of Attack and Stamina though, because it's not both simultaneously.
(Aug. 18, 2009 11:47 PM)firelord767 Wrote: Glass half full man, glass half full.
EDIT: Isn't a balence type 33 percent all three? (and 1 percent... nothing O.o)
Well, 33.3 recurring solves this ...
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 18, 2009
It still leaves us with 0.1 or 0.01 or...
i could go on forever. literally.
EDIT:
Quote:What I mean is, you'd be able to change modes between rounds; it isn't a compromise of Attack and Stamina though, because it's not both simultaneously.
Well then, that means that this bey isn't a fighter type, but with this bottom, its just a type switcher!
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Bey Brad - Aug. 19, 2009
Balance type is a combination of more than one type.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 19, 2009
2 is more than 1, right? And balence works, right? Then thew sub category for balence- "Fighter" should somehow work. I it doesn't work on Storm Sag DF145BS or Storm Sag DF145HF/S, it will somehow. And if it doesn't, i'll make it work.
Too bad the combo epically fails though.
EDIT:
Metal Wheel: Attack
Clear Wheel: Storm
Track:WD145 (Lowers attack and storm a little from the other one)
Bottom: SD (apparently the only relavent Stamina Bottom)
Another shoot at it. This should do the jod by lowering the Wheels while retaining the light weight and sharpness.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Bey Brad - Aug. 19, 2009
(Aug. 19, 2009 12:35 AM)firelord767 Wrote: 2 is more than 1, right? And balence works, right? Then thew sub category for balence- "Fighter" should somehow work. I it doesn't work on Storm Sag DF145BS or Storm Sag DF145HF/S, it will somehow. And if it doesn't, i'll make it work.
Too bad the combo epically fails though.
You keep attempting to make up this classification that nobody else has used or will use ... there is a reason this type of combo isn't popular: it sucks.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 19, 2009
Its sucks for now. But eventually some part is going to come out and fix the issue. For now, i really think that i might be able to make something that is above sucking, even if its by only a little.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Tempestas007 - Aug. 19, 2009
Trying to make an attack type with more stamina by giving it a stamina bottom is like trying to mix water and oil.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 19, 2009
I'm not trying to throw stamina into attack or attack into stamina; my goal is to bring them together in the middle.
And u've mixed that?
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Bey Brad - Aug. 19, 2009
(Aug. 19, 2009 12:51 AM)firelord767 Wrote: And u've mixed that?
You can't mix water and oil. That's the point.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 19, 2009
What i meant was "U've tried that?"
Mixing and desolving are two diffrent ball games.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - Bey Brad - Aug. 19, 2009
(Aug. 19, 2009 12:55 AM)firelord767 Wrote: What i meant was "U've tried that?"
Mixing and desolving are two diffrent ball games.
... what are you talking about ...
I'm going to try to explain this, one last time. This type of combo is not good at anything, it is just average all around. It doesn't have enough Stamina to beat real Stamina-types, it doesn't have enough Attack to beat ... well, anything.
There are Beyblades that have successfully balanced between Attack and Stamina before but they definitely leaned more in one direction than the other, such as DEMS. You can say, "Well eventually the right part will come out!" Yes, that's possible, but for now the discussion is moot.
RE: Storm Sagittario DF145BS - firelord767 - Aug. 19, 2009
(Aug. 19, 2009 12:57 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: ... what are you talking about ...
I'm going to try to explain this, one last time. This type of combo is not good at anything, it is just average all around. It doesn't have enough Stamina to beat real Stamina-types, it doesn't have enough Attack to beat ... well, anything.
There are Beyblades that have successfully balanced between Attack and Stamina before but they definitely leaned more in one direction than the other, such as DEMS. You can say, "Well eventually the right part will come out!" Yes, that's possible, but for now the discussion is moot.
DEMS?