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I'm wondering this because, I have a left spin bey, that almost never bursts. i wanted to figure out how to find the burst rate of a beyblade. I know that some people have said to test the bey against itself but that won't work, since most people only have one of that same bey. Please tell me if you have found anything about.
well, pretty sure that's impossible. You'd have to battle that bey ten times against a combo(so u can get a good feel, in case of like a mis launch). then you'd take the average of bursts. then you'd have to battle it against every other hasbro and TT combo, including itself and combo's including its parts, and then take the average of that. assuming you have enough time on your hands, you would end up with a rough average of the burst rates of that bey.
ok thank you
(Jan. 25, 2021  10:01 PM)haydenwills Wrote: [ -> ]ok thank you

Well I would say use the new SlingShock Hasbro launchers because they always have the same launch power, and then have that take up against another bey, I would say, 35 times, and also, attack types have a harder time bursting beys that spin in its opposite direction (such as, a left spin attack type would have a hard time against a right spin stamina type), and since most beys are right spin and yours is left, it could be that. One more thing, some beys have a burst stoppers like one or two of the Spryzens, so it could have one of those. And, of course, it could just be a really good bey.
hi my beyblade can spin L and R and R is it main but R is my new fav its does spin steal attack
(Jan. 26, 2021  12:43 AM)hyper beyblades Wrote: [ -> ]hi my beyblade can spin L and R and R is it main but R is my new fav its does spin steal attack

Mine too
but cant burst when L spining well it can but its rare

my beyblade its metal part has to be in a postion for L to work its easy for me

(Jan. 26, 2021  12:44 AM)Spin Stealing Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 26, 2021  12:43 AM)hyper beyblades Wrote: [ -> ]hi my beyblade can spin L and R and R is it main but R is my new fav its does spin steal attack

Mine too

 nice

im asking a question thats sounds very silly but have you ever heard boss music for no reason
(Jan. 26, 2021  12:44 AM)hyper beyblades Wrote: [ -> ]but cant burst when L spining well it can but its rare

my beyblade its metal part has to be in a postion for L to work its easy for me

(Jan. 26, 2021  12:44 AM)Spin Stealing Wrote: [ -> ]Mine too

 nice

im asking a question thats sounds very silly but have you ever heard boss music in the woods or music or sirens or people

Ummm, no
i know its werid i have not

ok is there any bad beybladers around
(Jan. 25, 2021  9:25 PM)haydenwills Wrote: [ -> ]I'm wondering this because, I have a left spin bey, that almost never bursts. i wanted to figure out how to find the burst rate of a beyblade. I know that some people have said to test the bey against itself but that won't work, since most people only have one of that same bey. Please tell me if you have found anything about.

There's no real way to calculate the burst risk of a bey, as there are numerous factors that can affect burst risk.

Such as: Spin direction VS opponent, launch power, whether or not the bey has a double chassis, what kind of teeth the bey has, how light/heavy the layer is, how light/heavy the disk + frame + driver are, tightness of driver springs, whether a driver is a dash variant or not, material of the tip of the driver (plastic, rubber, POM, metal, etc), whether the driver is free-spinning, the shape of the driver's tip (ball, flat, sharp, cone, etc), whether the bey has a gen weight, whether it has an extra-tight god chip, mold variations, shape of the layer (aggressive attack shape, smoother defense shape, stamina shape), material of the layer (if the layer has any rubber), weight distribution of the layer and disk, whether the layer has any burst-preventing gimmicks (Cho-Z beys, Judgement layer, Lord layer, infinite lock system)...

That's all I can come up with off the top of my head
(Jan. 26, 2021  1:00 AM)BladerGem Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 25, 2021  9:25 PM)haydenwills Wrote: [ -> ]I'm wondering this because, I have a left spin bey, that almost never bursts. i wanted to figure out how to find the burst rate of a beyblade. I know that some people have said to test the bey against itself but that won't work, since most people only have one of that same bey. Please tell me if you have found anything about.

There's no real way to calculate the burst risk of a bey, as there are numerous factors that can affect burst risk.

Such as: Spin direction VS opponent, launch power, whether or not the bey has a double chassis, what kind of teeth the bey has, how light/heavy the layer is, how light/heavy the disk + frame + driver are, tightness of driver springs, whether a driver is a dash variant or not, material of the tip of the driver (plastic, rubber, POM, metal, etc), whether the driver is free-spinning, the shape of the driver's tip (ball, flat, sharp, cone, etc), whether the bey has a gen weight, whether it has an extra-tight god chip, mold variations, shape of the layer (aggressive attack shape, smoother defense shape, stamina shape), material of the layer (if the layer has any rubber), weight distribution of the layer and disk, whether the layer has any burst-preventing gimmicks (Cho-Z beys, Judgement layer, Lord layer, infinite lock system)...

That's all I can come up with off the top of my head

That's basically everything that contributes to burst rates, outside of battles at least. Inside the ring, things can play out differently each round. I know you said a few of those things, but the general idea is that there's way too much to even calculate an average burst rate, much less an accurate one.
If you want to test Burst Resistance in battle, near impossible, as BladerGem has said. However, if you just want a general look at how tight the Bey is, just gently move it closer to it’s Burst point. That works for Hasbeys. For TT, just test the teeth strength by moving them click by click, but this doesn’t work on some Beys like ones on double chassis’.

So uh yeah, tons of variables to this, most convenient way is what I’ve shown above.
(Jan. 26, 2021  2:38 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 26, 2021  1:00 AM)BladerGem Wrote: [ -> ]There's no real way to calculate the burst risk of a bey, as there are numerous factors that can affect burst risk.

Such as: Spin direction VS opponent, launch power, whether or not the bey has a double chassis, what kind of teeth the bey has, how light/heavy the layer is, how light/heavy the disk + frame + driver are, tightness of driver springs, whether a driver is a dash variant or not, material of the tip of the driver (plastic, rubber, POM, metal, etc), whether the driver is free-spinning, the shape of the driver's tip (ball, flat, sharp, cone, etc), whether the bey has a gen weight, whether it has an extra-tight god chip, mold variations, shape of the layer (aggressive attack shape, smoother defense shape, stamina shape), material of the layer (if the layer has any rubber), weight distribution of the layer and disk, whether the layer has any burst-preventing gimmicks (Cho-Z beys, Judgement layer, Lord layer, infinite lock system)...

That's all I can come up with off the top of my head

That's basically everything that contributes to burst rates, outside of battles at least. Inside the ring, things can play out differently each round. I know you said a few of those things, but the general idea is that there's way too much to even calculate an average burst rate, much less an accurate one.

That’s why I posted what I did, and even that wouldn’t be perfect, more of a rough calculation. And I don’t think anyone has the time, attention span, or money to test the the trillions, possibly quadrillions of possible combinations.
the bey is Zone Luinor L5. Good attack type and surprisingly it actually used zone hammer. and ohko-ed ace dragon. Wanted to let you know if you wanted to know the beyblade that i was talking about.

(Jan. 26, 2021  12:28 AM)Spin Stealing Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 25, 2021  10:01 PM)haydenwills Wrote: [ -> ]ok thank you

Well I would say use the new SlingShock Hasbro launchers because they always have the same launch power, and then have that take up against another bey, I would say, 35 times, and also, attack types have a harder time bursting beys that spin in its opposite direction (such as, a left spin attack type would have a hard time against a right spin stamina type), and since most beys are right spin and yours is left, it could be that. One more thing, some beys have a burst stoppers like one or two of the Spryzens, so it could have one of those. And, of course, it could just be a really good bey.

well i used to have one but it got stolen with my spriggan requiem
(Jan. 26, 2021  5:23 PM)haydenwills Wrote: [ -> ]the bey is Zone Luinor L5. Good attack type and surprisingly it actually used zone hammer. and ohko-ed ace dragon. Wanted to let you know if you wanted to know the beyblade that i was talking about.

(Jan. 26, 2021  12:28 AM)Spin Stealing Wrote: [ -> ]Well I would say use the new SlingShock Hasbro launchers because they always have the same launch power, and then have that take up against another bey, I would say, 35 times, and also, attack types have a harder time bursting beys that spin in its opposite direction (such as, a left spin attack type would have a hard time against a right spin stamina type), and since most beys are right spin and yours is left, it could be that. One more thing, some beys have a burst stoppers like one or two of the Spryzens, so it could have one of those. And, of course, it could just be a really good bey.

well i used to have one but it got stolen with my spriggan requiem

Stolen?!?! Oof, sorry man. And I just remebered why I have never brought my beys out of my house in the last year.......


(Its because of covid lol)
ima start a thread and see if people will give me a free spriggan requiem Smile
(Jan. 26, 2021  7:16 PM)haydenwills Wrote: [ -> ]ima start a thread and see if people will give me a free spriggan requiem Smile

Nothing in this world comes for free. You most likely won’t get it.
(Jan. 26, 2021  7:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 26, 2021  7:16 PM)haydenwills Wrote: [ -> ]ima start a thread and see if people will give me a free spriggan requiem Smile

Nothing in this world comes for free. You most likely won’t get it.

its worth a shot tho

i just posted it in beyblade general
(Jan. 26, 2021  7:20 PM)haydenwills Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 26, 2021  7:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing in this world comes for free. You most likely won’t get it.

its worth a shot tho

i just posted it in beyblade general

You shouldn't. No one will listen, and it is considered spam.