World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

Full Version: Beyblade Burst DB Anime and Manga discussion
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:00 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]

That feels kinda out of nowhere since Valt and Shu have pretty much always been shown to be the top 2 bladers in the world even in sparking. If i had to take a guess either sometime in DB Valt and Shu will be the top 2 again or after the events of DB they will be the top 2 again (manga wise)since Valt and Shu seem to be Hiro Morita Favs and them ultimately starting the burst gen
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:05 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:00 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]

That feels kinda out of nowhere since Valt and Shu have pretty much always been shown to be the top 2 bladers in the world even in sparking. If i had to take a guess either sometime in DB Valt and Shu will be the top 2 again or after the events of DB they will be the top 2 again (manga wise)
Hiro Morita himself said that Valt and Shu are the backbone of beyblade burst. So I guess that's the reason for them being top two bladers in the world
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:05 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:00 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]

That feels kinda out of nowhere since Valt and Shu have pretty much always been shown to be the top 2 bladers in the world even in sparking. If i had to take a guess either sometime in DB Valt and Shu will be the top 2 again or after the events of DB they will be the top 2 again (manga wise)since Valt and Shu seem to be Hiro Morita Favs and them ultimately starting the burst gen
I was pretty surprised by the choice myself. This is all manga exclusive. Valt's still#1 in the anime. I'm hoping that by the end of the manga Valt is back to being #1 in the World.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:12 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:05 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]That feels kinda out of nowhere since Valt and Shu have pretty much always been shown to be the top 2 bladers in the world even in sparking. If i had to take a guess either sometime in DB Valt and Shu will be the top 2 again or after the events of DB they will be the top 2 again (manga wise)since Valt and Shu seem to be Hiro Morita Favs and them ultimately starting the burst gen
I was pretty surprised by the choice myself. This is all manga exclusive. Valt's still#1 in the anime. I'm hoping that by the end of the manga Valt is back to being #1 in the World.
I don't think you're actually paying attention too well. This isn't just a small manga only set back for Valt's world domination. There is actually narrative sense to it.
If i had to be honest i think hes only number 1 for the story im pretty sure after something happens in DB or after the events of DB Valt and Shu will be the top 2 again. they basically are the ones started burst and have always been shown to be the bladers who ultimately stand above the others with Valt being the legend who inspires them all and Shu being a mentor to help other studensts like with lane trying to lead them down the right paths
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:08 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jul. 16, 2021  8:13 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:12 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I was pretty surprised by the choice myself. This is all manga exclusive. Valt's still#1 in the anime. I'm hoping that by the end of the manga Valt is back to being #1 in the World.
I don't think you're actually paying attention too well.. This isn't just a small manga only set back for Valt's world domination. There is actually narrative sense to it.
I'm comprehending just fine. I simply stated I'm hoping by the end of the manga Valt had his rank back. Is that a crime?
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:16 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:13 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think you're actually paying attention too well.. This isn't just a small manga only set back for Valt's world domination. There is actually narrative sense to it.
I'm comprehending just fine. I simply stated I'm hoping by the end of the manga Valt had his rank back. Is that a crime?

Wait does this mean valt is no longer the legend of legends? Or did he earn that name because even if hes not number 1 he shows infinite potential to be stronger and being an insperation just like Hiro said?
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:15 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:08 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]



(Jul. 16, 2021  8:16 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:13 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think you're actually paying attention too well.. This isn't just a small manga only set back for Valt's world domination. There is actually narrative sense to it.
I'm comprehending just fine. I simply stated I'm hoping by the end of the manga Valt had his rank back. Is that a crime?

No but the way your were saying it, it honestly seemed that you just weren't paying attention. You seem to be more focused on Valt's rank, rather then what him not being No #1 does for the story.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:17 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:16 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I'm comprehending just fine. I simply stated I'm hoping by the end of the manga Valt had his rank back. Is that a crime?

Wait does this mean valt is no longer the legend of legends? Or did he earn that name because even if hes not number 1 he shows infinite potential just like Hiro said?
Only in the manga. Him being the Legend of Legends is tied to his rank as 1 in the world. Rashad's only #1 in the manga.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:16 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:13 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think you're actually paying attention too well.. This isn't just a small manga only set back for Valt's world domination. There is actually narrative sense to it.
I'm comprehending just fine. I simply stated I'm hoping by the end of the manga Valt had his rank back. Is that a crime?

I think you misunterstood what he meant by narrative. The rashad thing will most likely happen in the anime as well not Just manga exclusive cause its a big part for rashad & this narrative will be what makes him go Badman. Valt will eventually act since it effect him as well
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:20 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:16 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I'm comprehending just fine. I simply stated I'm hoping by the end of the manga Valt had his rank back. Is that a crime?

I think you misunterstood what he meant by narrative. The rashad thing will most likely happen in the anime as well not Just manga exclusive cause its a big part for rashad & this narrative will be what makes him go Badman. Valt will eventually act since it effect him as well
That actually could work narrative wise because if Rashad is number 1 maybe Valt could beat him later on reclaiming the rank and bell beats Rashad as well ultimately making Rashad become the badman since Valt Vs Rashad hasnt happend yet via manga
Edit:unless Valt and rashad did battle in that case Valt possibly getting a focused rematch
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:20 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jul. 16, 2021  8:17 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:15 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]


(Jul. 16, 2021  8:16 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I'm comprehending just fine. I simply stated I'm hoping by the end of the manga Valt had his rank back. Is that a crime?

No but the way your were saying it, it honestly seemed that you just weren't paying attention. You seem to be more focused on Valt's rank, rather then what him not being No #1 does for the story.

I simply stated a fact. The fact is, this hasn't happened in the anime and I want Valt to have rank back by the end of the manga. There's nothing wrong with that nor is it an indication that I'm somehow missing what's going in the story. Furthermore we don't know what direction this will be taken in or how or if this will be used for character dynamics.

(Jul. 16, 2021  8:20 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:16 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I'm comprehending just fine. I simply stated I'm hoping by the end of the manga Valt had his rank back. Is that a crime?

I think you misunterstood what he meant by narrative. The rashad thing will most likely happen in the anime as well not Just manga exclusive cause its a big part for rashad & this narrative will be what makes him go Badman. Valt will eventually act since it effect him as well

I simply said Rashad being #1 is manga exclusive. Hasn't happened in the anime. In addition we don't know if Rashad will actually end up being a villain. It's possible, but we don't have any concrete indications of that.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:17 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]


No but the way your were saying it, it honestly seemed that you just weren't paying attention. You seem to be more focused on Valt's rank, rather then what him not being No #1 does for the story.

I simply stated a fact. The fact is, this hasn't happened in the anime and I want Valt to have rank back by the end of the manga. There's nothing wrong with that nor is it an indication that I'm somehow missing what's going in the story. Furthermore we don't know what direction this will be taken in

(Jul. 16, 2021  8:20 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]I think you misunterstood what he meant by narrative. The rashad thing will most likely happen in the anime as well not Just manga exclusive cause its a big part for rashad & this narrative will be what makes him go Badman. Valt will eventually act since it effect him as well

I simply said Rashad being #1 is manga exclusive. Hasn't happened in the anime. In addition we don't know if Rashad will actually end up being a villain. It's possible, but we don't have any concrete indications of that.

First of all, he's clearly a villain. That was obvious if you read the summary. He's a delusional psycho who will attack anyone he deems a bad guy, and believes he's a hero who everyone aspires to be. Second, we do know what direction this would go in. If you have any prior knowledge of Burst certain stuff gets predictable. The introductions of more bladers will be more tests for him to uphold his delusions, it's as simple as that.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:17 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]


No but the way your were saying it, it honestly seemed that you just weren't paying attention. You seem to be more focused on Valt's rank, rather then what him not being No #1 does for the story.

I simply stated a fact. The fact is, this hasn't happened in the anime and I want Valt to have rank back by the end of the manga. There's nothing wrong with that nor is it an indication that I'm somehow missing what's going in the story. Furthermore we don't know what direction this will be taken in

(Jul. 16, 2021  8:20 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]I think you misunterstood what he meant by narrative. The rashad thing will most likely happen in the anime as well not Just manga exclusive cause its a big part for rashad & this narrative will be what makes him go Badman. Valt will eventually act since it effect him as well

I simply said Rashad being #1 is manga exclusive. Hasn't happened in the anime. In addition we don't know if Rashad will actually end up being a villain. It's possible, but we don't have any concrete indications of that.
I think Valt will be the strongest blader and have the number 1 rank again either durning/End/after the events of the manga because the start of every season/manga it always shows Valt off as the strongest blader and i think Hiro Morita even confirmed Valt to ultimately be the strongest in the series
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:31 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I simply stated a fact. The fact is, this hasn't happened in the anime and I want Valt to have rank back by the end of the manga. There's nothing wrong with that nor is it an indication that I'm somehow missing what's going in the story. Furthermore we don't know what direction this will be taken in


I simply said Rashad being #1 is manga exclusive. Hasn't happened in the anime. In addition we don't know if Rashad will actually end up being a villain. It's possible, but we don't have any concrete indications of that.
I think Valt will be the strongest blader and have the number 1 rank again either durning/End/after the events of the manga because the start of every season/manga it always shows Valt off as the strongest blader and i think Hiro Morita even confirmed Valt to ultimately be the strongest in the series

Overall, he's pretty powerful, and it will continue to be that way. He's never be confirmed to be the definitive number one throughout the entire franchise. Him and Shu are always tied for the strongest power level (rankings aside), and this is without the introductions of new forces in the blading world, like Lane or Rashad.

Ultimately being No. 1 doesn't prove anything. Just like with Gingka and Ryuga and Tyson and Kai, both rivals will end up at around the same power level. This is why I don't get why some people always insist on him being No. 1 tbh.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:34 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:31 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]I think Valt will be the strongest blader and have the number 1 rank again either durning/End/after the events of the manga because the start of every season/manga it always shows Valt off as the strongest blader and i think Hiro Morita even confirmed Valt to ultimately be the strongest in the series

Overall, he's pretty powerful, and it will continue to be that way. He's never be confirmed to be the definitive number one throughout the entire franchise. Him and Shu are always tied for the strongest power level (rankings aside), and this is without the introductions of new forces in the blading world, like Lane or Rashad.

Ultimately being No. 1 doesn't prove anything. Just like with Gingka and Ryuga and Tyson and Kai, both rivals will end up at around the same power level.
Oh really? Pretty much half to all of Valts bio’s talks about how hes the worlds top blader or the strongest legend. Guess ya learn something new everyday then.
Edit: i know valt and shu have always been close in power no doubt i just went off of what the anime/manga/and the bios said
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:31 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I simply stated a fact. The fact is, this hasn't happened in the anime and I want Valt to have rank back by the end of the manga. There's nothing wrong with that nor is it an indication that I'm somehow missing what's going in the story. Furthermore we don't know what direction this will be taken in


I simply said Rashad being #1 is manga exclusive. Hasn't happened in the anime. In addition we don't know if Rashad will actually end up being a villain. It's possible, but we don't have any concrete indications of that.

First of all, he's clearly a villain. That was obvious if you read the summary. He's a delusional psycho who will attack anyone he deems a bad guy, and believes he's a hero who everyone aspires to be. Second, we do know what direction this would go in. If you have any prior knowledge of Burst certain stuff gets predictable. The introductions of more bladers will be more tests for him to uphold his delusions, it's as simple as that.

That's what you infer from it but that's not a concrete conclusion. He hasn't done anything indicating malicious intent. In addition unless we have the outline for what is coming next we can't state with absolute certainty what direction they're going to take with every detail. Especially with a character like Rashad who is straying from the norm. So it's really not that simple. You can have a character be a antagonist without them being an outright villain. We've seen this in Burst before with Lui.

(Jul. 16, 2021  8:36 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:34 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]Overall, he's pretty powerful, and it will continue to be that way. He's never be confirmed to be the definitive number one throughout the entire franchise. Him and Shu are always tied for the strongest power level (rankings aside), and this is without the introductions of new forces in the blading world, like Lane or Rashad.

Ultimately being No. 1 doesn't prove anything. Just like with Gingka and Ryuga and Tyson and Kai, both rivals will end up at around the same power level.
Oh really? Pretty much half to all of Valts bio’s talks about how hes the worlds top blader or the strongest legend. Guess ya learn something new everyday then.

And you'd be right. In both Sparking and DB Valt was stated to be the strongest in the world. Shu is close to him in power though. Even in the Turbo manga Shu mentioned that he couldn't replicate Valt's level of power.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:38 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:31 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]First of all, he's clearly a villain. That was obvious if you read the summary. He's a delusional psycho who will attack anyone he deems a bad guy, and believes he's a hero who everyone aspires to be. Second, we do know what direction this would go in. If you have any prior knowledge of Burst certain stuff gets predictable. The introductions of more bladers will be more tests for him to uphold his delusions, it's as simple as that.

That's what you infer from it but that's not a concrete conclusion. He hasn't done anything indicating malicious intent. In addition unless we have the outline for what is coming next we can't state with absolute certainty what direction they're going to take with every detail. Especially with a character like Rashad who is straying from the norm. So it's really not that simple. You can have a character be a antagonist without them being an outright villain. We've seen this in Burst before with Lui.

(Jul. 16, 2021  8:36 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]Oh really? Pretty much half to all of Valts bio’s talks about how hes the worlds top blader or the strongest legend. Guess ya learn something new everyday then.

And you'd be right. In both Sparking and DB Valt was stated to be the strongest in the world. Shu is close to him in power though. Even in the Turbo manga Shu mentioned that he couldn't replicate Valt's level of power.
Wait Didnt he not tell/encourage basara to throw away solomon? He had a sorta resentful side after he lost to valt and didnt show those feelings until after he was away. Even the manga poster shows rashad with this evil look and aura around him. Hes even placed at the bottom of everyone with this look like hes hiding his true colors. Im just going off of what I saw via manga and anime
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:36 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:34 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]Overall, he's pretty powerful, and it will continue to be that way. He's never be confirmed to be the definitive number one throughout the entire franchise. Him and Shu are always tied for the strongest power level (rankings aside), and this is without the introductions of new forces in the blading world, like Lane or Rashad.

Ultimately being No. 1 doesn't prove anything. Just like with Gingka and Ryuga and Tyson and Kai, both rivals will end up at around the same power level.
Oh really? Pretty much half to all of Valts bio’s talks about how hes the worlds top blader or the strongest legend. Guess ya learn something new everyday then.

Well it was the same with tyson but at the kai was still his equal. Of course Bio is saying that his the strongest thats what you put when your the #1 blader. Aiga had the same Bio back an gt you have to put it. But that doesn't equal you have no equal. Theirs other franchise that does that too. I'll give you one example look at bakugan dan kuso was #1 during all season after S1 his but yet spectra, anubias, shun or borodius was makin him sweet like crazy even beat him. And dan was acknowledge by the bakugan universe to be the best & strongest. Not every franchise that  promoted strongest means they don't have equal. Valt is no shiba Tatsuya or anos voldigoad or sung Jin woo (he has an equal) .
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:38 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:31 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]First of all, he's clearly a villain. That was obvious if you read the summary. He's a delusional psycho who will attack anyone he deems a bad guy, and believes he's a hero who everyone aspires to be. Second, we do know what direction this would go in. If you have any prior knowledge of Burst certain stuff gets predictable. The introductions of more bladers will be more tests for him to uphold his delusions, it's as simple as that.

That's what you infer from it but that's not a concrete conclusion. He hasn't done anything indicating malicious intent. In addition unless we have the outline for what is coming next we can't state with absolute certainty what direction they're going to take with every detail. Especially with a character like Rashad who is straying from the norm. So it's really not that simple. You can have a character be a antagonist without them being an outright villain. We've seen this in Burst before with Lui.

(Jul. 16, 2021  8:36 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]Oh really? Pretty much half to all of Valts bio’s talks about how hes the worlds top blader or the strongest legend. Guess ya learn something new everyday then.

And you'd be right. In both Sparking and DB Valt was stated to be the strongest in the world. Shu is close to him in power though. Even in the Turbo manga Shu mentioned that he couldn't replicate Valt's level of power.

You just genuinely don't understand the story at this point.

de·lu·sion·al
/dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/
adjective
  1. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
He says he is the hope of the blading world and that every blader wants to be liek him. This is false. How would he know that every single person blading wants to be like him. Even if he went to every single person, some people have other goals, like being Bey trainers.

He picks and chooses who he wants to be a bag guy. a Purse snatcher is not on the level of some random obstacle course, and you don't need to deliver pain to every single person you deem a bag guy. This is why we have a justice system that is built at it's core to reform criminals. Simply punishing them with pain doesn't make them actually change as a person.

psy·cho·path
/ˈsīkəˌpaTH/
noun
  1. a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior.
His behavior has shown above, does not come from a place of logic or reasoning. He's let the power get to his head and thinks he's some sort of god that governs over the blading world. He also has violent behavior, as I also commented on. Purse Snatcher do not need to be punched in the face. This wasn't a slap, the person was launched off their back. In a worse case scenario, the person breaks their spine from the fall and dies. Flying off a vehicle no joke, and Rashad was casually dealing that to a low level criminal like he deserved it.
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:48 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 16, 2021  8:36 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]Oh really? Pretty much half to all of Valts bio’s talks about how hes the worlds top blader or the strongest legend. Guess ya learn something new everyday then.

Well it was the same with tyson but at the kai was still his equal. Of course Bio is saying that his the strongest thats what you put when your the #1 blader. Aiga had the same Bio back an gt you have to put it. But that doesn't equal you have no equal. Theirs other franchise that does that too. I'll give you one example look at bakugan dan kuso was #1 during all season after S1 his but yet spectra, anubias, shun or borodius was makin him sweet like crazy even beat him. And dan was acknowledge by the bakugan universe to be the best & strongest. Not every franchise that  promoted strongest means they don't have equal. Valt is no shiba Tatsuya or anos voldigoad or sung Jin woo (he has an equal) .
I know Valt has equals i mainly just went off of what the bios and Hiro said but i always knew people could rival Valt. He may be the strongest but its impossible to win every battle