(Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
I don't think you understand. Ranzo and Basara aren't very strong, and he beat Lui using pure strategy.
(Apr. 13, 2021 12:06 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
Lol how Bell is strong from the gates his not introduces as a rookie at all. You wanna complain he beat lui Who has rage while he has the new system? What did you think would happen lui beat the new system with his now old system lol. Plus Bell only beat one strong blader both basara & ranzo are not big bois plus neither even has a db bey yo begin with so tell me where do you see him having more plot armor than lane cause it seems you not only didnt watch sparking but also dynamite & simply want to criticize a character Who havent even beat bladers with actual db beys lol
The new system isn’t everything. Look at Phi who is better than GT bladers like Delta and Gwyn.
(Apr. 13, 2021 12:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2021 12:06 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]Lol how Bell is strong from the gates his not introduces as a rookie at all. You wanna complain he beat lui Who has rage while he has the new system? What did you think would happen lui beat the new system with his now old system lol. Plus Bell only beat one strong blader both basara & ranzo are not big bois plus neither even has a db bey yo begin with so tell me where do you see him having more plot armor than lane cause it seems you not only didnt watch sparking but also dynamite & simply want to criticize a character Who havent even beat bladers with actual db beys lol
The new system isn’t everything. Look at Phi who is better than GT bladers like Delta and Gwyn.
My point was lui aint going win the new toy on screen. Phi is stronger than delta & gwynn but we dont see him bey battling yes phi in general is stronger (imo) but my point was new toy dont lose to old one when on screen. Plus in the Manga their more liberty of making an old gen going against or beat a new gen like For example hikaru vs fubuki in the manga it was a close match. While the anime doesnt like doing that most old beys will lose to new beys
(Apr. 13, 2021 12:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2021 12:06 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]Lol how Bell is strong from the gates his not introduces as a rookie at all. You wanna complain he beat lui Who has rage while he has the new system? What did you think would happen lui beat the new system with his now old system lol. Plus Bell only beat one strong blader both basara & ranzo are not big bois plus neither even has a db bey yo begin with so tell me where do you see him having more plot armor than lane cause it seems you not only didnt watch sparking but also dynamite & simply want to criticize a character Who havent even beat bladers with actual db beys lol
The new system isn’t everything. Look at Phi who is better than GT bladers like Delta and Gwyn.
Well, in the context of that, all of those legends probably have "Sparking" beys, even if they weren't shown. No way that someone like Zac would slip their way in just with Zillion Zeus or somethin. Plus, this is coming from the manga context as well, while the anime treats old system beys as lesser or usually fodder, no matter how important the character.
I'm just stating that Bell started off with extremely more strength than other main characters.
(Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
are you kidding me rn
bell doesnt have "plot armor"
please stop using that term whenever your fav loses
(Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
Just Because A New Character just Benched the Fav Old Character. Doesn't mean He or She has Plot Armour!
Use Your Brain! Times Have Changed...
Bell has no Plot armor... He's just Very Strong
(Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
You do realize that Bell isnt some Pee-Baby who has never touched a bey in his entire existence, the kid is a very strong and talented blader and I think everyone knows that. Plot Armor is not valid especially when we're 3 episodes in.
There are 2 reason why Lui lost:
1. Bell had a strategy to beat Lui and it succeeded perfectly. (im assuming he was trying to counter Raging Upper since that makes more sense)
2. Lui had no idea how the DB System worked and he certainly wasn't prepared for what Belial had in store.
I suggest we stop using Plot Armor as an excuse randomly.
(Apr. 13, 2021 2:06 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
You do realize that Bell isnt some Pee-Baby who has never touched a bey in his entire existence, the kid is a very strong and talented blader and I think everyone knows that. Plot Armor is not valid especially when we're 3 episodes in.
There are 2 reason why Lui lost:
1. Bell had a strategy to beat Lui and it succeeded perfectly. (im assuming he was trying to counter Raging Upper since that makes more sense)
2. Lui had no idea how the DB System worked and he certainly wasn't prepared for what Belial had in store.
I suggest we stop using Plot Armor as an excuse randomly.
That’s a fair point. If I may add that Bell is probably a smarter protagonist than Dante considering he is smart enough to make a new system with currently unknown sources. Lui could have owned him had he known about dynamite beys and evolved Luinor before taking punches at Bell. Belial would have lost if Luinor was up to date
(Apr. 13, 2021 1:37 AM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
are you kidding me rn
bell doesnt have "plot armor"
please stop using that term whenever your fav loses
I never said lui was my fave
(Apr. 13, 2021 2:23 AM)TitanDragon Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2021 2:06 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]You do realize that Bell isnt some Pee-Baby who has never touched a bey in his entire existence, the kid is a very strong and talented blader and I think everyone knows that. Plot Armor is not valid especially when we're 3 episodes in.
There are 2 reason why Lui lost:
1. Bell had a strategy to beat Lui and it succeeded perfectly. (im assuming he was trying to counter Raging Upper since that makes more sense)
2. Lui had no idea how the DB System worked and he certainly wasn't prepared for what Belial had in store.
I suggest we stop using Plot Armor as an excuse randomly.
That’s a fair point. If I may add that Bell is probably a smarter protagonist than Dante considering he is smart enough to make a new system with currently unknown sources. Lui could have owned him had he known about dynamite beys and evolved Luinor before taking punches at Bell. Belial would have lost if Luinor was up to date
I don’t think Lui would “own” him tbh. System aside, he had Lui on a curb and was much smarter and far more strategic. He was constantly outsmarting Lui all while brushing off his techniques. Bell would lose only because the plot needs him to lose.
(Apr. 13, 2021 12:24 AM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just stating that Bell started off with extremely more strength than other main characters.
Well yes, Bell's setup is different from other protagonist. Unlike most of the other protagonists who start off as rookies or haven't touched a bey in their lives, it's made clear that Bell has had experience with blading before and is rather good at it. Plus, he has a new system so Lui getting defeated by him is at least believable.
It's also a reason why I didn't mind Gingka defeating many newcomers he's never faced in the first season of MFB, since he also started off as an extremely talented and experienced blader before the season began.
(Apr. 13, 2021 2:28 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2021 2:23 AM)TitanDragon Wrote: [ -> ]That’s a fair point. If I may add that Bell is probably a smarter protagonist than Dante considering he is smart enough to make a new system with currently unknown sources. Lui could have owned him had he known about dynamite beys and evolved Luinor before taking punches at Bell. Belial would have lost if Luinor was up to date
I don’t think Lui would “own” him tbh. System aside, he had Lui on a curb and was much smarter and far more strategic. He was constantly outsmarting Lui all while brushing off his techniques. Bell would lose only because the plot needs him to lose.
I don't know about all that. That's basically saying that Lui isn't a match for him in any circumstance which I don't think is right.
(Apr. 13, 2021 2:33 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2021 2:28 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t think Lui would “own” him tbh. System aside, he had Lui on a curb and was much smarter and far more strategic. He was constantly outsmarting Lui all while brushing off his techniques. Bell would lose only because the plot needs him to lose.
I don't know about all that. That's basically saying that Lui isn't a match for him in any circumstance which I don't think is right.
Not necessarily, I was meaning to say that Lui wouldn’t own him. I said Bell would only lose to him because the plot needs him to lose simply because he would have to lose that first battle against Longinus for its introduction.
(Apr. 13, 2021 2:38 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2021 2:33 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know about all that. That's basically saying that Lui isn't a match for him in any circumstance which I don't think is right.
Not necessarily, I was meaning to say that Lui wouldn’t own him. I said Bell would only lose to him because the plot needs him to lose simply because he would have to lose that first battle against Longinus for its introduction.
I won't say wether he'd own him or not, but with a DB bey it would be more than reasonable for Lui to defeat him. Lui is a legend after all.
Hi, sorry if I was rude to you, I'm having a horrible time right now. I am struggling to study for a math test. Anyway, sorry.
(Apr. 13, 2021 3:34 AM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]Hi, sorry if I was rude to you, I'm having a horrible time right now. I am struggling to study for a math test. Anyway, sorry.
I understand and I forgive you BUT I wouldn’t say Bell had plot armor and I definitely wouldn’t dare put him on Leans pedestal the same guy who yells flare every ten seconds just to get his dumb power up across other then that Bell has a good excuse as to why he won yes it’s bc he had a DB bey but in all honesty he was outsmarting Lui to be fair Lui countered him once but Bell easily countered him right back Bell is no blader that just started he definitely knows about his own potential considering the fact he already has a bond with his bey literally just like Valt already had a bond with Valkyrie not only that he will probably lose to Ranzou this Friday anyways
(Apr. 13, 2021 1:37 AM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
are you kidding me rn
bell doesnt have "plot armor"
please stop using that term whenever your fav loses
(Apr. 13, 2021 2:03 AM)THunderACE4 Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
Just Because A New Character just Benched the Fav Old Character. Doesn't mean He or She has Plot Armour!
Use Your Brain! Times Have Changed...
Bell has no Plot armor... He's just Very Strong
(Apr. 13, 2021 2:06 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
You do realize that Bell isnt some Pee-Baby who has never touched a bey in his entire existence, the kid is a very strong and talented blader and I think everyone knows that. Plot Armor is not valid especially when we're 3 episodes in.
There are 2 reason why Lui lost:
1. Bell had a strategy to beat Lui and it succeeded perfectly. (im assuming he was trying to counter Raging Upper since that makes more sense)
2. Lui had no idea how the DB System worked and he certainly wasn't prepared for what Belial had in store.
I suggest we stop using Plot Armor as an excuse randomly.
Admit it though plot armor is coming whether we like or not its as vital to the show as is resonance or spinning tops.
If we want to talk about plot armor,take a look at Transformer,Megatron always loses despite having cooler design,as a fan of Lui I've started to accept his loses
Wonder where to watch the English sub version
(Apr. 13, 2021 2:24 PM)Dasmind Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder where to watch the English sub version
I believe it's stopped being subbed.
(Apr. 12, 2021 11:46 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about patience, correct me if I'm mistaken but there isn't a single main character that has ever won their first battle for the season. And Bell is out there beating Lui.
Bell has way more plot armor than Lane.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. It's a joke? Bell already have experience, he don't use plot since his bey is good. If you analyze his bey you will see why it's strong. He even use strategy and have good useful parts. To us was said that new season will be a little bit like MFB. That thing that he beat Lui mean that his bey is more way powerful than any Sparking bey. Lean was very big plot armour user. His Limit Break don't even deserve to burst bey, his evolution is very useless. He activate Limit Break and power that goes in ground burst beys. How? He also beat 2 beys and even spin more. He is the biggest user of plot armour
(Apr. 13, 2021 12:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2021 12:06 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]Lol how Bell is strong from the gates his not introduces as a rookie at all. You wanna complain he beat lui Who has rage while he has the new system? What did you think would happen lui beat the new system with his now old system lol. Plus Bell only beat one strong blader both basara & ranzo are not big bois plus neither even has a db bey yo begin with so tell me where do you see him having more plot armor than lane cause it seems you not only didnt watch sparking but also dynamite & simply want to criticize a character Who havent even beat bladers with actual db beys lol
The new system isn’t everything. Look at Phi who is better than GT bladers like Delta and Gwyn.
What are you talking about? What Phi do there. You change theme about bladers that not even confirmed. What with you. If you want to say that Phi could easily beat GT beys with Choz, sorry but nope. Lean with Uranus beat Geist Fafnir and Hikaru with Helios Volcano beat on easy Emperor Forneus, I wonder how Fubuki get 1 point, but it's not main
(Apr. 13, 2021 12:24 AM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just stating that Bell started off with extremely more strength than other main characters.
Hyuga and Hikaru were so weak , that they butsted from one hit( where clicks). Do you think it's ok?
(Apr. 13, 2021 3:21 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2021 12:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]The new system isn’t everything. Look at Phi who is better than GT bladers like Delta and Gwyn.
What are you talking about? What Phi do there. You change theme about bladers that not even confirmed. What with you. If you want to say that Phi could easily beat GT beys with Choz, sorry but nope. Lean with Uranus beat Geist Fafnir and Hikaru with Helios Volcano beat on easy Emperor Forneus, I wonder how Fubuki get 1 point, but it's not main
Have you seen what Phi has done? He has broken Cho-z Spriggan, Dead Hades, Geist Fafnir, Vice Leopard, and Z Achilles with dark resonance. His armor is an incredibly strong gimmick and he has the friction driver I mean like anime wise the only reason Phi lost was because Aiga simply had massive plus points in strengths from coming out of dark resonance (which has been shown to make someone stronger). There’s no way Delta would be able to beat Phi with Master (the superior out of the Diabolos tree) because he hasn’t shown that destructive capability that Phi has, and Gwyn couldn’t either because of similar reasons (sure you could say that he could calculate some things, but we know that his calculations don’t factor resonance). Overall Phi is definitely stronger than most GT bladers (obviously disincluding Drum).
I agree with Phi is stronger than all of the GT bladers execpt Drum.