(Mar. 17, 2021 9:39 PM)eggblader Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 28, 2020 7:01 AM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ]M8, they beys literally don't work! Why are you so intent on defending hasbro's bad decision here? I don't understand, like hasbro screwed up here, why is it so hard to admit?
i just dont understand why-- oh. i was gonna say they shouldmake teeth outta metal. no thats too expensive.
They can fix the problem, just give the Beys slopes and not teeth.
(Mar. 22, 2021 12:34 PM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 17, 2021 9:39 PM)eggblader Wrote: [ -> ]i just dont understand why-- oh. i was gonna say they shouldmake teeth outta metal. no thats too expensive.
They can fix the problem, just give the Beys slopes and not teeth.
theb that ruins the whole pro series gimmick.
(Mar. 23, 2021 2:35 AM)eggblader Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 22, 2021 12:34 PM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ]They can fix the problem, just give the Beys slopes and not teeth.
theb that ruins the whole pro series gimmick.
How? The gimmick isn't that they are TT Beys, it's that they are competitive Beys. It makes no sense to give them teeth.
(Mar. 23, 2021 3:19 AM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 23, 2021 2:35 AM)eggblader Wrote: [ -> ]theb that ruins the whole pro series gimmick.
How? The gimmick isn't that they are TT Beys, it's that they are competitive Beys. It makes no sense to give them teeth.
well yeah so they added teeth.
(Mar. 22, 2021 12:34 PM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 17, 2021 9:39 PM)eggblader Wrote: [ -> ]i just dont understand why-- oh. i was gonna say they shouldmake teeth outta metal. no thats too expensive.
They can fix the problem, just give the Beys slopes and not teeth.
Unless they can make it non-compatible with the main Hasbro line I don’t see it happening. This is because the pro series is meant to be separate from the main Hasbro line. Also if you were to make new beys with slopes this would mean that the pro series already released aren’t compatible with the new pro series making it seem sort of weird. All in all the best thing for Hasbro to do is do something with the teeth.
(Mar. 23, 2021 4:58 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 22, 2021 12:34 PM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ]They can fix the problem, just give the Beys slopes and not teeth.
Unless they can make it non-compatible with the main Hasbro line I don’t see it happening. This is because the pro series is meant to be separate from the main Hasbro line. Also if you were to make new beys with slopes this would mean that the pro series already released aren’t compatible with the new pro series making it seem sort of weird. All in all the best thing for Hasbro to do is do something with the teeth.
The use of teeth is my main problem with the series. The importance of customization in a game like beyblade can't be overstated. Customization is what gives life to the beyblade game and with it limited to such an extent for no reason, it's just sad. And no, the Beys don't have to be compatible with previous pro series Beys, as those are faulty products.
(Mar. 23, 2021 12:27 PM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 23, 2021 4:58 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Unless they can make it non-compatible with the main Hasbro line I don’t see it happening. This is because the pro series is meant to be separate from the main Hasbro line. Also if you were to make new beys with slopes this would mean that the pro series already released aren’t compatible with the new pro series making it seem sort of weird. All in all the best thing for Hasbro to do is do something with the teeth.
The use of teeth is my main problem with the series. The importance of customization in a game like beyblade can't be overstated. Customization is what gives life to the beyblade game and with it limited to such an extent for no reason, it's just sad. And no, the Beys don't have to be compatible with previous pro series Beys, as those are faulty products.
If Hasbro wanted to make the pro series compatible with the main series I’m sure they would have done it. Also I say that the new pro series has to be compatible with the old pro series because the old are still going to be on the shelf which will just make things all the more confusing. And before you say well why not just take the first wave off the shelves, Hasbro’s corporate deals with that so yeah no chance that’s happening.
The Pro Series, which I have first-hand experience with all the current three, has practically no difference (except for a few different stock combo parts). The teeth do not wear down faster.
(Mar. 23, 2021 7:18 PM)SeaBASS90 Wrote: [ -> ]The Pro Series, which I have first-hand experience with all the current three, has practically no difference (except for a few different stock combo parts). The teeth do not wear down faster.
People like Shindog, and BladeKid who have shown in video their experience shows how easily the teeth can wear, or the countless segments I've done on Wave 2 showing how easily it wears down.
The teeth do wear down faster.
There is a difference between Pro and TT for the simple reason that Hasbro chose to use a weaker plastic through a simple hardness test.
i hope on the new wave(if hasbruh makes one) they fix the teeth wear problem
(Mar. 23, 2021 7:38 PM)sushiroll1234 Wrote: [ -> ]i hope on the new wave(if hasbruh makes one) they fix the teeth wear problem
Hasbro is planning to make a new wave, with Beys like Judgment Joker. i doubt that they will change the plastic, though.
(Mar. 23, 2021 7:49 PM)SeaBASS90 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 23, 2021 7:38 PM)sushiroll1234 Wrote: [ -> ]i hope on the new wave(if hasbruh makes one) they fix the teeth wear problem
Hasbro is planning to make a new wave, with Beys like Judgment Joker. i doubt that they will change the plastic, though.
Hasbro judgement is out and no teeth fix.
(Mar. 23, 2021 10:22 PM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 23, 2021 7:49 PM)SeaBASS90 Wrote: [ -> ]Hasbro is planning to make a new wave, with Beys like Judgment Joker. i doubt that they will change the plastic, though.
Hasbro judgement is out and no teeth fix.
big oof, hopefully they fix the issue
(Mar. 23, 2021 10:25 PM)sushiroll1234 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 23, 2021 10:22 PM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ]Hasbro judgement is out and no teeth fix.
big oof, hopefully they fix the issue
Hopefully they give them slopes.
(Mar. 23, 2021 3:52 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar. 23, 2021 12:27 PM)bladekid Wrote: [ -> ]The use of teeth is my main problem with the series. The importance of customization in a game like beyblade can't be overstated. Customization is what gives life to the beyblade game and with it limited to such an extent for no reason, it's just sad. And no, the Beys don't have to be compatible with previous pro series Beys, as those are faulty products.
If Hasbro wanted to make the pro series compatible with the main series I’m sure they would have done it. Also I say that the new pro series has to be compatible with the old pro series because the old are still going to be on the shelf which will just make things all the more confusing. And before you say well why not just take the first wave off the shelves, Hasbro’s corporate deals with that so yeah no chance that’s happening.
What I believe is that hasbro just took the "hasbro fans want more TT like Beys" and just didn't understand why.
Why cant spin master or another toy company just get the license for beyblade burst and start making the beys the right way?
(Apr. 02, 2021 10:54 PM)abidjkhan7 Wrote: [ -> ]Why cant spin master or another toy company just get the license for beyblade burst and start making the beys the right way?
Because that would mean spin master would have to buy the rights to beyblade from TT or hasbro, if done with just one company would break cause ether company to sue the other. Even if they buy the rights and transition the agreement from hasbro to spin master it would cost a whole ton of money that ultimately won’t be made back since burst will most likely end in DB if not 2/3 years.
(Apr. 02, 2021 10:54 PM)abidjkhan7 Wrote: [ -> ]Why cant spin master or another toy company just get the license for beyblade burst and start making the beys the right way?
It’s not like Hasbro is making beys the wrong way. It’s just that the vision for Hasbro pro series is new for Hasbro so they’re really confused.
A thing to note is that the beys they've released aren't even viable and/or outclassed in today's meta
ChoZ Valtryek - outclassed
ChoZ Achilles - outclassed
Orb Engaard - heavely outclassed
Zwei Luinor - might still have uses but still outclassed by Rage
Judgement Joker - may still have uses but still outclassed by Super, First and Brave
Perfect Phoenix - not sure if pP is still relevant so someone may need to answer that for me.
(Apr. 02, 2021 11:51 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]It’s not like Hasbro is making beys the wrong way. It’s just that the vision for Hasbro pro series is new for Hasbro so they’re really confused.
If a almost 100 year old toy company is confused over releasing a spinning toy, I get a bad feeling overall.
Hasbro is not a company that needs trial and error to set their standards for durability. By this point it's clear that the products have issues. They haven't fixed it, they didn't attempt to fix it and they haven't even addressed it in an official post.
I don't see them fixing the issue, a redesign to slopes isn't possible at this point and a reproduction with different material (harder plastic) seems very unlikely to me.
And yes, they are making beys the wrong way. If a quality "pro" line up for $20 - $30 (yes, they are $30 over here) toys has significant quality issues, then they are clearly doing these products the wrong way.
(Apr. 03, 2021 12:29 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]A thing to note is that the beys they've released aren't even viable and/or outclassed in today's meta
ChoZ Valtryek - outclassed
ChoZ Achilles - outclassed
Orb Engaard - heavely outclassed
Zwei Luinor - might still have uses but still outclassed by Rage
Judgement Joker - may still have uses but still outclassed by Super, First and Brave
Perfect Phoenix - not sure if pP is still relevant so someone may need to answer that for me.
It's always felt more like a showcase of what was once meta that's slowly creeping up to TT.
That much being said, and since you asked, pP is still slightly relevant. This release also makes Engaard more relevant as a known counter to pP, but even then there's an increasing amount of ways to beat it without using that.
Got my hands on cho-z Achilles. Really disappointed with teeth wear. Now I don’t think Hasbro’s going to suddenly switch to slopes because it’s marketed as a more competitive line, but it’s really just supposed to be like TT, so I would like to think that Hasbro’s trying to make the teeth system better, but who knows.
I got the new Zwei Luinor pro series bey and I didnt see any teeth wear. As long as I used only pro series drivers and no parts from tt or main hasbro releases, the teeth were fine. I clicked it like 20 times for s sort of stress test and the teeth showed no signs of wear. My younger brother also just bought judgement joker and he didn't notice any teeth issues either. The thing is, when I first got my pro series cho-z valtryek, the teeth wore down on the first day. Rn, my zwei is not even getting a scratch. Also, I know that is a dead thread, I just wanted to inform people.