Bro the guys hating are literally saying “it’s illegal, but so what”. That’s like the same as saying robbery is illegal but let’s keep doing it. Lmao
Now in the traditional sense of streaming anime, I’m honestly fine with pirating anime, because let’s be honest your $10 Crunchyroll or funimation subscription won’t be feeding the people behind the shows you love. Instead you should buy the anime merch which does directly contribute to the series. So morally if you pirate, you better have a bigger toy collection than any of us. However that’s in the traditional sense of streaming anime, anime like naruto, one piece, my hero, black clover, but Beyblade burst is free guys.
It would be great if sunrights decided to make Beyblade be part of simulcasting where a new episode gets subbed instantly and is put on their channel like what Gundam does, but sunrights doesn’t seem to care about that. Then again Beyblade hardly seems to care about fans who watch the Japanese release or even older fans to an extent aside from the beytubers who do the bulk of the advertising for this series.
Overall, although I would normally be fine with piracy, but in this case where it’s not on a streaming service, I can not be fine with it. Please get a VPN to watch, you should have a VPN regardless of Beyblade episodes because of how the internet is and how anyone can get access to your data. Which leads me to my sponsor nord VP- just kidding.
TLDR; piracy okay when it’s on Funi and crunchy, piracy not okay when the company itself streams it, buy merchandise if you pirate, sunrights should look into making simulcasts, and finally get a VPN kids
(Oct. 16, 2020 1:39 PM)~Mana~ Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, I'd have said our news post the other day covers our reasons and motives for doing this. So let me break the specifics of the complaints down here.
Advance apologies if I come across a little abrasive here. As you can imagine, myself and the team have had to deal with enough backlash from this decision. We're a little bit tired.
(Oct. 16, 2020 11:26 AM)Limetka Wrote: [ -> ]What the hell is even the point of this website then? I didn't think the admins would be so stupid to kill literally the only things the forum was being used for LMAO.
Do you seriously think the site exists solely to promote piracy. Are you disregarding the amount of product, parts, testing, marketplace and fanfic discussion we get? Perhaps even the Competitive Play environment that we pride ourselves on so much?
To say that the WBO exists solely to promote the piracy of anime and manga is just inherently unfair and offensive to those who put the work in to maintain or contribute to it. While we love having everyone around and pride ourselves on being the place to be for Beyblade discussion; if you really don't like our platform, you are more than welcome to take a break or leave.
(Oct. 16, 2020 11:26 AM)Limetka Wrote: [ -> ]I was already appalled at you banning leaks but okay, in the end I don't really care about that stuff that much so whatever. But preventing Dranzer to post episodes as well? Are you serious? Do you never stream anime?
I do actually. I pay for streaming services and everything I watch is done legally, using legitimately endorsed services. If I can't watch something via those services (so if it's not available via Netflix, Prime Video, Crunchyroll or Funimation), I just don't watch it. It wasn't meant to be.
Do you stream anime and manga? Are you telling me that you solely do it illegally? While you might never get chased up for it, I can't emphasise enough that unofficial sources are indisputably piracy, and therefore illegal.
Do you also download or stream films illegitimately after they're released? Same principle. That breaks copyright and is therefore illegal.
If the principle of us upholding the law is appalling and pathetic to you, I think you need to think about this a bit deeper.
(Oct. 16, 2020 11:26 AM)Limetka Wrote: [ -> ]Best part is that there wasn't even any catalyst that would leave you no choice, you just decided on a whim. I guess you're trying to look professional by using inappropriate buzzwords ("please support the official release", LOL). How does forcing people buy a VPN to watch in on youtube support them?
We legally registered as a not-for-profit business late last year and we're slowly reading up on what is allowed, what isn't allowed. So yes, it has taken us time to reach this point and make the move, but I think the actions of certain businesses have definitely prompted this. It's easy to turn a blind eye, but when Takara-Tomy have indeed been going around taking down leakers (yes, not leaks. Individuals or sites that are hosting or spreading the leaks), that's really kinda difficult to ignore, no?
Fighting Spirits, the World Beyblade Organization; as staff, we have a huge responsibility to protect the organization and the community from the risk of any legal action happening. And quite frankly, as I said to some individuals in our Discord too; some of us are legally tied to the organization too. And I'm certainly not interested in taking the fall because people want to look at news a day early or want to watch Beyblade anime that is available for free online anyway illegally.
It's basic business sense. For 11 years, we didn't really think too much about any of this stuff. After being forced into registering as a legal entity last year, yes, obviously we have to care. This wasn't decided on a whim by any means, and it was legitimately an exceedingly difficult pill for us to swallow, albeit one that needed to be done.
"How does forcing people buy a VPN to watch in on youtube support them?" Again, I cannot stress enough that the Beyblade anime is available for free online. You don't pay to access it. And viewing via a VPN, if CoroCoro/TT do show advertisements, you'll see them and they'll actually get the financial support from it.
(Oct. 16, 2020 11:26 AM)Limetka Wrote: [ -> ]You're just making them wait an additional 10 hours for it to hit streaming sites. I like watching new episodes in the morning, so this really is nothing but a giant annoyance. Wow. Well done. Really great! Pat yourself and other mods on the back for a job well done!
Glad to hear that our attempt to prevent piracy is working! Thanks for your feedback, I'll give the staff team the good news!
(Oct. 16, 2020 11:45 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]I sorta understand, but at the same time banning RAW posting and potentially even the subs are possibly the worst decision they could EVER make
I get Japan us getting stricter, yeah yeah yeah, and you guys wanna be legally clear, but you’ve been doing this for so damn long and now you make this change?
That's a legitimate point, and obviously the precedent set for the past 11 years doesn't help with enforcing this point. But I think wanting to be legally clear is a good enough reason as any; bottom line, it is piracy and needed to be enforced at some point. Just now more than ever, it's certainly essential to do.
We're aware that this isn't and won't ever be a popular change. We've been fully prepared for the backlash on this decision, almost dreading it because we don't ever want to disappoint our community. But the fact of the matter is that leaving it untouched is essentially promoting illegal activity, and we certainly don't endorse that at all.
(Oct. 16, 2020 11:45 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]You guys have been fine, yeah it’s illegal, but it’s not our fault that good VPN’s are hard to get, even they they sometimes won’t work. My point is: you’ve been doing it for so long and have been fine, why stop now?
Again, "yeah it's illegal" is reason enough to enforce that. Did we really need another reason to do so? The law is typically a really good reason to either do or not do something, haha.
Good VPNs being hard to get isn't our fault either. And, while it's not exactly what I want to say, it's really not our problem either. The most we can do is point people in the right direction to do this legally, and if "use a VPN" is a message we need to send, that's what we need to do. If people have suggestions of VPNs for each other, please go for it and share what you guys think works! But whether your VPN works or doesn't work isn't the problem of our business; our focus is making sure that we're encouraging the legal option.
I have literally never paid for a game / movie in like 10 years.
I thought hacking like this wasn't illegal since no one is paying to see it. it looks like private and non-commercial use. but if its because we by pass the region lock, it can be recognize as illegal distribution, I think.
I'm sincerly sad of that but well we can have other streaming source to get them anyway.
Wait. Does that mean no more subs????!!!!!
(Oct. 16, 2020 2:55 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: [ -> ]Wait. Does that mean no more subs????!!!!!
If that's the case I will sub it myself.
(Oct. 16, 2020 2:58 PM)Limetka Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 16, 2020 2:55 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: [ -> ]Wait. Does that mean no more subs????!!!!!
If that's the case I will sub it myself.
Awesome! Will you be able to send it to us?
Would subs count tho, it’s not like you can get the subbed version legally, so are subs allowed?
(Oct. 16, 2020 3:06 PM)MDK Shady Wrote: [ -> ]Would subs count tho, it’s not like you can get the subbed version legally, so are subs allowed?
I mean aren't sites like Kissanime and Gogoanime that post subs considered legal? I am not completely sure, but if they were illegal they would have probably been taken down already.
(Oct. 16, 2020 3:09 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 16, 2020 3:06 PM)MDK Shady Wrote: [ -> ]Would subs count tho, it’s not like you can get the subbed version legally, so are subs allowed?
I mean aren't sites like Kissanime and Gogoanime that post subs considered legal? I am not completely sure, but if they were illegal they would have probably been taken down already.
They are very illegal, but for alot of people like myself, its the best we can do to watch anime
(Oct. 16, 2020 12:12 PM)Phengpegasus Wrote: [ -> ][/spoiler] Lol, And people thought Hyuga was going to go “dark Hyperion” or have some dark resonance. I can’t stop laughing. 🤡😂
oof I thought so too but marketing lol TT's prob running out of customers cause of covid so they had to kill off mah bois lol
(Oct. 16, 2020 2:55 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: [ -> ]Wait. Does that mean no more subs????!!!!!
(Oct. 16, 2020 3:06 PM)MDK Shady Wrote: [ -> ]Would subs count tho, it’s not like you can get the subbed version legally, so are subs allowed?
We've spoken with fansubbing groups that share via our platform (such as Hoshi-no-Yume, who have handled Burst and Bakuten) and they're clear on the restrictions and support them.
Scripts may be shared, but any files that include the media component of an episode (actual episode or chapter files) are not permitted on-site. We appreciate their work and always will (I was in HnY for a while after all), but we just don't want to create an "us-and-them" rule situation by saying those are okay when them including the media files is technically not legal either.
(Oct. 16, 2020 3:09 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: [ -> ]I mean aren't sites like Kissanime and Gogoanime that post subs considered legal? I am not completely sure, but if they were illegal they would have probably been taken down already.
No, they're about as illegal as you can get, haha. They throw adverts on and profit from both the pirated content and the work of unpaid fansubbing groups, haha.
(Oct. 16, 2020 3:11 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 16, 2020 3:09 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: [ -> ]I mean aren't sites like Kissanime and Gogoanime that post subs considered legal? I am not completely sure, but if they were illegal they would have probably been taken down already.
They are very illegal, but for alot of people like myself, its the best we can do to watch anime
Okay thanks for letting me know.
My review of this episode
Just another episode, that shows that Hikaru is an amazing brother, just like in a previous episode. He has tried to save his brother's bey and in a trial of doing this, he lost his bey. Even since he wasn't successful, he is still a hero. I can't understand people who like Lean. I don't mean disrespect to their opinion, but I can't see any reason to like him. I'm sorry for Hikaru and Hyuga for their beys being destroyed. And also, since Hikaru and Hyuga are evolving their Beyblades, it might be turn out bad for Legends, since having more powerful, new Beyblades, they will higher chance of defeating Valt Aoi and other Legends. I really hope Valt defeating Lean in the next episode to give a lesson to him, and as I understood from the trailer, injuring him.
This is the only way I watch Beyblade
(Oct. 16, 2020 4:20 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct. 16, 2020 3:11 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]They are very illegal, but for alot of people like myself, its the best we can do to watch anime
Okay thanks for letting me know.
You wont get in trouble for using the site though
Honestly, it was only a matter of time before this rule will eventually take place and whilst I understand people's frustrations on being unable to watch the new Beyblade Burst Sparking episodes every week via piracy/links, I can definitely see why this practice is banned here.
The staff are not obligated to pirate anime for everyone's consumption, at the expense of the legal issues they may potentially face. They could get into a lot of trouble, so this was probably the safest move. Do I still hope we can all eventually watch the rest of the upcoming Sparking episodes with no issues ahead? Of course, but let's just at least think about it from the staff's point of view.
And for the record, I'm also on the same boat as everyone else as I cannot watch the episodes now either, but honestly I can wait. The episodes aren't going away.
Search Episode 30 on YouTube and you will definitely find it.
(Oct. 16, 2020 1:46 PM)DranzerX13 Wrote: [ -> ]I am trying to add as many of you as I can that view these threads, so please be patient.
No more even mentioning PMs with the episodes please. I will say this once and once only. After that, no more in here, GOT IT?
You know you can upload the episode in nyaa right?
My only concern in this episode is lane's straps. WHY WOULD YOU RIP THEM?! They were my favorite inanimate characters.
It's a rip, but it had to happen. We had been watching it illegally and treating as a blessing, but I don't really mind if there's a greater restriction to it.
I still liked the episode a lot though.
You guys know VPNs are illegal as well. Circumventing region lock is illegal. Companies like Netflix, and Hulu have worked really hard to make software that senses if you're using a VPN or not. A lot of places will say it's a legal gray area, but streaming services have said lots of times that circumventing region lock is still illegal. I mean, it's not as bad as pirating episodes, cause you're still paying for the service, but that's what the companies still say. VPNs do have many legal uses, but getting past a region lock on places like Netflix and Hulu can get you banned if they catch you. Not sure about YouTube though since the content is free to begin with. They have region locking for a reason.
(Oct. 21, 2020 1:37 AM)DranzerX13 Wrote: [ -> ][font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]You guys know VPNs are illegal as well. Circumventing region lock is illegal. Companies like Netflix, and Hulu have worked really hard to make software that senses if you're using a VPN or not. A lot of places will say it's a legal gray area, but streaming services have said lots of times that circumventing region lock is still illegal. I mean, it's not as bad as pirating episodes, cause you're still paying for the service, but that's what the companies still say. VPNs do have many legal uses, but getting past a region lock on places like Netflix and Hulu can get you banned if they catch you. Not sure about YouTube though since the content is free to begin with. They have region locking for a reason.[/font]
welp thats a dud