Sep. 09, 2020 5:25 AM
but isn't unbanning Union's speed mode unnecessarily complex? I'm pretty sure is a strawman of an argument someone made before. I think it would be easy, just say "Union (Speed Mode)" instead of "Union" when listing layer unbans, and also just put in a thing in the rulebook in the same section that covers mG God Chip ruling, Bullet rulings, and Phoenix rulings to say that Union cannot use the Union Sword attachment. Having both that 'special ruling' part AND saying "Union (Speed Mode)" would eliminate confusion.
Also I really like Union so I did a ton of tests for it.
Same Spin Test
Union Achilles.Outer.Orbit Gen vs Twin Nemesis.Outer.Orbit
(Simultaneous launches)
UA.outer.O Gen: 2 wins (1 OS, 1 BF)
tN.outer.O: 8 wins (8 OS)
Ties: 0
Notes: That one burst was very surprising.
Opposite Spin Test
Union Achilles.Outer.Destroy Gen vs Drain Fafnir.Outer.Destroy'
(Simultaneous launches)
UA.outer.Ds Gen: 0 wins
dF.outer.Ds': 10 wins (10 OS)
Ties: 0
As a KO Attacker
Union Spriggan.00Bump.Xtreme' Gen vs Twin Nemesis.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.00B.X' Gen: 3 wins (3 BF)
tN.00P.At: 7 wins (7 OS)
Ties: 0
Notes: My X' is somewhat worn, so others may find better success with Union.
As an Anti-Attacker
Union Spriggan.00Bump.Unite Gen vs Z Achilles.00Bump.Xtreme'
(zA launched second)
US.00B.U Gen: 8 wins (7 OS, 1 KO)
zA.00B.X': 2 wins (1 OS, 1 KO)
Ties: 0
Notes: My X' is somewhat worn, so others may find better success with zA.
As a Mixed Attacker
This is the part where I have fun. I feel like I'm better using attack on Assault'.
Union Spriggan.Outer.Assault' Gen vs Twin Nemesis.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.outer.assault' Gen: 7 wins (1 OS, 1 KO, 5 BF)
tN.00P.At: 3 wins (3 OS)
Ties: 0
Union Spriggan.00Expand.Destroy' Gen vs Twin Nemesis.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.00E.Ds' Gen: 6 wins (2 OS, 1 KO, 3 BF)
tN.00P.At: 4 wins (2 OS, 2 KO)
Ties: 1
Union Spriggan.Outer.Assault' Gen vs Alter Chronos.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.outer.assault' Gen: 3 wins (1 OS, 1 KO, 1 BF)
aC.00P.At: 7 wins (7 OS)
Ties: 0
Union Spriggan.00Expand.Destroy' Gen vs Alter Chronos.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.00E.Ds' Gen: 5 wins (4 OS, 1 KO)
aC.00P.At: 5 wins (5 OS)
Ties: 0
Union Spriggan.Outer.Assault' Gen vs Shining Amaterios.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.outer.assault' Gen: 5 wins (5 OS)
sA.00P.At: 5 wins (5 OS)
Ties: 0
Union, for me at least, seems fairly good at being a mixed attacker. However, it definitely becomes more skill based when facing more defensive opponents. tN on Atomic is definitely vulnerable to bursting and aC is definitely lacks stamina, so perhaps something in between might just counter Union effectively. Though it should be noted that Union being launched second in all of these matches did give it a stamina advantage. Simultaneous launches just aren't possible due to needing a flower pattern. I think its an edge case right now, but should Shining/Shadow Amaterios not be banned, I would include it in GT layers to unban (with only Gen allowed). The only potential issue is lacking burst risk due to the Gen weight. That said, I felt Slash was also an edge case, but I could get that to work on X', so I feel, to counter my bias of liking Union, to be a bit skeptical of Union.
Also I really like Union so I did a ton of tests for it.
Same Spin Test
Union Achilles.Outer.Orbit Gen vs Twin Nemesis.Outer.Orbit
(Simultaneous launches)
UA.outer.O Gen: 2 wins (1 OS, 1 BF)
tN.outer.O: 8 wins (8 OS)
Ties: 0
Notes: That one burst was very surprising.
Opposite Spin Test
Union Achilles.Outer.Destroy Gen vs Drain Fafnir.Outer.Destroy'
(Simultaneous launches)
UA.outer.Ds Gen: 0 wins
dF.outer.Ds': 10 wins (10 OS)
Ties: 0
As a KO Attacker
Union Spriggan.00Bump.Xtreme' Gen vs Twin Nemesis.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.00B.X' Gen: 3 wins (3 BF)
tN.00P.At: 7 wins (7 OS)
Ties: 0
Notes: My X' is somewhat worn, so others may find better success with Union.
As an Anti-Attacker
Union Spriggan.00Bump.Unite Gen vs Z Achilles.00Bump.Xtreme'
(zA launched second)
US.00B.U Gen: 8 wins (7 OS, 1 KO)
zA.00B.X': 2 wins (1 OS, 1 KO)
Ties: 0
Notes: My X' is somewhat worn, so others may find better success with zA.
As a Mixed Attacker
This is the part where I have fun. I feel like I'm better using attack on Assault'.
Union Spriggan.Outer.Assault' Gen vs Twin Nemesis.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.outer.assault' Gen: 7 wins (1 OS, 1 KO, 5 BF)
tN.00P.At: 3 wins (3 OS)
Ties: 0
Union Spriggan.00Expand.Destroy' Gen vs Twin Nemesis.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.00E.Ds' Gen: 6 wins (2 OS, 1 KO, 3 BF)
tN.00P.At: 4 wins (2 OS, 2 KO)
Ties: 1
Union Spriggan.Outer.Assault' Gen vs Alter Chronos.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.outer.assault' Gen: 3 wins (1 OS, 1 KO, 1 BF)
aC.00P.At: 7 wins (7 OS)
Ties: 0
Union Spriggan.00Expand.Destroy' Gen vs Alter Chronos.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.00E.Ds' Gen: 5 wins (4 OS, 1 KO)
aC.00P.At: 5 wins (5 OS)
Ties: 0
Union Spriggan.Outer.Assault' Gen vs Shining Amaterios.00Proof.Atomic
(Union launched second)
US.outer.assault' Gen: 5 wins (5 OS)
sA.00P.At: 5 wins (5 OS)
Ties: 0
Union, for me at least, seems fairly good at being a mixed attacker. However, it definitely becomes more skill based when facing more defensive opponents. tN on Atomic is definitely vulnerable to bursting and aC is definitely lacks stamina, so perhaps something in between might just counter Union effectively. Though it should be noted that Union being launched second in all of these matches did give it a stamina advantage. Simultaneous launches just aren't possible due to needing a flower pattern. I think its an edge case right now, but should Shining/Shadow Amaterios not be banned, I would include it in GT layers to unban (with only Gen allowed). The only potential issue is lacking burst risk due to the Gen weight. That said, I felt Slash was also an edge case, but I could get that to work on X', so I feel, to counter my bias of liking Union, to be a bit skeptical of Union.