A testing and discussion thread for Spriggan Requiem in Limited format.
Now, I know what you all are probably thinking: "Spriggan Requiem is banned in limited, why would you open a testing thread for it?"
After a few tests, it seems that Spriggan Requiem wouldn't be too OP in Limited.
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Ul' (Sliding Shoot) VS Spriggan Requiem (Left, Weak) 5W Br. 10 rounds were done.
Z Achilles: 50% (2 KOs, 2 OS, 1 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 50% (5 OS)
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Qc' (Sliding Shoot) VS Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 100% (4 KOs, 4 OS, 2 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 0%
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Ds'(Tilt) VS Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 50% (2 BF, 2 KOs, 1 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 50% (3 OS, 2 KOs)
More tests coming soon.
Spriggan Requiem (Left Spin) 0Cross Orbit Metal (Odd) Vs Bloody Longinus Generate (Sliding Shoot and Even). I did ten rounds.
Results:
Spriggan Requiem: 50% (4 KO’s (Self KO’s and 1 KO) 1 OS)
Bloody Longinus: 50% (4 Burst’s 1 KO’s)
Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak) VS (MGC, Upper) Twin Nemesis 0E Ds'
Twin Nemesis: 90% (5 OS, 2 KOs, 2 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 10% (1 BF)
(Aug. 27, 2020 6:41 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ]A testing and discussion thread for Spriggan Requiem in Limited format.
Now, I know what you all are probably thinking: "Spriggan Requiem is banned in limited, why would you open a testing thread for it?"
After a few tests, it seems that Spriggan Requiem wouldn't be too OP in Limited.
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Ul' (Sliding Shoot) VS Spriggan Requiem (Left, Weak) 5W Br. 10 rounds were done.
Z Achilles: 50% (2 KOs, 2 OS, 1 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: (5 OS)
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Qc' (Sliding Shoot) VS Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 100% (4 KOs, 4 OS, 2 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 0%
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Ds'(Tilt) VS Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 50% (2 BF, 2 KOs, 1 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 50% (3 OS, 2 KOs)
More tests coming soon.
If you wanna unban Spriggan Requiem, unban Winning Valkyrie.
(Aug. 27, 2020 8:14 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 27, 2020 6:41 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ]A testing and discussion thread for Spriggan Requiem in Limited format.
Now, I know what you all are probably thinking: "Spriggan Requiem is banned in limited, why would you open a testing thread for it?"
After a few tests, it seems that Spriggan Requiem wouldn't be too OP in Limited.
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Ul' (Sliding Shoot) VS Spriggan Requiem (Left, Weak) 5W Br. 10 rounds were done.
Z Achilles: 50% (2 KOs, 2 OS, 1 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: (5 OS)
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Qc' (Sliding Shoot) VS Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 100% (4 KOs, 4 OS, 2 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 0%
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Ds'(Tilt) VS Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 50% (2 BF, 2 KOs, 1 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 50% (3 OS, 2 KOs)
More tests coming soon.
If you wanna unban Spriggan Requiem, unban Winning Valkyrie.
Do our tests not show that Spriggan Requiem is not OP? This thing is probably very good for Limited yes, but definitely counterable to the point where it could be unbanned. We gotta do more testing though, but so far it’s not looking to be too OP.
(Aug. 27, 2020 8:14 PM)g2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 27, 2020 6:41 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ]A testing and discussion thread for Spriggan Requiem in Limited format.
Now, I know what you all are probably thinking: "Spriggan Requiem is banned in limited, why would you open a testing thread for it?"
After a few tests, it seems that Spriggan Requiem wouldn't be too OP in Limited.
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Ul' (Sliding Shoot) VS Spriggan Requiem (Left, Weak) 5W Br. 10 rounds were done.
Z Achilles: 50% (2 KOs, 2 OS, 1 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: (5 OS)
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Qc' (Sliding Shoot) VS Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 100% (4 KOs, 4 OS, 2 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 0%
This test was done by
Z Achilles 00E Ds'(Tilt) VS Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 50% (2 BF, 2 KOs, 1 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 50% (3 OS, 2 KOs)
More tests coming soon.
If you wanna unban Spriggan Requiem, unban Winning Valkyrie.
No, we couldn’t really do that. Winning Valkyrie is far too good of an attack type to warrant an unban
Spriggan Requiem 0 Revolve (Odd) Vs Arc Bahamut 0 Revolve (Even). I did ten rounds.
Results:
Spriggan Requiem: 20% (2 OS’)
Arc Bahamut: 80% (8 OS’)
I did a unofficial test round switching the Revolve drivers. Arc Bahamut still won.
Try it on a Bearing combo against a few right spin combos.
Can someone do Spriggan Requiem 0Bump Atomic (Left) vs Shining Amaterios Generate
(MGC, Upper) tN 0E Ds' VS Sr 7C Rs (Left, Moderate)
Twin Nemesis: 80%( 5 OS, 2 KOs, 1 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 20% (2 OS)
(MGC, Upper) tN 0E Ds' VS Sr 7C Ab (Left, Moderate)
Twin Nemesis: 90% ( 7 OS, 1 KO, 1 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 10% (1 OS)
(MGC, Upper) tN 0E Ds' VS Sr 7C Mb (Left, Moderate)
Twin Nemesis: 100% ( 9 OS, 1 KO)
Spriggan Requiem: 0%
zA 00E Ul' VS Sr 0C Ds' (Left, Moderate)
Z Achilles: 80% (5 KOs, 3 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 20% (1 KO, 1 OS)
aH4 0C Ab-S (Battle Ring Mode) VS Sr 0E Ds' (Left, Moderate)
Hercules H4: 50% (5 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 50% (5 OS)
aH4 0B Octa VS Sr 0E Ds' (Left, Moderate)
Hercules H4: 90% (9 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 10% (1 OS)
(MGC, Upper) tN 0E A' VS Sr 5W Br (Left, Weak)
Twin Nemesis: 50% ( 4 OS, 1 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 50% ( 4 OS, 1 BF)
zA 00E A' VS Sr 5W br (Left, Weak)
Z Achilles: 70% ( 4 OS, 2 BF, 1 KO)
Spriggan Requiem: 30% (3 OS)
(MGC) dF 7 Ds VS Sr 7 Ds' (Right, Moderate)
Drain Fafnir: 80% (8 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 20% (2 OS)
These tests took 2 hours in total, hope y'all enjoy.
(Aug. 27, 2020 9:20 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]Can someone do Spriggan Requiem 0Bump Atomic (Left) vs Shining Amaterios Generate
Spriggan Requiem 0Bump Atomic (Left Spin) Vs Shining Amaterios Generate. I did ten rounds.
Results:
Spriggan Requiem: 40% (1 KO 3 OS‘)
Shining Amaterios: 60% (3 KO’s 1 Burst 2 OS’)
try Spriggan Requiem 00 atomic against Geist Fafnir 0 cross ratchet.
(Aug. 27, 2020 10:03 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]try Spriggan Requiem 00 atomic against Geist Fafnir 0 cross ratchet.
You mean Rise? Ratchet is a disc.
(Aug. 27, 2020 10:05 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 27, 2020 10:03 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]try Spriggan Requiem 00 atomic against Geist Fafnir 0 cross ratchet.
You mean Rise? Ratchet is a disc.
Oh yeah rise my bad there’s so many parts it’s easy to get them confused
Legend Spriggan 2 Bump Charge' vs Spriggan Requim 0 Cross Bearing
(Aug. 27, 2020 7:01 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ]Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak) VS (MGC, Upper) Twin Nemesis 0E Ds'
Twin Nemesis: 90% (5 OS, 2 KOs, 2 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 10% (1 BF)
These results were somewhat surprising in terms of the OS. I tried it out. While I can see tN draw Sr occasionally, I did not see it win personally.
https://youtu.be/yXVlkpLzf3U
(Aug. 27, 2020 10:55 PM)Shindog Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 27, 2020 7:01 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ]Spriggan Requiem 5W Br (Left, Weak) VS (MGC, Upper) Twin Nemesis 0E Ds'
Twin Nemesis: 90% (5 OS, 2 KOs, 2 BF)
Spriggan Requiem: 10% (1 BF)
These results were somewhat surprising in terms of the OS. I tried it out. While I can see tN draw Sr occasionally, I did not see it win personally.
https://youtu.be/yXVlkpLzf3U
When I did that test, tN would hit Sr incredibly hard, and Sr would lose most of its spin. tN would then stall on the tornado ridge and win by OS.
(Aug. 27, 2020 11:09 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 27, 2020 10:55 PM)Shindog Wrote: [ -> ]These results were somewhat surprising in terms of the OS. I tried it out. While I can see tN draw Sr occasionally, I did not see it win personally.
https://youtu.be/yXVlkpLzf3U
When I did that test, tN would hit Sr incredibly hard, and Sr would lose most of its spin. tN would then stall on the tornado ridge and win by OS.
I see. But wouldn’t a hard hit speed up Sr a bit as well? How well does your Ds’ tornado stall? It would have to stall for quite a while I think.
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]aH4 0B Octa VS Sr 0E Ds' (Left, Moderate)[/font]
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Hercules H4: 90% (9 OS)[/font]
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Spriggan Requiem: 10% (1 OS)[/font]
[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Also curious how this match played out. Did Octa tornado stall? [/font]
(Aug. 27, 2020 11:15 PM)Shindog Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 27, 2020 11:09 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ]When I did that test, tN would hit Sr incredibly hard, and Sr would lose most of its spin. tN would then stall on the tornado ridge and win by OS.
I see. But wouldn’t a hard hit speed up Sr a bit as well? How well does your Ds’ tornado stall? It would have to stall for quite a while I think.
It hasn't been used much, so it's pretty good at stalling. Sr wouldn't have much spin left from the soft launch, and it typically didn't gain much spin from the initial hit, so it was fairly easy to OS.
(Aug. 27, 2020 11:24 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 27, 2020 11:15 PM)Shindog Wrote: [ -> ]I see. But wouldn’t a hard hit speed up Sr a bit as well? How well does your Ds’ tornado stall? It would have to stall for quite a while I think.
It hasn't been used much, so it's pretty good at stalling. Sr wouldn't have much spin left from the soft launch, and it typically didn't gain much spin from the initial hit, so it was fairly easy to OS.
So then why soft launch it? I mean, surely in a real-life match, the person would be smart enough to realize it wasn’t working, and launch a bit harder.
I dunno, a lot of these tests seem a bit wack.
Test done by #Fafnir (He’s having internet issues right now):
Spriggan Requiem (Left Spin) 7 Revolve Vs. Guardian Kerbeus (MGC) 7 Revolve. Ten rounds were done.
Results:
Spriggan Requiem: 30% (3 OS’)
Guardian Kerbeus: 70% (7 OS’)
dF.Outer.Ds'/Ds vs Sr.Outer.Ds/Ds' (Right Spin)
(I swapped drivers after 5 non-tie rounds) (Both beys were soft launched)
Drain Fafnir: 3 wins (3 OS)
Spriggan Requiem: 7 wins (7 OS)
Ties: 2
Notes: Drain was the only layer to show signs of unlocking, which is when it had the normal Destroy driver.
yeah I have no idea where Requiem loses in LAD is coming from.
(Aug. 28, 2020 12:03 AM)Shindog Wrote: [ -> ]I also tested aH4.0B.Octa vs (left)Sr.0E.Ds’.
I can’t really get aH4 to win. It can draw, maybe. I used a brand new Octa and tried to tornado stall, and I am unable to do it.
https://youtu.be/-TRAmOPSLDc
https://youtu.be/x4E_1wPcU3k
Sorry for the late response.
My Hasbro Octa is pretty worn, so the LAD is a bit better than a new one.
The Out-Spins in that test were close though.
Here are a few other tests:
(Left) Sr 7 R VS (MGC, Balance) aC 7 R
Sr: 70% (7 OS)
aC: 30% (3 OS)
(Right, Weak) Sr 5W Br VS ZL5 00E X
ZL5: 80% (7 KOs, 1 BF)
Sr: 20% (1 OS, 1 BF)
(Right, Weak) Sr 5W Br VS ZL5 00E V (Worn)
ZL5: 70% (4 KOs, 3 BF)
Sr: 30% (2 OS, 1 BF)
(Aug. 27, 2020 11:41 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 27, 2020 11:24 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ]It hasn't been used much, so it's pretty good at stalling. Sr wouldn't have much spin left from the soft launch, and it typically didn't gain much spin from the initial hit, so it was fairly easy to OS.
So then why soft launch it? I mean, surely in a real-life match, the person would be smart enough to realize it wasn’t working, and launch a bit harder.
I dunno, a lot of these tests seem a bit wack.
I tried launching it a little harder, that's where the two bursts came from. I'd rather lose by OS than by BF for obvious reasons.
I'm not the only one getting these results,
is as well.
(Aug. 28, 2020 1:14 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not the only one getting these results, is as well.
Uh, no I’m not. I don’t have aH4 or a Hasbro Octa.