(Jan. 16, 2021 12:20 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]I'm going to once again have to take back my statement about the Just driver having auto change, as I do not see any. It's a stationary sharp tip with a free spinning ring. The sharp tip is DISGUSTINGLY pointy. It's not Survive driver, it's more akin to the Sharp bottom from MFB but much taller. It looks like the Sharp base from the old gen blade bases. What were they thinking? I'm interested to see how it performs but I don't think I have much hope. The ring looks too tall to contact the floor sufficiently. I kinda like it weirdly enough.
The Jet Wyvern layer is as expected, it's super cool and has a really nice gimmick, far advancing the simple free spinning gimmick idea. It's really nice. While I'm unsure of it's competitive use, it is a nice idea and looks great.
Actually I'm not so disgusted with the sharp point.
To me, Just = Prevail + Universe. Just doesn't look as Sharp as like Unworn Needle for example. Well I was Apprehensive about Prevail but I was told it's good on Expand so Just good possibly e good with a good forge disc.
In my Opinion, the outer free Spinning ring is at the Ideal angle for LAD, maybe it looks diff to you cos you might be looking at the wrong angle. But I also may be at the wrong conclusion.
Just my thoughts on this
Let me get this out of the way, Jet Wyvern looks absolutely amazing here! The official renders for it already look really cool, so seeing it in real life is pretty neat! The gimmick is also pretty cool too, being a lot cooler than I had first expected when I heard it was going to be like the Ratchet Disc. The Jet Ring being a slight bit rounder than tW, combined with the free-spinning gimmick may give it some pretty good defense when used with the right combo.
However, the Driver is an oddball for me. I usually say that we shouldn't judge a bey until it's released and I still stand by that mentality, but man the Just Driver has one tall and very pointy tip which is rather concerning. The Just Driver is actually closer to SG Sharp from the original series and whilst that solves the potential issue of remaking an old bey that had a pointy tip (like Draciel V2 or Guardian Revizer), it's a bit sad that the tip isn't at least a thin but rounded shaft like the Bullet Driver.
I also don't see the free-spinning ring on the Driver being able to enough contact with the stadium floor to recover the bey, due to how tall the sharp tip is and how high the ring is elevated.
that driver is terrible yikes
Murasaki labs ran out of ideas
The Around disk looks very nice in purple, should go nicely with my rare 1D.
Just... I can see why people said it resembled a Blade Base, haha. Sadly, I've had enough experience with Sharp tips in MFB (MS, ES, etc) to say that I doubt Just will be competitive. It looks fun, and will probably have some interesting performance, but that sharp tip is just begging to be knocked over. I'm curious to see what its performance will be like when the tip is worn down...
As for Jet, it's nice to see that we were correct about it having rubber. The gimmick is interesting, if it works properly it could be quite good, although with the shape I am worried that it'll be especially weak against left-spin KO attackers like Rage, if they can land a good hit on the inside of those hooks. I imagine it will be fairly heavy, considering most layers with built-in gimmicks tend to be rather heavy (Tempest, Brave, etc).
I think it might be a mirage/Rage3A counter thanks to spin stealing, some people will probably put on their deck just to counter left spins
Stop where my comment. I send to you Wakiya in anime style
(Jan. 16, 2021 12:14 AM)matmat30 Wrote: [ -> ]
Я публикую сегодня вечером перед этим видео, утечка информации о новом Wywron в аниме. Но это отчаяние
Stop. It seems that my leak got deleted there
(Jan. 16, 2021 9:19 AM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: [ -> ]Stop where my comment. I send to you Wakiya in anime style
(Jan. 16, 2021 12:14 AM)matmat30 Wrote: [ -> ]
Stop. It seems that my leak got deleted there
Leaks aren't allowed here
This video have Longinus stock vs Wyvern stock,wyvern barely outspin rage,so i don't have high hope for the just driver,but it sure look cool,the whole stock combo of wyvern look cool
(Jan. 16, 2021 10:36 AM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: [ -> ]This video have Longinus stock vs Wyvern stock,wyvern barely outspin rage,so i don't have high hope for the just driver,but it sure look cool,the whole stock combo of wyvern look cool
Well actually, I don't think there are that many beys that can out spin it at all, since it has Ds'
(Jan. 16, 2021 10:36 AM)Кербеус Wrote: [ -> ]В этом видео есть запасы Longinus и Wyvern, виверна едва ли справляется с яростью, так что я не очень надеюсь на справедливого водителя, но это определенно выглядит круто, вся комбинация акций виверны выглядит круто
Я думаю, это будет плохой бей. Думал, Dash arena - мусор, это useless, and 1D chassis not feat it
(Jan. 16, 2021 9:27 AM)Жажда Скорости Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 16, 2021 9:19 AM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: [ -> ]Остановись где мой комментарий. Отправляю вам вакию в стиле аниме
Стоп. Кажется, мою утечку там удалили
Утечки здесь не допускаются
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Kinda sad, that this happened. But I am not sad. Because I give peoples look on Wywron, and on CGI version of Wywron
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(Jan. 16, 2021 9:27 AM)Жажда Скорости Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 16, 2021 9:19 AM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: [ -> ]Остановись где мой комментарий. Отправляю вам вакию в стиле аниме
Стоп. Кажется, мою утечку там удалили
Утечки здесь не допускаются
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, you are a Jojo fan? Cause your avatar is Gyro Zeppeli
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does anyone have the official takara tomy vid? cant find it on yt
(Jan. 16, 2021 8:19 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: [ -> ]does anyone have the official takara tomy vid? cant find it on yt
here
(Jan. 16, 2021 12:14 AM)matmat30 Wrote: [ -> ]
Actually honestly Just may be good like once it wears. Look at the match against rage, it was so unstable, then it won destroy'. Maybe After it wears it may be good. I'd just put it on Around for lad
Hmmmm... I'm a bit suspicious over that Corocoro video of Jet Wyvern.
Firstly, Corocoro videos will nearly always stage the new bey to win, with rare exceptions.
Secondly, it could be just me, but that Rage Longinus does not act like it has a Destroy' driver. When it wobbles, it just immediately hits the ground as if there's no dish. I have a Rage Longinus and the Destroy' dish is easily capable of touching the floor even on stock combo. They also never ever show the driver for Longinus, which makes it feel more suspicious. You could argue that Wyvern is just good, but when it came to the wobbling part, Longinus couldn't have been using Destroy'. And the movements feel... kinda off.
(Jan. 17, 2021 10:17 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]Hmmmm... I'm a bit suspicious over that Corocoro video of Jet Wyvern.
Firstly, Corocoro videos will nearly always stage the new bey to win, with rare exceptions.
Secondly, it could be just me, but that Rage Longinus does not act like it has a Destroy' driver. When it wobbles, it just immediately hits the ground as if there's no dish. I have a Rage Longinus and the Destroy' dish is easily capable of touching the floor even on stock combo. They also never ever show the driver for Longinus, which makes it feel more suspicious. You could argue that Wyvern is just good, but when it came to the wobbling part, Longinus couldn't have been using Destroy'. And the movements feel... kinda off.
Yeah, it's obviously not Destroy. Destroy is not that fast at the beggining and would not lose to such a sharp tip as Just when it comes to LAD. Based on how it moves I would guess it's Xtreme / Hunter.
(Jan. 17, 2021 12:19 PM)Limetka Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 17, 2021 10:17 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]Hmmmm... I'm a bit suspicious over that Corocoro video of Jet Wyvern.
Firstly, Corocoro videos will nearly always stage the new bey to win, with rare exceptions.
Secondly, it could be just me, but that Rage Longinus does not act like it has a Destroy' driver. When it wobbles, it just immediately hits the ground as if there's no dish. I have a Rage Longinus and the Destroy' dish is easily capable of touching the floor even on stock combo. They also never ever show the driver for Longinus, which makes it feel more suspicious. You could argue that Wyvern is just good, but when it came to the wobbling part, Longinus couldn't have been using Destroy'. And the movements feel... kinda off.
Yeah, it's obviously not Destroy. Destroy is not that fast at the beggining and would not lose to such a sharp tip as Just when it comes to LAD. Based on how it moves I would guess it's Xtreme / Hunter.
Yeah my guess was also Hunter, which has no LAD qualities and isn't super fast.
(Jan. 17, 2021 10:17 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]Hmmmm... I'm a bit suspicious over that Corocoro video of Jet Wyvern.
Firstly, Corocoro videos will nearly always stage the new bey to win, with rare exceptions.
Secondly, it could be just me, but that Rage Longinus does not act like it has a Destroy' driver. When it wobbles, it just immediately hits the ground as if there's no dish. I have a Rage Longinus and the Destroy' dish is easily capable of touching the floor even on stock combo. They also never ever show the driver for Longinus, which makes it feel more suspicious. You could argue that Wyvern is just good, but when it came to the wobbling part, Longinus couldn't have been using Destroy'. And the movements feel... kinda off.
I think another factor too is using the Dash Stadium since it already puts attack beys at a disadvantage, I'm pretty sure that the Just tip doesn't have crazy stamina at all since the main beys it was pitted against for TT was Death/Abyss which don't have tips that have good stamina.
For Rage I could be wrong but it looks like they gave it X' or something, because the more I rewatch I agree that the outspin does not look right on Rage
Gonna be honest, I saw Just driver being terribly easily destabilized because of how high and sharp that shaft is (similar situation to that with Edge), but still hoped that it's not that high to the rate free-spinning ring won't help it save stamina, JUST to have my hopes by this video) (watch how fast Wyvern stopped after losing balance)
https://youtu.be/VJ9MHywwUek
I think it is sharp to the free spinning ring (on just obviously) touch the ground when angled. But let's see if it is that bad when we have this on our hands and on a basic arena.
(Jan. 17, 2021 6:47 PM)originalzankye Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 17, 2021 10:17 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]Hmmmm... I'm a bit suspicious over that Corocoro video of Jet Wyvern.
Firstly, Corocoro videos will nearly always stage the new bey to win, with rare exceptions.
Secondly, it could be just me, but that Rage Longinus does not act like it has a Destroy' driver. When it wobbles, it just immediately hits the ground as if there's no dish. I have a Rage Longinus and the Destroy' dish is easily capable of touching the floor even on stock combo. They also never ever show the driver for Longinus, which makes it feel more suspicious. You could argue that Wyvern is just good, but when it came to the wobbling part, Longinus couldn't have been using Destroy'. And the movements feel... kinda off.
I think another factor too is using the Dash Stadium since it already puts attack beys at a disadvantage, I'm pretty sure that the Just tip doesn't have crazy stamina at all since the main beys it was pitted against for TT was Death/Abyss which don't have tips that have good stamina.
For Rage I could be wrong but it looks like they gave it X' or something, because the more I rewatch I agree that the outspin does not look right on Rage
Wonder why they didn't just put it against Abyss Diabolos or something similar
(Jan. 17, 2021 6:47 PM)originalzankye Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 17, 2021 10:17 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]Hmmmm... I'm a bit suspicious over that Corocoro video of Jet Wyvern.
Firstly, Corocoro videos will nearly always stage the new bey to win, with rare exceptions.
Secondly, it could be just me, but that Rage Longinus does not act like it has a Destroy' driver. When it wobbles, it just immediately hits the ground as if there's no dish. I have a Rage Longinus and the Destroy' dish is easily capable of touching the floor even on stock combo. They also never ever show the driver for Longinus, which makes it feel more suspicious. You could argue that Wyvern is just good, but when it came to the wobbling part, Longinus couldn't have been using Destroy'. And the movements feel... kinda off.
I think another factor too is using the Dash Stadium since it already puts attack beys at a disadvantage, I'm pretty sure that the Just tip doesn't have crazy stamina at all since the main beys it was pitted against for TT was Death/Abyss which don't have tips that have good stamina.
For Rage I could be wrong but it looks like they gave it X' or something, because the more I rewatch I agree that the outspin does not look right on Rage
I agree, the stadium as well isn't that good, and certainly seems to put attack types at a disadvantage. Wyvern has less issues only because it's so stationary, which is part of the point (no pun intended), but I wish it was the normal stadium they used.
And yeah, from what I can tell, stock Death Diabolos is not good in same spin, and stock Abyss Diabolos has bad LAD thanks to Fusion', although funny enough Abyss got K.O'ed, so I wonder if it could even beat Fusion' in LAD.
X' is possible because of the low stamina, my guess is Hunter/Hunter' due to the lesser speed and the smaller tip would give it no LAD.
I still have hopes for the Js driver. It has a free spinning guard piece, it can't be THAT bad.
It looks like Js isn't tall and/or wide enough to prevent the Ar disk from scraping. So far in every video I've seen for Jet Wyvern that seems to be the case.
The Jet ring so far seems like it'll just be another "nice to have" part. But it still looks cool! lol
I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to post this video of Jet Wyvern or not (if not, then I will remove the video link from the post), but here's T CLUB's review of Jet Wyvern.
Looking at it during it's battle against Super Hyperion, their launch for Hyperion was a lot weaker than Jet Wyvern and even with that in mind, Wyvern barely outspun it because it tilts too easily. If Js really is that bad (not saying it is, yet), then I'll just switch the Wyvern combo with an At Driver instead.
EDIT: Oh wait, I was beaten lol.
The driver seems like a total train wreck. Who’s idea was it to put a super sharp tip on a defensively oriented part anyways.