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Link to the B-176 Hollow Deathcysther flyer scans plz?

The ring and chip can’t be the only new parts. At least one other thing has to be new and I assume that it will be the driver like said. I suppose that you could argue that infinite Achilles only had its ring and chip as its new parts but it has attachments as well.

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:29 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:17 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]Aw dude, yes! Heck yeah! I'm hyped! And rightfully so, since Wakiya's role is big enough in both the anime and the manga to justify getting a new Wyvern. A new Phoenix would've been cool too but Perfect Phoenix is already still pretty strong (as far as I know anyway), and I would've also really liked Kerbeus but unfortunately, Kensuke isn't a Legendary Blader.

I agree with most stuff except the fact that there's a very good chance Wyvron won't be appearing in the anime since we know episode 42 is called "Burn Flare!" Meaning it has to do with Lain, Hikaru, or Hyuga, the most important characters in the Season. This justifies spending a few more episodes on a mini arc, and there's 3 episodes left in the month. There's no reason to debut Wyvron after January, so Wyvron appearing is just not likely at all. Even if episode 42 is about Valt getting flare or someone else getting flare, that's surprising and infinitely more important than Wakiya.

There is still a chance he'll appear in the manga with the new Wyvern, I mean he's considered a Legendary Blader there. I don't think he'll participate in many (if any) tournaments, but perhaps he trains them like Shu did with Aiga in Cho-Z.

Plus, Wyvern is a Booster release and usually (in Sparking anyway), they appear in the anime as well. Not to mention that since Infinite Achilles appeared in August in the anime, months before it's actual release debut (October), maybe Wyvern appears in the next episode and is used to train the Asahi brothers. And if Wyvern does maintain its free-spinning gimmick, he could be used to prepare the brothers since Lucifer also has a free-spinning gimmick.

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:46 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:29 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with most stuff except the fact that there's a very good chance Wyvron won't be appearing in the anime since we know episode 42 is called "Burn Flare!" Meaning it has to do with Lain, Hikaru, or Hyuga, the most important characters in the Season. This justifies spending a few more episodes on a mini arc, and there's 3 episodes left in the month. There's no reason to debut Wyvron after January, so Wyvron appearing is just not likely at all. Even if episode 42 is about Valt getting flare or someone else getting flare, that's surprising and infinitely more important than Wakiya.

There is still a chance he'll appear in the manga with the new Wyvern, I mean he's considered a Legendary Blader there. I don't think he'll participate in many (if any) tournaments, but perhaps he trains them like Shu did with Aiga in Cho-Z.

Plus, Wyvern is a Booster release and usually (in Sparking anyway), they appear in the anime as well. Not to mention that since Infinite Achilles appeared in August in the anime, months before it's actual release debut (October), maybe Wyvern appears in the next episode and is used to train the Asahi brothers. And if Wyvern does maintain its free-spinning gimmick, he could be used to prepare the brothers since Lucifer also has a free-spinning gimmick.

I assume that it will have its free spin gimmick. Perhaps I could be wrong because yes, Deathscyther had a new gimmick but I honestly believe that they only removed double strike because it was arguably the worst/most useless gimmick ever produced by the burst era. Wyvern’s gimmick on the other hand works perfectly and is an all time favourite (it’s even my favourite gimmick) so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was back.

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:46 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:29 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with most stuff except the fact that there's a very good chance Wyvron won't be appearing in the anime since we know episode 42 is called "Burn Flare!" Meaning it has to do with Lain, Hikaru, or Hyuga, the most important characters in the Season. This justifies spending a few more episodes on a mini arc, and there's 3 episodes left in the month. There's no reason to debut Wyvron after January, so Wyvron appearing is just not likely at all. Even if episode 42 is about Valt getting flare or someone else getting flare, that's surprising and infinitely more important than Wakiya.

There is still a chance he'll appear in the manga with the new Wyvern, I mean he's considered a Legendary Blader there. I don't think he'll participate in many (if any) tournaments, but perhaps he trains them like Shu did with Aiga in Cho-Z.

Plus, Wyvern is a Booster release and usually (in Sparking anyway), they appear in the anime as well. Not to mention that since Infinite Achilles appeared in August in the anime, months before it's actual release debut (October), maybe Wyvern appears in the next episode and is used to train the Asahi brothers. And if Wyvern does maintain its free-spinning gimmick, he could be used to prepare the brothers since Lucifer also has a free-spinning gimmick.

The manga yeah probably. Second they could just be putting it in a booster for it to seem more important, and Wyvron is probably popular enough to justify it. Third the Achilles incident was due to COVID-19 mixing g up who debuted and released first between Spryzen and Achilles, with Spryzen debuting in the manga and Achilles in the anime.

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(Dec. 20, 2020  12:46 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:29 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with most stuff except the fact that there's a very good chance Wyvron won't be appearing in the anime since we know episode 42 is called "Burn Flare!" Meaning it has to do with Lain, Hikaru, or Hyuga, the most important characters in the Season. This justifies spending a few more episodes on a mini arc, and there's 3 episodes left in the month. There's no reason to debut Wyvron after January, so Wyvron appearing is just not likely at all. Even if episode 42 is about Valt getting flare or someone else getting flare, that's surprising and infinitely more important than Wakiya.

There is still a chance he'll appear in the manga with the new Wyvern, I mean he's considered a Legendary Blader there. I don't think he'll participate in many (if any) tournaments, but perhaps he trains them like Shu did with Aiga in Cho-Z.

Plus, Wyvern is a Booster release and usually (in Sparking anyway), they appear in the anime as well. Not to mention that since Infinite Achilles appeared in August in the anime, months before it's actual release debut (October), maybe Wyvern appears in the next episode and is used to train the Asahi brothers. And if Wyvern does maintain its free-spinning gimmick, he could be used to prepare the brothers since Lucifer also has a free-spinning gimmick.

Also if Wyvron was appearing the name and preview would definitely show it.

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:51 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]The manga yeah probably. Second they could just be putting it in a booster for it to seem more important, and Wyvron is probably popular enough to justify it. Third the Achilles incident was due to COVID-19 mixing g up who debuted and released first between Spryzen and Achilles, with Spryzen debuting in the manga and Achilles in the anime.

Fair enough with the Infinite Achilles stuff, since the releases were affected by COVID-19. However, both Brave Valkyrie and Curse Satan also appeared in the anime before they were released as products, and people didn't even know what the Universe Driver was until the Sparking anime's debut showed it (most people assumed it was Yard Metal before that) and unlike Infinite Achilles, had nothing to do with releases mixing up.

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:50 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I assume that it will have its free spin gimmick. Perhaps I could be wrong because yes, Deathscyther had a new gimmick but I honestly believe that they only removed double strike because it was arguably the worst/most useless gimmick ever produced by burst era. Wyvern’s gimmick on the other hand works perfectly and is an all time favourite (it’s even my favourite gimmick) so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was back.

I wonder what else they would use, if not a free-spinning gimmick. It would make sense since the brothers have to train in preparation of racing Lucifer (which also has a free-spinning gimmick) and since Wakiya isn't participating in the tournaments, he could train them using his own defensive bey.

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:56 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:51 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]The manga yeah probably. Second they could just be putting it in a booster for it to seem more important, and Wyvron is probably popular enough to justify it. Third the Achilles incident was due to COVID-19 mixing g up who debuted and released first between Spryzen and Achilles, with Spryzen debuting in the manga and Achilles in the anime.

Fair enough with the Infinite Achilles stuff, since the releases were affected by COVID-19. However, both Brave Valkyrie and Curse Satan also appeared in the anime before they were released as products, and people didn't even know what the Universe Driver was until the Sparking anime's debut showed it (most people assumed it was Yard Metal) and unlike Infinite Achilles, had nothing to do with releases mixing up.

Brave and Curse appeared in their release month though, which happened to coincide with the month the anime released so they just threw em in.

the description flying dragon defently fits wyvern which is very cool so I guess it's going to keep the free spinning gimmick , the 2b on spriggan is free spin when you fix it while the end limit break needs to activate for the free spin to work.  so wyvern will just be the ring will always be free spinning .  3 beys free spinning but each work differently.  so I guess their gonna slap 1D .hurricane and atomic metal or reuse orbit metal again or a new driver .  should be fun

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:58 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]the description flying dragon defently fits wyvern which is very cool so I guess it's going to keep the free spinning gimmick , the 2b on spriggan is free spin when you fix it while the end limit break needs to activate for the free spin to work.  so wyvern will just be the ring will always be free spinning .  3 beys free spinning but each work differently.  so I guess their gonna slap 1D .hurricane and atomic metal or reuse orbit metal again or a new driver .  should be fun

I don’t think a chassis gimmick would be the equivalent of a ring gimmick and as you said limit break the end is its own thing so it seems fine to me.

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:57 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Brave and Curse appeared in their release month though, which happened to coincide with the month the anime released so they just threw em in.

Yeah, but nobody knew what Driver Satan had until the anime showed it. Of course, images of Curse did appear around the same time as the anime debut but the parts were kept hidden until the anime showed them in their debut (before actual images of Curse Satan's parts surfaced).

Now you could argue that it's not the same thing, but it does still show that the Sparking anime can reveal what some releases look like before their actual release debut. I still think it's possible for the anime to reveal Wyvern before they do on magazine leaks, but that isn't me saying they definitely will. That's just me saying it's a possibility.

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:07 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:57 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Brave and Curse appeared in their release month though, which happened to coincide with the month the anime released so they just threw em in.

Yeah, but nobody knew what Driver Satan had until the anime showed it. Of course, images of Curse did appear around the same time as the anime debut but the parts were kept hidden until the anime showed them in their debut (before actual images of Curse Satan's parts surfaced).

Now you could argue that it's not the same thing, but it does still show that the Sparking anime can reveal what some releases look like before their actual release debut. I still think it's possible for the anime to reveal Wyvern before they do on magazine leaks, but that isn't me saying they definitely will. That's just me saying it's a possibility.

That doesn’t happen often though, and they have more important things to do than show a Wyvron when we’re on the final tournament arc.

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:07 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  12:58 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]the description flying dragon defently fits wyvern which is very cool so I guess it's going to keep the free spinning gimmick , the 2b on spriggan is free spin when you fix it while the end limit break needs to activate for the free spin to work.  so wyvern will just be the ring will always be free spinning .  3 beys free spinning but each work differently.  so I guess their gonna slap 1D .hurricane and atomic metal or reuse orbit metal again or a new driver .  should be fun

I don’t think a chassis gimmick would be the equivalent of a ring gimmick and as you said limit break the end is its own thing so it seems fine to me.

yea that's why is break down the detail of each of the free spinning gimmicks as you know some people would like why their doing a wyvern when we already have 2 beys with the gimmick.  but each of those gimmick literally requires either a manual changing or the gimmick to activate which doesn't activate all the time (at least for me when I battle the end it activate like 30 or 40% of the time) but with wyvern it's always going to be the free spinning which make all 3 beys different at least the end and new wyvern as you mentioned 2b is a chassis an add for spriggan

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:16 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:07 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t think a chassis gimmick would be the equivalent of a ring gimmick and as you said limit break the end is its own thing so it seems fine to me.

yea that's why is break down the detail of each of the free spinning gimmicks as you know some people would like why their doing a wyvern when we already have 2 beys with the gimmick.  but each of those gimmick literally requires either a manual changing or the gimmick to activate which doesn't activate all the time (at least for me when I battle the end it activate like 30 or 40% of the time) but with wyvern it's always going to be the free spinning which make all 3 beys different at least the end and new wyvern as you mentioned 2b is a chassis an add for spriggan

My problem with it is that they’re milking the same gimmick for the third time.

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:18 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:16 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]yea that's why is break down the detail of each of the free spinning gimmicks as you know some people would like why their doing a wyvern when we already have 2 beys with the gimmick.  but each of those gimmick literally requires either a manual changing or the gimmick to activate which doesn't activate all the time (at least for me when I battle the end it activate like 30 or 40% of the time) but with wyvern it's always going to be the free spinning which make all 3 beys different at least the end and new wyvern as you mentioned 2b is a chassis an add for spriggan

My problem with it is that they’re milking the same gimmick for the third time.

World Spriggan’s free spin isn’t really the same thing. Chassis gimmicks are their own thing IMO most of the time apart from Lucifer of course.

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:11 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]That doesn’t happen often though, and they have more important things to do than show a Wyvron when we’re on the final tournament arc.

It doesn't happen often, but the fact that it has happened at all shows some possibility. If there were no instances of it happening in Sparking, then I would agree 100%. And with how many training episodes Burst usually have per season, they could at least have a small training episode where Wakiya trains the brothers (we've seen him train Sisco before in Beyblade Burst God, why not the brothers too).

And if TT is being consistent, Booster Releases have always appeared in the anime so far (except for Single Layer Boosters, but they don't count at all).

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:18 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]My problem with it is that they’re milking the same gimmick for the third time.

World Spriggan’s free spin isn’t really the same thing. Chassis gimmicks are their own thing IMO most of the time apart from Lucifer of course.

They can be on different parts but they’re still using the same gimmick for the third time.

Wyvern? Hold my money I need to see this bey right now!

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:20 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]World Spriggan’s free spin isn’t really the same thing. Chassis gimmicks are their own thing IMO most of the time apart from Lucifer of course.

They can be on different parts but they’re still using the same gimmick for the third time.

True but at least it’s a ring gimmick this time. I’m personally fine with it.

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:18 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:16 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]yea that's why is break down the detail of each of the free spinning gimmicks as you know some people would like why their doing a wyvern when we already have 2 beys with the gimmick.  but each of those gimmick literally requires either a manual changing or the gimmick to activate which doesn't activate all the time (at least for me when I battle the end it activate like 30 or 40% of the time) but with wyvern it's always going to be the free spinning which make all 3 beys different at least the end and new wyvern as you mentioned 2b is a chassis an add for spriggan

My problem with it is that they’re milking the same gimmick for the third time.

a valid point.  to be fair though burst hasn't had a new gimmick after god they only keep reusing or just improve than like how infinite lock is basically another version of burst stoppers even for Gt the use the rubber 3 times their a few new gimmicks but it's very little   .  but still you do have a valid point

Please make wyvern get a new chassis

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:21 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:20 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]They can be on different parts but they’re still using the same gimmick for the third time.

True but at least it’s a ring gimmick this time. I’m personally fine with it.

Well we have that on Lucius already though, all it takes in the wall dropping which is an added bonus for defense purposes.

This cant be possible its like a dream come true

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:22 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:21 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]True but at least it’s a ring gimmick this time. I’m personally fine with it.

Well we have that on Lucius already though, all it takes in the wall dropping which is an added bonus for defense purposes.

It’s not really a sparking ring though. Either way you do have a fair point.

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:20 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:11 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]That doesn’t happen often though, and they have more important things to do than show a Wyvron when we’re on the final tournament arc.

It doesn't happen often, but the fact that it has happened at all shows some possibility. If there were no instances of it happening in Sparking, then I would agree 100%. And with how many training episodes Burst usually have per season, they could at least have a small training episode where Wakiya trains the brothers (we've seen him train Sisco before in Beyblade Burst God, why not the brothers too).

And if TT is being consistent, Booster Releases have always appeared in the anime so far (except for Single Layer Boosters, but they don't count at all).

One incident can be considered isolated and not really a connection to anything else.

(Dec. 20, 2020  1:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]One incident can be considered isolated and not really a connection to anything else.

Honestly, it would just be very strange and out of the ordinary if this was the one main release Booster that was cut from the anime, considering that all of the main Boosters have all appeared in the anime so far (again, excluding Single Layers).